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Pres. Trump is confused about where his father was born?  Recently claimed his father was born in Germany, but in the Art of the Deal, he says his father was born in New Jersey, and the truth is that his father was born in New York.  No wonder he was confused about where Pres. Obama was born.  If he can't recall the location of his own father's birth, it's not surprising that he'd screw up on the location of the birth of someone else.

He is seriously ill, this guy.  The fact that he likes his steaks well done with ketchup is just another symptom.

irwin posted:

Pres. Trump is confused about where his father was born?  Recently claimed his father was born in Germany, but in the Art of the Deal, he says his father was born in New Jersey, and the truth is that his father was born in New York.  No wonder he was confused about where Pres. Obama was born.  If he can't recall the location of his own father's birth, it's not surprising that he'd screw up on the location of the birth of someone else.

He is seriously ill, this guy.  The fact that he likes his steaks well done with ketchup is just another symptom.

PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT LIKE OUR COUNTRY HAS NEVER SEEN BEFORE!!!

irwin posted:

Pres. Trump is confused about where his father was born?  Recently claimed his father was born in Germany, but in the Art of the Deal, he says his father was born in New Jersey, and the truth is that his father was born in New York.  No wonder he was confused about where Pres. Obama was born.  If he can't recall the location of his own father's birth, it's not surprising that he'd screw up on the location of the birth of someone else.

He is seriously ill, this guy.  The fact that he likes his steaks well done with ketchup is just another symptom.

When you make up everything you say on the spot, it's a little hard to keep things straight.

mneeley490 posted:
irwin posted:

Pres. Trump is confused about where his father was born?  Recently claimed his father was born in Germany, but in the Art of the Deal, he says his father was born in New Jersey, and the truth is that his father was born in New York.  No wonder he was confused about where Pres. Obama was born.  If he can't recall the location of his own father's birth, it's not surprising that he'd screw up on the location of the birth of someone else.

He is seriously ill, this guy.  The fact that he likes his steaks well done with ketchup is just another symptom.

When you make up everything you say on the spot, it's a little hard to keep things straight.

He made up that Trump didn't seem to know where his father was born? Here's your boy:

Adult man doesn't know where his father was born, thinks he's from another country.

My own favorite:

Adult man repeatedly says "oranges" for "origins.

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flwino posted:

Secret Service head canned. 

It just goes on and on...  tRump apparently, as is his habit, gave Alles the disparaging nickname of "Dumbo," making fun of his large ears.  Brilliant manager and motivator that he is, making fun of the guy whose department is responsible for his personal safety.  What a tool.

PH

billhike posted:

Maybe the personal detail will protest by standing down for a day.

One could only hope.   Then he'd have to hole up in the WH with a dozen cheesberders and a Big Gulp of covfefe.  Oh yeah... he does this most days anyway.

(Un) fortunately, these poor guys are still tasked with taking a bullet for his idiocy, regardless of how he denigrates their work.  

PH

mneeley490 posted:
thistlintom posted:

Napacat is right.  I have read from several sources that Barr is working with Mueller on redactions to the report before releasing it to Congress and the White House.  So Guiliani would not see it before Trump or Congress.

Interesting, Dershowitz argues that Trump and his legal group should be able to see the report and issue their own findings in concert with the release of the Mueller report to Congress.  His argument is that the Mueller report is a prosecutor's report and the defense should be able to provide a response at the same time.  But Barr has decided against that and will release the Mueller report by itself.

I'm alright with them releasing their own spin after it is released to Congress. Especially as Trump will probably find himself a defendant at some point. However, what I do not want to see is Barr pull another "Nunes"; racing to the WH in the dead of night to spoonfeed them the report before anyone else has a chance to see it.

Nailed it, unfortunately. As predicted, Barr is loading the dice. Anyone in the WH who told the complete truth about their dealings with Trump had better jump now.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/0...-mueller-report.html

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So to recap the Mueller Report, now that it is out:

-Wikileaks colluded with Russia to obtain its stolen emails

-Trump Junior and others in the Trump campaign colluded with Wikileaks over the stolen emails (proven through emails between them, quoted in the report)

-but there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia

Right, got it!

