I have just read that US wines are not allowed on regular grocery store shelves alongside BC wines in regular grocery stores in BC. They have to be in a separate "store-within-a-store". Can any Canadian tell me if this is true? If so, I am with you guys on the Bombardier tariff issue; this one definitely not.
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I didn't think that wine was allowed at all in regular grocery stores in BC. Has something changed?
As far as wine, beer and spirits stores in BC, displays I've seen are not separated. I suppose I should let BC residents be the authoritative word.
There are tax and duties on US wine that give Canadian wines a more favorable position. That advantage within BC is also the reason we see so few BC wines in Washington State.
I cant speak specifically to BC - but in Ontario there are taxes and duties on ALL wines. Ontario wines are given prominent space at all government controlled retail outlets. I don't think it gives Ontario wines a more favourable position - it gives them license to charge more for their "comparable" bottling.
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Originally posted by vinoevelo:
I cant speak specifically to BC - but in Ontario there are taxes and duties on ALL wines. Ontario wines are given prominent space at all government controlled retail outlets. I don't think it gives Ontario wines a more favourable position - it gives them license to charge more for their "comparable" bottling.


That...and... ALL wine is excessively taxed in Ontario. Alcohol is managed by the provinces, not federally. Ontario wine gets the prominent merchandising, placed by the entrance. The good wine (wine likely to be purchased buy forumites) is displayed at the back of the store, but with equal prominence to all regions/countries that are significant. Ontario wines get preferential placement but I don't find the prices to be competitive in most instances, so I don't perceive any price advantage for local wine. Most good ones are over priced in my view. In terms of availability, the KGBO (government liquor monopoly) does it's best to limit our ability to choose. Even some local wines have trouble making it onto shelves, especially some very good ones.

That said, it's easier to go to a good tasting of Cali wines here in Toronto than good Ontario wines...unless you drive to Niagara and visit the wineries...
This legislation was about 2.5 years ago (April 2015)? It's reeks of conflict of interest and F***ed-up-ness I dont know where to begin telling this story.

1. Yes what you say is true. Supermarket needs to hire a 18 yr old+ Cashier separately, building a separate section (Store within a store). No Napa, no Bordeaux, not even Ontario, just BC wines allowed. It's so fu**ing demented no supermarket in the right mind would waste the space to build it. So no, Not even 99% BC residents knows of this because it never happened.

2. It's not against US wines, its just against every other wine.

3. This change was implemented same day along with reducing wholesale discount from 30% to 20%. A prominent theory is that they are trying to drive private liquors out of business, because BC liquor retail is government owned.

4. On the day of change, Taxes were changed from HST(VAT) back to GST/PST. we lost the 3% discount from tax reduction we were suppose to get, because the BCLDB hid the tax increase with the new pricing scheme.

5. This "modernization" is a wrecking ball precursor to enable BC liquor store to also sell weed, allowing this union-operated Megalodon to Monopolize both weed and alcohol for eternity.

So NO, this isn't about Trump or the trade war. Only just taxing the shit out of us British Columbians.
Tell us how you really feel Slippery? Big Grin

In this province the only wines sold in supermarkets or depanneurs are bulk wines. Plonk, barely fit for cooking and it can come from anywhere.

There is no preferential displaying in the SAQ stores that I've noticed, but US wines are too expensive in general. I hope the NAFTA renegotiation means that beer and wine will be included this time. The Canadian wine industry has had nearly 30 years to prepare itself.
I don't feel much emotionally to be honest. Because I keep half my wines in the states/UK/HK. And being in the trade allows me other access to wines cheaply, sometimes free. Smile But I do despise the system, because I believe in the free market, and do feel sorry for the average folks.

Hopefully something good will come out of this Bombardier mess for us wine drinkers. But based on Trump's track record for handling things (like the USFL) I don't expect much.

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