napacat posted:
Get over it...Trump will win again.  

Jesus... you keep reeling me in.   

"Get over it...Trump will win again."

I will look forward to finding this post on this day, a year from now.  I hope you'll be able to "get over it." We are both Americans, after all.

By the way, was your "get over it," comment intentional?  Interesting choice of words, given their recent usage in defending trump's criminality.

If you'd like to post a short and cogent defense of the EC in today's America, I'll break my promise of disengagement and will gladly respond.  Bring your best, though.  I've given this a bit of thought.

One man, one woman, one redneck, one Communist, one Muslim, one atheist...

ONE VOTE.  Count 'em up.  Call it.  Done.

PH

New polls out — particularly from NY Times / Siena.  Warren better not be the nominee. We have to beat Trump. Why are we trying to make the election about our candidate and not a referendum on Trump?  I hate being a Democrat — they are so, SO, bad at winning. And we need to win this one. 

Stop embarrassing yourself! You're just making it worse.

"I stated 'odd how this quid pro quo was ok' (Biden)."

Your misquoting of yourself is very telling. Remember when presidential sycophant Kevin McCarthy was on TV a month ago and was read this quote by the racist-in-chief? Here's how that went:

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it."

Kev, all set to defend the bigoted one said that the interviewer "added a word." Can you guess what that word was bright boy? THOUGH. (The same word you left out of your own quote.) He actually was accusing the interviewer of adding that damning word. If you don't understand the meaning of that word I'm sure there's some adult continuation school you can attend up there for remedial English.

I'm assuming Fox State News (hereafter FSN) never showed that particular clip of McCarthy. How uninformed you are. I continue to marvel at how bad you are at debating, or even just plain writing clear thoughts.

purplehaze posted:
napacat posted:
Get over it...Trump will win again.  

Jesus... you keep reeling me in.   

"Get over it...Trump will win again."

I will look forward to finding this post on this day, a year from now.  I hope you'll be able to "get over it." We are both Americans, after all...

 

Oh PH: As I mentioned the other day I just watched Chinatown for the 20th time. It was my friend's second viewing. At the end he said the ending was so bleak. And then I spoke these awful, but true words, "Sometimes the bad guys win." I think of how close we could have come to losing WWII, but Hitler in his hate, wound up causing the very scientists he needed to develop the A-bomb to leave the country. There could be a South USA and a North USA except perhaps for a college teacher who came up with a maneuver to sweep down Little Round Top at Gettysburg. It's just little things that can tip the balance one way or another.

I also have very little faith in the American public in general, so I'm just holding my breathe and not making any predictions. And if you talk to any of the pussy-grabber-in-chief's defenders, or listen to the mindless ranting of a Nappie, you know how twisted so many of them are.

flwino posted:
The Old Man posted:
flwino posted:

Great day in Kentucky and Virginia

Great day for America.

Mississippi did not go blue

Is that considered a surprise? I'll more than take what we got.

2018, bad year for Trumpublicans. 2019 another bad year. One more to go.

Heard about the outcome in VA that’s particularly delicious?  Remember Juli Briskman, the bicyclist who was fired from her job after being photographed flipping the bird at Putin’s Bitch’s motorcade leaving his golf club in Sterling, VA?  She won the election yesterday for a seat on the county board of supervisors.  That county includes the very golf club where she was photographed outside giving her version of “Putin’s Bitch is #1”.  Oh, and she defeated the incumbent Republican.  #MAGA

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/05...ffice-win/index.html

ProSys posted:

Heard about the outcome in VA that’s particularly delicious?  

Bravo to my VA neighbors.  High voter turnout had a lot to do with the state going blue in both houses to supplement the Democratic governor.  A good lesson as we head into 2020.

PH

purplehaze posted:
ProSys posted:

Heard about the outcome in VA that’s particularly delicious?  

Bravo to my VA neighbors.  High voter turnout had a lot to do with the state going blue in both houses to supplement the Democratic governor.  A good lesson as we head into 2020.

