flwino posted:

Mitch the Witch.  The Senate [IMHO] should be forced to take up every bill passed be the House.  That is a democracy.   Time for him to retire!

Mitch is fantastic...great move on blocking Garland.  Democrats would have done the exact same thing if they were in power.  What a great stance that paid off beautifully.  

That said he has been there too long .  Why should they...if the house sends nonsense why?  

I have tried to avoid responding to your inanity directly over the past many months, but I just can't let this last post stand unaddressed.  

1) "Mitch is fantastic...  That said he has been there too long." 

What the hell are you saying?  If he's fantastic, he should stick around as long as his "fantastic-ness" continues.  And in case you're not aware, his current approval rating among registered voters in Kentucky is 33%.  Even his own constituents don't think he's fantastic. History will ultimately judge his contributions to our nation, and history will not be kind.  

2) "Why should they...if the house sends nonsense why?"

What the hell does this mean?  This sentence, even given its absolutely atrocious construction makes absolutely no sense.  If English is not your first language, I'll give you a gentle pass, but otherwise, you write like a lazy 4th grader.  A step up from your president, though.  I'll give you that much.

Seriously, napacat.  You just might want to refrain from posting when you've been drinking.  Or just refrain from posting, period.  

PH

purplehaze posted:

I have tried to avoid responding to your inanity directly over the past many months, but I just can't let this last post stand unaddressed.  

1) "Mitch is fantastic...  That said he has been there too long." 

What the hell are you saying?  If he's fantastic, he should stick around as long as his "fantastic-ness" continues.  And in case you're not aware, his current approval rating among registered voters in Kentucky is 33%.  Even his own constituents don't think he's fantastic. History will ultimately judge his contributions to our nation, and history will not be kind.  

2) "Why should they...if the house sends nonsense why?"

What the hell does this mean?  This sentence, even given its absolutely atrocious construction makes absolutely no sense.  If English is not your first language, I'll give you a gentle pass, but otherwise, you write like a lazy 4th grader.  A step up from your president, though.  I'll give you that much.

Seriously, napacat.  You just might want to refrain from posting when you've been drinking.  Or just refrain from posting, period.  

PH

As I've said; a terrible debater with unclear thoughts and pointless points. One shouldn't even take the time to respond to such inane drivel, but I know sometimes it's hard not to.

The Old Man posted:
As I've said; a terrible debater with unclear thoughts and pointless points. One shouldn't even take the time to respond to such inane drivel, but I know sometimes it's hard not to.

Hmm... unclear thoughts and pointless points.  Sounds eerily familiar, TOM.  Wonder who his inspiration might be?  I quit responding to him a long while ago because of the lack of logic and clarity.  I wonder if he even drinks wine anymore?  I'm sure there are other places where he can babble.

PH

billhike posted:

At least the swamp got a little more drained today...

Try to keep up with how many in his administration have resigned (or been indicted); it's truly breathtaking. I think right now there's about seven positions filled with "acting" administrators. Such chaos and ineptitude.

The Old Man posted:
billhike posted:

At least the swamp got a little more drained today...

Try to keep up with how many in his administration have resigned (or been indicted); it's truly breathtaking. I think right now there's about seven positions filled with "acting" administrators. Such chaos and ineptitude.

Putin’s poodle entire administration has been nothing more than a cesspool. The lack of proper vetting and protocol is not surprising with a conman in the White House, not to mention the amount of people with security clearances despite our intelligence community advising against such. 

billhike posted:

But the stock market!

An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to go before equaling Obama’s performance.

Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%.  Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%. 

But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important, 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years. 

 

wineart 2 posted:
billhike posted:

But the stock market!

An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to get to equal Obama. 

Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%.  Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%. 

But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years. 

 

But her emails!

Benghazi!!

Whitewater!!!

 

 

bman posted:
wineart 2 posted:
billhike posted:

But the stock market!

An incredible 10 year run for sure. The conman has a long way to get to equal Obama. 

Facts; Under Obama, S&P 500 grew by 56.4%, Dow up 50.6% and the Nasdaq up 92.9%.  Under the conman, S&P 500 up 21.4%, Dow up 25.2% and Nasdaq up 34.2%. 

But give Putin’s poodle his credit, he is setting records every quarter in debt and has grown our national debt to over $22 trillion and equally important 4.4% of GDP - far higher than any average over the past 50 years. 

 

But her emails!

Benghazi!!

Whitewater!!!