As for obstruction of justice, the only reason Trump didn't obstruct justice is because his lawyers and others refused to follow his directions to do so.  Good to know!

Nothing to see here, carry on.....

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thistlintom posted:

Report that Americans, especially younger ones, are stressed.  Maybe we have done a poor job of raising children and allowing them to deal with issues and conflicts as they grow up.  Overprotection does not enable children to grow up and deal with problems they are eventually going to have to deal with properly.

I’m confident they aren’t stressed with the $20T and growing debt our generation is leaving them.  Another all time record deficit last month. All this winning is very special! 

wineart 2 posted:
thistlintom posted:

Report that Americans, especially younger ones, are stressed.  Maybe we have done a poor job of raising children and allowing them to deal with issues and conflicts as they grow up.  Overprotection does not enable children to grow up and deal with problems they are eventually going to have to deal with properly.

I’m confident they aren’t stressed with the $20T and growing debt our generation is leaving them.  Another all time record deficit last month. All this winning is very special! 

What's really scary is that they probably aren't even aware of issues like the debt, ever-worsening relations with key allies, and election interference by hostile powers.  Imagine how stressed they will be when those chickens come home to roost!

bman posted:
wineart 2 posted:
thistlintom posted:

Report that Americans, especially younger ones, are stressed.  Maybe we have done a poor job of raising children and allowing them to deal with issues and conflicts as they grow up.  Overprotection does not enable children to grow up and deal with problems they are eventually going to have to deal with properly.

I’m confident they aren’t stressed with the $20T and growing debt our generation is leaving them.  Another all time record deficit last month. All this winning is very special! 

What's really scary is that they probably aren't even aware of issues like the debt, ever-worsening relations with key allies, and election interference by hostile powers.  Imagine how stressed they will be when those chickens come home to roost!

Oh my, my kids are without question. 

Also, for the first time ever they didn’t receive money back this year from their tav return.  

Debt:  One of the things I do as a lawyer is to interview potential new admittees to the Bar to try to assess their moral character. [One is supposed to have good moral character to become a lawyer] --Hold the jokes about how I managed to pass that test, please!

So this week I interviewed a guy who has emerged from law school with about $180,000 in debt.   Good grief. That is a lot of debt for a young guy.

irwin posted:

Debt:  One of the things I do as a lawyer is to interview potential new admittees to the Bar to try to assess their moral character. [One is supposed to have good moral character to become a lawyer] --Hold the jokes about how I managed to pass that test, please!

So this week I interviewed a guy who has emerged from law school with about $180,000 in debt.   Good grief. That is a lot of debt for a young guy.

Well - if he went to private universities, undergrad is what $40K a year now.  Law School is what $45-50K a year - hard to know these days how much - I am sure some of the parents with recent or current students know exactly  - very easy to have that kind of debt.

I graduated law school in 1997 - as some of you know my dad is a Rabbi, my mom worked for non-profits and we had no family money. I had way over $100K in student loans back then when tuition was lower.

I graduated from law school in 1978 after attending the U of MD (my state university).

College was $248 per semester when I started in 1971.  Law school was $1350 per semester.  Things cost less back then.  Near the end of law school I bought the top of the line Toyota Corolla.  Carpeting. Air conditioning. Tape deck.  Fire engine red.  Cost just under $4400. 
When I got out of law school, my first job was at a firm paying me $19,000 per year! My mother said, "What are you going to do with all that money?"  I said, "I'm going to spend 90% of it on women and alcohol, and just waste the other 10%."

 

College is getting ridiculously expensive.  It seems there are more and more bureaucrats in the schools causing enormous overheads and resulting in outlandish tuition costs.  You have staffs overseeing diversity, safe spaces and many other issues that really have nothing to do with getting an education.  There should be a concerted effort by schools to reduce the university costs and tuition.

We should also work on providing more avenues for people not interested in college, such as vocational schools.  Not everyone needs to go to college or should go to college.

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