PH

As did the Courts' throwing out of the Republican racial gerrymandering to disenfranchise minority voters

arsenal4ever posted:

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring, Hope the new members are not of the same ilk, though they are from the same party.

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring,  

All flawed.  Absolutely no argument.  But,  they're actually showing up to work every day and are all subject to legal and/or civil action if they've broken laws or committed torts.  

So if you really want to play, "What about" , let's try:

Trump, McConnell and Graham. 

I wonder who will come out better in the history books.

Looking forward to public hearings next week.  Cheers!

PH

 

purplehaze posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring, Hope the new members are not of the same ilk, though they are from the same party.

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring,  

All flawed.  Absolutely no argument.  But,  they're actually showing up to work every day and are all subject to legal and/or civil action if they've broken laws or committed torts.  

So if you really want to play, "What about" , let's try:

Trump, McConnell and Graham. 

I wonder who will come out better in the history books.

Looking forward to public hearings next week.  Cheers!

PH

 

That's easy...obviously Trump, McConnell and Graham will fare better

 

napacat posted:
purplehaze posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring, Hope the new members are not of the same ilk, though they are from the same party.

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring,  

All flawed.  Absolutely no argument.  But,  they're actually showing up to work every day and are all subject to legal and/or civil action if they've broken laws or committed torts.  

So if you really want to play, "What about" , let's try:

Trump, McConnell and Graham. 

I wonder who will come out better in the history books.

Looking forward to public hearings next week.  Cheers!

PH

 

That's easy...obviously Trump, McConnell and Graham will fare better

 

Guess you can't read.  question was which of the three will come out better?

napacat posted:
purplehaze posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring, Hope the new members are not of the same ilk, though they are from the same party.

Northam, Fairfax, and Herring,  

All flawed.  Absolutely no argument.  But,  they're actually showing up to work every day and are all subject to legal and/or civil action if they've broken laws or committed torts.  

So if you really want to play, "What about" , let's try:

Trump, McConnell and Graham. 

I wonder who will come out better in the history books.

Looking forward to public hearings next week.  Cheers!

PH

 

That's easy...obviously Trump, McConnell and Graham will fare better

 

Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo. An anti-democratic liar and bigot, his enabler, and a sycophant. I don't think so.

The reason why I mentioned Northam and his two buddies is to remind you that 6 months ago they were hot news and all were asked to resign by Dems because of blackface or sex assault issues. Evidently the voters had forgotten when they turned over the VA house to more Dems, as had the national media. Their stories died very quickly. 'Course, now they are qualified to be the next justice of SCOTUS.

arsenal4ever posted:

The reason why I mentioned Northam and his two buddies is to remind you that 6 months ago they were hot news and all were asked to resign by Dems because of blackface or sex assault issues. Evidently the voters had forgotten when they turned over the VA house to more Dems, as had the national media. Their stories died very quickly. 'Course, now they are qualified to be the next justice of SCOTUS.

What they did is certainly wrong, but that's the best you've got? Here's what I have: A president who tried to blackmail a foreign country into helping him win an America election. As for the next justice, do you have a citation for that or are you, like the demented president, just making things up?

arsenal4ever posted:

The reason why I mentioned Northam and his two buddies is to remind you that 6 months ago they were hot news and all were asked to resign by Dems because of blackface or sex assault issues. Evidently the voters had forgotten when they turned over the VA house to more Dems, as had the national media. Their stories died very quickly. 'Course, now they are qualified to be the next justice of SCOTUS.

They did not forget. They are hypocrites and the media that goes along with them.  Think a Republican could survive a blackface scandal?  Think the media would let it go at all.  And a flat out rape by the Lt Gov...not likely.

Good luck with this warped bunch around here Arsenal.  You, trying to inject a modicum of common sense will be lost here.  

napacat posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

The reason why I mentioned Northam and his two buddies is to remind you that 6 months ago they were hot news and all were asked to resign by Dems because of blackface or sex assault issues. Evidently the voters had forgotten when they turned over the VA house to more Dems, as had the national media. Their stories died very quickly. 'Course, now they are qualified to be the next justice of SCOTUS.