 

 

... and talking about the inept president and his band of fools; Mnuchin now has issued a warning that America is running out of cash far sooner than expected. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office says the deficit jumped 23.1% since the tax cuts have taken effect. This, plus the Republicans massive spending package will produce a record trillion dollar deficit compared to the $779 billion from a year ago per the CBO. 

Conservative fiscal hawks my ass!!!  This administration is nothing short of a kangaroo court. 

purplehaze posted:

An awful president, and an awful human (DNA test pending to confirm status, along with his promised tax returns and missing school records)  

Anyone who still supports him is either profoundly ignorant or knowledgeably awful to boot.  A pox on them all.

PH

Anyone who still supports him is either profoundly ignorant AND knowledgeably awful to boot.  A pox on them all.

Still love the Trump admin.  Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

You guys are clowns!  They should be prosecuted or removed from office!  

PH...what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...too difficult of a thought process to follow? 

As I said, terrible debater.  "Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! "

No, you should be on the side that calls out a man/baby president who's a racist, a bigot, and sexist, a know-nothing and a demagogue.

And lay off the teenage use of exclamation marks! I suggest reading The Elements of Style by Strunk and White before you post again and embarrass yourself.

napacat posted:

Still love the Trump admin.  Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

You guys are clowns!  They should be prosecuted or removed from office!  

PH...what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...too difficult of a thought process to follow? 

Still love the Trump admin.

Which Trump administration, specifically, do you love? The one he started with, or the one with almost 20 "acting" key staffers currently  in:  DOD, Labor, Homeland Security, WH Chief of Staff, Small Business Administration, UN Ambassador, Office of Management and Budget, FAA, OSHA, FDA, CFCP, FEMA, EEOC, ICE, USCIS and CBP?  trump hasn't drained the swamp.  He's added to it with people who are likely un-confirmable, and who he can fire when they irritate him.  He can then say, "I hardly knew them," and move on to the next third rate hack who's willing to go to work for this inept dumpster fire of an administration.

It appears that the only consistent parties to this abomination of a presidency are Trump and Pence.  So, please tell me, what do you love about Trump, the pussy grabbing serial cheater, porn star payoff expert, multiple bankrupt, dictator ass-kissing, fiscally irresponsible, racist, bumbling and inept buffoon?  Or his feckless VP?  Specifics, please.

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

You guys are clowns!  They should be prosecuted or removed from office!  

Another brilliantly constructed paragraph.  Exactly who are "you guys?"  And who should be prosecuted or removed from office, and under either what criminal or civil basis?  Specifics, please.

what’s wrong with liking Mitch and also wanting term limits...

If you'd actually made a cogent argument for term limits, I'd consider it.  Why not try that, with some logical thoughts?  What do you like about McConnell? His ability to obstruct meaningful legislation?  His inability to cross the aisle and build consensus with the minority party?  Specifics, please.  I know that you trumpistas love that he blocked Garland's nomination.  Please explain how the turtle's purported "election year" reasoning was reversed when he was asked what he'd do if there was a SC nomination now?  Specifics, please.  And no, owning the "libs," isn't a cogent argument.  Sorry.

..too difficult of a thought process to follow? 

When in doubt, in true FauxNews fashion, resort to ad hominem attacks.  I can assure you, there is nothing that you post here that is difficult for any of us to process.  Quite the opposite.  You're a walking, talking product of the Breitbart/Infowars/FauxNews echo-chamber.  If you weren't representative of 30% my beloved country, you'd be laughable.

PH

 

purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

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bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

  I'm not into soccer, so you'll never guess what I do--I don't read those threads. In addition I'm really not into getting arguments anymore but Napa, and his ilk, really need to be called out for their mindless support of this sickening threat to democracy.

The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

Gentlemen, clearly English is not the empty suits first language and he only has a double digit IQ. Obviously Putin’s poodle Twitter vocabulary is his level of understanding. Period.

When facts are stated, he isn’t capable of addressing them nor is he interested in facts to begin with. Logic, facts, critical thinking and the nuance of debate are clearly beyond his mental gymnastic ability. 

One of the early questions posed to the empty suit was, “ what does MAGA mean?”  Is that the time women couldn’t vote? Is that a time when only white men were in power? Is that a time when the thinking was a catholic couldn’t be president? Was it a time when a woman could be at the very top of her law class yet not be offered a position at a world class law firm? Perhaps it was when people of color couldn’t eat, drink or even stay where white people did such. Was it a time when Jewish people couldn’t belong to the same country clubs? Was it a time when anyone with a different sexual preference could be put in jail, refused employment, employment benefits and mistreated without consequence? Perhaps it means it was a time that it was okay for your ancestors to immigrate to the United States because they looked like the people in power. Just exactly which decades does the term refer to was a question that the empty suit never answered. 

