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One remarkable thing to me is that Trump belittled Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz in 2016.  "Little Marco." Linked Ted Cruz's father to Lee Harvey Oswald and by implication, helping to assassinate Kennedy, or some such nonsense.  And yet, these two Republican senators will vote to acquit.

Will be interesting to see what Romney does.

mneeley490 posted:

I have to admit that I didn't watch the impeachment proceedings (too busy at work). I tried keeping up with it on the news. But was there ever any mention of the 2nd article of impeachment, Obstruction of Congress? All I heard about was the Ukraine matter, and now it seems they are wrapping up?

We officially became a monarchy last night; the Republic is dead.

doubled posted:
wineart 2 posted:
csm posted:

The Chiefs play in Kansas (apparently). 

He is truly as he has shown numerous times a moron. 

... and people wonder why he sued to keep his “ academic “ records hidden! 🤣

And yet 1/3 of the country still admire (and probably) relate to the Moron.

And 43% would vote for him again.  Guess they don't understand that the world is pointing and laughing at him, at least when not shuddering in fear at the damage he is doing to his own country and the world.

doubled posted:
wineart 2 posted:
csm posted:

The Chiefs play in Kansas (apparently). 

He is truly as he has shown numerous times a moron. 

... and people wonder why he sued to keep his “ academic “ records hidden! 🤣

And yet 1/3 of the country still admire (and probably) relate to the Moron.

Oh, you thought we were surrounded with 100% good people? Many of them are people who know feel free to spew their racism, bigotry, and homophobia upon the public. Hilary said half his supporters are "deplorables." Yeah, I'd say at least 30 million adults would fit very comfortably into that number.

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bman posted:
doubled posted:
wineart 2 posted:
csm posted:

The Chiefs play in Kansas (apparently). 

He is truly as he has shown numerous times a moron. 

... and people wonder why he sued to keep his “ academic “ records hidden! 🤣

And yet 1/3 of the country still admire (and probably) relate to the Moron.

And 43% would vote for him again.  Guess they don't understand that the world is pointing and laughing at him, at least when not shuddering in fear at the damage he is doing to his own country and the world.

Don’t understand or don’t care?  I’d say the latter. 

"Basket of deplorables" is a phrase from a 2016 presidential election campaign speech delivered by Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton on September 9, 2016, at a campaign fundraising event, which she used to describe half of the supporters of her opponent, Republican nominee Donald J. Trump. The next day she expressed regret for "saying half", while insisting that Trump had deplorably amplified "hateful views and voices".

The Trump campaign repeatedly used the phrase against Clinton during and after the 2016 presidential election. Many Trump supporters adopted the "deplorable" moniker for themselves in reappropriation. Some journalists and political analysts questioned whether this incident played a role in the election's outcome. Clinton admitted in her 2017 book What Happened that it was one of the factors for her loss.

At the second presidential debate in October 2016, after Trump mentioned the speech in a response to James Carter, debate moderator Anderson Cooper asked Clinton: "How can you unite a country if you've written off tens of millions of Americans?"[11] Clinton responded to Cooper's question by saying: "My argument is not with his supporters, it's with him and the hateful, divisive campaign he has

winetarelli posted:
The Old Man posted:
flwino posted:

At least Iowa has taken the award for poor election counts from Palm Beach County. 

Hopefully something good will come out of this and it will end its first in the nation roll.

Agreed. 

The Democratic Party is a joke and all this only helps the orange pile of dung and his narrative. Grrrrr! 

wineart 2 posted:
winetarelli posted:
The Old Man posted:
flwino posted:

At least Iowa has taken the award for poor election counts from Palm Beach County. 

Hopefully something good will come out of this and it will end its first in the nation roll.

Agreed. 

The Democratic Party is a joke and all this only helps the orange pile of dung and his narrative. Grrrrr! 

Yep. In 2008 I liked being a Democrat. The rest of my life I’ve hated it. And especially now; between the “woke” cultural far Left, the populism, and the organizational dumbfuckery I want to ram my head against the wall nightly... But despite all of that, it easily beats all of the alternatives. 

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The Old Man posted:
flwino posted:

At least Iowa has taken the award for poor election counts from Palm Beach County. 

Hopefully something good will come out of this and it will end its first in the nation roll.

Like Iowa and NH have less than 1% of the population, mostly all white, few Hispanics, and they dictate who I can vote for 3 months later.  Sick!

Also what ever happened to a secret election?  These look like a social media event.

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flwino posted:
The Old Man posted:
flwino posted:

At least Iowa has taken the award for poor election counts from Palm Beach County. 

Hopefully something good will come out of this and it will end its first in the nation roll.

Like Iowa and NH have less than 1% of the population, mostly all white, few Hispanics, and they dictate who I can vote for 3 months later.  Sick!

Also what ever happened to a secret election, these look like a social media event.

99% white... sounds like Trump and his policy advisors and admin. Old fat white men.🤣

flwino posted:
The Old Man posted:
flwino posted:

At least Iowa has taken the award for poor election counts from Palm Beach County. 

Hopefully something good will come out of this and it will end its first in the nation roll.

Like Iowa and NH have less than 1% of the population, mostly all white, few Hispanics, and they dictate who I can vote for 3 months later.  Sick!

I don't understand it either.  It should be by electoral votes.  

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