They did not forget. They are hypocrites and the media that goes along with them.  Think a Republican could survive a blackface scandal?  Think the media would let it go at all.  And a flat out rape by the Lt Gov...not likely.

Good luck with this warped bunch around here Arsenal.  You, trying to inject a modicum of common sense will be lost here.  

Well, a Republican survived

-sexual assault accusations by over a dozen women

-a secret payoff to a porn star who he boinked while his wife was pregnant with his child

-another secret payoff to a former Playboy Playmate with whom he had a long-standing affair

-incitement to violence at several political rallies

-boasting about grabbing women by their genitals and forcing kisses on them

-not paying contractors

-going bankrupt more than once

-lying an average of a dozen times a day over the past three years

-subverting the constitution for his personal benefit

 

Don't recall that guy's name though - can anyone remind me?

napacat posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

The reason why I mentioned Northam and his two buddies is to remind you that 6 months ago they were hot news and all were asked to resign by Dems because of blackface or sex assault issues. Evidently the voters had forgotten when they turned over the VA house to more Dems, as had the national media. Their stories died very quickly. 'Course, now they are qualified to be the next justice of SCOTUS.

They did not forget. They are hypocrites and the media that goes along with them.  Think a Republican could survive a blackface scandal?  Think the media would let it go at all.  And a flat out rape by the Lt Gov...not likely.

Good luck with this warped bunch around here Arsenal.  You, trying to inject a modicum of common sense will be lost here.  

Waa, waa. Napa and the baby in chief.

bman posted:
napacat posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

The reason why I mentioned Northam and his two buddies is to remind you that 6 months ago they were hot news and all were asked to resign by Dems because of blackface or sex assault issues. Evidently the voters had forgotten when they turned over the VA house to more Dems, as had the national media. Their stories died very quickly. 'Course, now they are qualified to be the next justice of SCOTUS.

They did not forget. They are hypocrites and the media that goes along with them.  Think a Republican could survive a blackface scandal?  Think the media would let it go at all.  And a flat out rape by the Lt Gov...not likely.

Good luck with this warped bunch around here Arsenal.  You, trying to inject a modicum of common sense will be lost here.  

Well, a Republican survived

-sexual assault accusations by over a dozen women

-a secret payoff to a porn star who he boinked while his wife was pregnant with his child

-another secret payoff to a former Playboy Playmate with whom he had a long-standing affair

-incitement to violence at several political rallies

-boasting about grabbing women by their genitals and forcing kisses on them

-not paying contractors

-going bankrupt more than once

-lying an average of a dozen times a day over the past three years

-subverting the constitution for his personal benefit

 

Don't recall that guy's name though - can anyone remind me?

Well played.

But, but Hillary. 

The Old Man posted:
bman posted:
napacat posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

The reason why I mentioned Northam and his two buddies is to remind you that 6 months ago they were hot news and all were asked to resign by Dems because of blackface or sex assault issues. Evidently the voters had forgotten when they turned over the VA house to more Dems, as had the national media. Their stories died very quickly. 'Course, now they are qualified to be the next justice of SCOTUS.

They did not forget. They are hypocrites and the media that goes along with them.  Think a Republican could survive a blackface scandal?  Think the media would let it go at all.  And a flat out rape by the Lt Gov...not likely.

Good luck with this warped bunch around here Arsenal.  You, trying to inject a modicum of common sense will be lost here.  

Well, a Republican survived

-sexual assault accusations by over a dozen women

-a secret payoff to a porn star who he boinked while his wife was pregnant with his child

-another secret payoff to a former Playboy Playmate with whom he had a long-standing affair

-incitement to violence at several political rallies

-boasting about grabbing women by their genitals and forcing kisses on them

-not paying contractors

-going bankrupt more than once

-lying an average of a dozen times a day over the past three years

-subverting the constitution for his personal benefit

 

Don't recall that guy's name though - can anyone remind me?