I am admitting I’m not proofreading my post as Wimbledon has already started without me. 🙃

bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

winoca posted:
bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall.  And he unfriended me.  It did make me sad.

bman posted:
winoca posted:
bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall.  And he unfriended me.  It did make me sad.

Did said person ever tell American citizens elected by their constituents and serving in a coequal branch of government to go back to where they are from due to being people of color? 🙃 Our white supremacist president must be reading the pamphlets from his backers. 

Also, your friend couldn’t have been Jewish and supporting racist comments like came out of Putin’s poodle today, right? 😂

wineart 2 posted:
bman posted:
winoca posted:
bman posted:

We used to have a Madder than Hell forum but is was replaced with this thread, which seems to serve that purpose well. If it bothers you, why not just ignore it? 

I do for the most part. I've been reading this forum for a couple of years and I don't think anyone who has been here long enough would disagree that some people have parted at least "online" friendships (probably offline ones as well) because of political differences here. That's pretty sad.

I lost a Trump-loving/Obama-hating friend I met at a few offlines over the years but only after I repeatedly removed racist comments about the latter and personal attacks against me that he'd posted on my Facebook wall.  And he unfriended me.  It did make me sad.

Did said person ever tell American citizens elected by their constituents and serving in a coequal branch of government to go back to where they are from due to being people of color? 🙃 Our white supremacist president must be reading the pamphlets from his backers. 

Also, your friend couldn’t have been Jewish and supporting racist comments like came out of Putin’s poodle today, right? 😂

Re your last comment, as it happens....

The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

bman posted:
napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

You thought he understood? Stop it.😂

wineart 2 posted:
bman posted:
napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

You thought he understood? Stop it.😂

Just being a friendly Canadian, is all!  

PH

purplehaze posted:
wineart 2 posted:
bman posted:
napacat posted:
 

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish.  

Cheers and I’ll give up on discussing this. Prefer to be much more positive. 

Refugee claimants are not illegals.  We discussed this some time ago.  I thought you understood.

You thought he understood? Stop it.😂

Just being a friendly Canadian, is all!  

PH

I gotta be me......

napacat posted:
The Old Man posted:
purplehaze posted:

Should I be on the side of Clinton and Pelosi advising ILLEGALS how to break the law further and avoid ICE! 

First of all, apparently this was a question.  Buy a question mark, Einstein.  And then, if you can manage it, please give me specifics on what the fuck Clinton has to do with anything, and how either "Clinton" (not sure which one you're ranting about) or Pelosi are advising anyone how to break the law or avoid ICE.  Specifics, please.

Pelosi and Clinton did NOT give advice on how to break the law, but how to get the rights our laws give all people in the US, whether here legally or illegally. Napa apparently thinks that giving people information on legal options open to them is telling them how to break the law. Now where could Napa had got the idea it was advice on how to break our laws? If you answered State Media Fox "News", you'd certainly be right. Only the brain dead Trumpanzies swallow the horse manure that the president's sycophants make up for them daily.

You all are hopeless.  You would rather the former Secretary of State and current Speaker of the House advise ILLEGALS on how to avoid being deported.  Sick and twisted thought process.  But carry on...completely on the incorrect side of common sense.  

Absolutely no point in trying to write a lengthy response to any of this...you all are dug in and foolish. 

You repeat a lie told by your "news" source that said Clinton and Pelosi were advising illegal aliens on how to BREAK THE LAW. You said it. I then provided a link to prove, proof you could easily have found out yourself if you didn't just watch State Run media, that this wasn't true and how do you respond? By deflecting or using strawmen; your oft used response-when-you're-wrong method. Who exactly has a twisted thought process?

As for you writing a lengthy response I think most here would agree you can't write a cogent argument no matter what the length.

And then there's yesterday's piece of filth by the bigot in chief:

Trump to Democratic congresswomen: ‘Go back’ to where they came from. They’re Americans.

Please explain, unless you're a racist or bigot yourself, what makes you speak so highly of this malignancy in the White House? From all your attempts to defend His Sickness it does appear, for you, indeed it's all about the Benjamins.

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