Well played.

But, but Hillary. 

That's not well played at all.  It is avoiding the double standard.  The media would have credibility if they were consistent.  If they only go after Republicans and not their counterpart for the same behavior, then that is incredibly hypocritical. 

Listen tot he tape of Amy Robach...she had Clinton and Prince Andrew mailed in the Epstein scandal (most likely) and ABC squashed it.  The media is a bunch of clowns just like the Democrats in Washington...and it is becoming quite apparent.

I never said Trump was perfect (he is a complete narcissist, makes some cringe worthy statements at times (and some damn funny ones as well) ...compared to the Democratic candidate in 16, I would vote form Trump ten out of ten times. And with the current bunch of democrats, I'm voting for him again.  I don't think I could ever vote for a democrat, as I just do not believe in their ideology.

Seems like Bill Gates, Jamie Dimon and others have sounded the warning on Pocahontas.  

"I never said Trump was perfect..."

It is any surprise that such a terrible debater as yourself would throw out a strawman argument? Nope, he's not perfect, nobody is, but he is a racist, a bigot and a sexist. 

"...have sounded the warning on Pocahontas."

Did you think before gleefully typing this? It is any surprise that a person who supports a bigot stoops to using a bigoted slur? I've said that if you support a bigot and a racist then you are too, and then you go and prove my point.

I thought you weren't going to respond to me anymore? I, and most everyone else here, runs circles around your muddled thinking. As I've said before, you just keep embarrassing yourself.

The Old Man posted:

"I never said Trump was perfect..."

It is any surprise that such a terrible debater as yourself would throw out a strawman argument? Nope, he's not perfect, nobody is, but he is a racist, a bigot and a sexist. 

"...have sounded the warning on Pocahontas."

Did you think before gleefully typing this? It is any surprise that a person who supports a bigot stoops to using a bigoted slur? I've said that if you support a bigot and a racist then you are too, and then you go and prove my point.

I thought you weren't going to respond to me anymore? I, and most everyone else here, runs circles around your muddled thinking. As I've said before, you just keep embarrassing yourself.

Can't help it...that' right old man...just avoid the entire context of the post and call someone a racist, bigot...whatever.  It's all the left does is try and portray a republican as a racist.  Iy's tired and old.  

Avoid the real context of the candidate promoting herself as a minority and the real "scandal" is someone giving her a very funny nickname (and it is very funny).

Avoid the entire ABC shelving of the Epstein story.  Avoid it all and keep calling us racists.  Bravo...you will still be here complaining during the next Trump term.  And possibly one more after that!!

napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:

"I never said Trump was perfect..."

It is any surprise that such a terrible debater as yourself would throw out a strawman argument? Nope, he's not perfect, nobody is, but he is a racist, a bigot and a sexist. 

"...have sounded the warning on Pocahontas."

Did you think before gleefully typing this? It is any surprise that a person who supports a bigot stoops to using a bigoted slur? I've said that if you support a bigot and a racist then you are too, and then you go and prove my point.

I thought you weren't going to respond to me anymore? I, and most everyone else here, runs circles around your muddled thinking. As I've said before, you just keep embarrassing yourself.

Can't help it...that' right old man...just avoid the entire context of the post and call someone a racist, bigot...whatever.  It's all the left does is try and portray a republican as a racist.  Iy's tired and old.  

Avoid the real context of the candidate promoting herself as a minority and the real "scandal" is someone giving her a very funny nickname (and it is very funny).

Avoid the entire ABC shelving of the Epstein story.  Avoid it all and keep calling us racists.  Bravo...you will still be here complaining during the next Trump term.  And possibly one more after that!!

The "point of your post." Pathetic. Not really hard to call someone a bigot and racist who says, "Mexico is not sending their best (whatever that means) they're sending murderers, drug dealers, rapists and some I'm sure are good people." "Where's my African-American?" "Some fine people on both sides." Someone who says the Central Park Five are still guilty after they were exonerated. And someone who went on a quest for the first black American president's birth certificate. I don't have time to list another 10 to 20 examples.

"Avoid the real context of the candidate promoting herself as a minority and the real 'scandal' is someone giving her a very funny nickname (and it is very funny)."

Well, that kind of says it all, thanks for the proof of your bigotry again. It is not acceptable to call Native Americans, or even people with minuscule amounts of Native American blood, "Pocahontas." Didn't your mother teach you anything?

Terrible debater, muddled  thinker and a self-confessed bigot. Do your friends find you intelligent or do they laugh behind your back?

 

 

 

napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:

"I never said Trump was perfect..."

It is any surprise that such a terrible debater as yourself would throw out a strawman argument? Nope, he's not perfect, nobody is, but he is a racist, a bigot and a sexist. 

"...have sounded the warning on Pocahontas."

Did you think before gleefully typing this? It is any surprise that a person who supports a bigot stoops to using a bigoted slur? I've said that if you support a bigot and a racist then you are too, and then you go and prove my point.

I thought you weren't going to respond to me anymore? I, and most everyone else here, runs circles around your muddled thinking. As I've said before, you just keep embarrassing yourself.

Can't help it...that' right old man...just avoid the entire context of the post and call someone a racist, bigot...whatever.  It's all the left does is try and portray a republican as a racist.  Iy's tired and old.  

Avoid the real context of the candidate promoting herself as a minority and the real "scandal" is someone giving her a very funny nickname (and it is very funny).

Avoid the entire ABC shelving of the Epstein story.  Avoid it all and keep calling us racists.  Bravo...you will still be here complaining during the next Trump term.  And possibly one more after that!!

You may want to slow down with all of the Epstein talk, since your boy 45 was such good pals with him and is another known predator.  

I find it amusing that the supporters of the current regime keep deflecting.  The more liberal and centrist posters here seem to be mainly focused (at least lately) on tRump's phone call, and the constitutional fallout from this misbehavior.

In response, we're hearing comments about the VA Governor and other state level pols in Virginia, the Bidens, Hillary, Epstein, Warren, the identity of the whistleblower and more.  

To the 3 more vocal right wing posters who participate here (and any lurker who feels like piping up) please tell us:

Was it acceptable for the President of the United States to threaten to withhold $400M in military assistance from an ally who is currently under military assault by our chief geo-political rival unless this ally carried out an investigation into his (at the time) primary political rival?  Was it acceptable for Giuliani and Sondland, neither of who have either diplomatic credentials or experience in these matters to carry out a shadow foreign policy, bypassing the professionals already in place representing OUR interests in Ukraine?

Even your elected Reps and Senators are running like spooked deer when confronted by questions about this.  Why?  Why attack process?  Let's talk substance.  I'm genuinely curious if you all believe that tRump acted appropriately or if you're just supporting him and his behavior because you are so strongly opposed to the Democrats' current activities.

PH

napacat posted:
Bravo...you will still be here complaining during the next Trump term.  And possibly one more after that!!

Do you own a copy of the U.S. Constitution?  If so, please review the 22nd Amendment and justify this comment, please.  If you don't own one, I have a few extra pocket Constitutions and would be glad to forward you one.  Or, as always, Google is your friend...

Comments like yours carry an implicit threat of circumvention of our laws and Constitution. It troubles me to hear comments like this, and does nothing to support your arguments here.

PH

The Old Man posted:
napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:

"I never said Trump was perfect..."

It is any surprise that such a terrible debater as yourself would throw out a strawman argument? Nope, he's not perfect, nobody is, but he is a racist, a bigot and a sexist. 

"...have sounded the warning on Pocahontas."

Did you think before gleefully typing this? It is any surprise that a person who supports a bigot stoops to using a bigoted slur? I've said that if you support a bigot and a racist then you are too, and then you go and prove my point.

I thought you weren't going to respond to me anymore? I, and most everyone else here, runs circles around your muddled thinking. As I've said before, you just keep embarrassing yourself.

Can't help it...that' right old man...just avoid the entire context of the post and call someone a racist, bigot...whatever.  It's all the left does is try and portray a republican as a racist.  Iy's tired and old.  

Avoid the real context of the candidate promoting herself as a minority and the real "scandal" is someone giving her a very funny nickname (and it is very funny).

Avoid the entire ABC shelving of the Epstein story.  Avoid it all and keep calling us racists.  Bravo...you will still be here complaining during the next Trump term.  And possibly one more after that!!

The "point of your post." Pathetic. Not really hard to call someone a bigot and racist who says, "Mexico is not sending their best (whatever that means) they're sending murderers, drug dealers, rapists and some I'm sure are good people." "Where's my African-American?" "Some fine people on both sides." Someone who says the Central Park Five are still guilty after they were exonerated. And someone who went on a quest for the first black American president's birth certificate. I don't have time to list another 10 to 20 examples.

"Avoid the real context of the candidate promoting herself as a minority and the real 'scandal' is someone giving her a very funny nickname (and it is very funny)."

Well, that kind of says it all, thanks for the proof of your bigotry again. It is not acceptable to call Native Americans, or even people with minuscule amounts of Native American blood, "Pocahontas." Didn't your mother teach you anything?

Terrible debater, muddled  thinker and a self-confessed bigot. Do your friends find you intelligent or do they laugh behind your back?

 

 

 

Let's take this one by one for all of you morons who cannot get any nuance.  

"Mexico is not sending (sending not the correct word)  their best":  That's correct.  Border patrol will tell you there are rapists, murderers, criminals (other than illegal crossings) drug dealers and probably some good family people coming.  What is wrong with that statement?

"Where's my  African American":  Please not a bad statement in the context he meant it.  Try not to be so literal...but your hatred will not allow it.  

No interest in Obama's birth certificate...thought it was stupid so will not comment.

"Well, that kind of says it all, thanks for the proof of your bigotry again. It is not acceptable to call Native Americans, or even people with minuscule amounts of Native American blood, "Pocahontas." Didn't your mother teach you anything?" 

This statement proves you are an idiot.  As Warren is not a Native American.  Stop being part of the always offended crowd.  You must be zero fun to be around.

My friends would and do find your way of thinking non-nonsensical and overly what is wrong with the U.S. 

You also probably think Bruce Jenner is a woman.  

purplehaze posted:
napacat posted:
Bravo...you will still be here complaining during the next Trump term.  And possibly one more after that!!

Do you own a copy of the U.S. Constitution?  If so, please review the 22nd Amendment and justify this comment, please.  If you don't own one, I have a few extra pocket Constitutions and would be glad to forward you one.  Or, as always, Google is your friend...

Comments like yours carry an implicit threat of circumvention of our laws and Constitution. It troubles me to hear comments like this, and does nothing to support your arguments here.

PH

Oh God...another one who does not get any nuance or humor.  It's a full time job putting up with you idiots.  

napacat posted:

Oh God...another one who does not get any nuance or humor.  It's a full time job putting up with you idiots.  

There was nothing either nuanced or humorous about that post, Cat.  But if you consider yourself so nuanced and humorous, perhaps you could get a booking on a conservative comedy channel.  Oh... yeah, I don't think there are any.  Wonder why?

And... calling people idiots and morons is no way to influence people.  Typically, this is done with logic and facts.  Still waiting for your treatise on the Electoral College, and your answer to my question about the phone call.  

PH

Napacat whether or not you have a homosexual bone in your body I'm not going to call you a f@g. In much the same way I'm not going to call bman a n!gger, Purplehaze a retard, or TheOldMan a wop. It doesn't really matter if one is black (he happens not to be), one is autistic or otherwise mentally challenged (he certainly isn't) and one is Italian (I don't believe he is). I just don't use those words for anyone. In my head or out of my mouth or with my fingers on a keyboard. 

"Pocahontas" is no less a slur than any of those other ones I typed above (which you hopefully cringed while reading). It has no bearing on her ancestry, it's a slur.  

All of us here need to be better than that, you included. 

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