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winetarelli posted:
brucehayes posted:

Ginger Baker at 80

Greatest rock drummer ever. I was just listening to Cream for an hour last night. What a legend. 

RIP. 

A force of nature, in music and in life.  A truly talented drummer.  Would have loved to hear more of him in other genres.  He always saw himself as a jazz drummer, interestingly enough.  RIP.

PH

My brother Dave. Suddenly at age 65.

My brother and his wife were celebrating their 40th anniversary with a drive down the west coast from Vancouver to LA. Two weeks ago, on the second last day of their vacation, Dave went for a swim in the ocean at Santa Monica, was hit hard by a wave, and was pulled under. By the time anyone realized what had happened and people found him, it was too late. He was on life support for five days but there was nothing that could be done. Fortunately his four children and their spouses had time to get to California to say goodbye. Life support was removed and he passed away a few hours later, just over a week ago.

A celebration of life was held yesterday in Ottawa, and family flew in from as far away as Scotland. Thanks so much to Bman and Mrs. Bman for taking the time to attend the visitation. Your presence and support meant a great deal to me.

Dave lived his life with more energy, passion and joy than anyone I've known. He was also deeply committed to his community and to helping others. He was one of the organizers of the annual motorcycle Ride for Dad in Ottawa, raising millions of dollars for prostate cancer research.

It's been a horrible, traumatic few weeks. He was a good friend and a good brother, and I miss him.

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RIP: Congressman Elijah Cummings.  68. 

He graduated from U of MD law school 2 years ahead of me.  Was a wonderful man, a tireless champion for people who were underrepresented and downtrodden.  Tried mightily to help his constituents and to fight for justice. 

There are politicians who seem to use their office to enrich themselves in one way or the other.  Here was a man who sought to enrich the lives of others.

A lot of tears are shedding in Baltimore today.

 

irwin posted:

RIP: Congressman Elijah Cummings.  68. 

He graduated from U of MD law school 2 years ahead of me.  Was a wonderful man, a tireless champion for people who were underrepresented and downtrodden.  Tried mightily to help his constituents and to fight for justice. 

There are politicians who seem to use their office to enrich themselves in one way or the other.  Here was a man who sought to enrich the lives of others.

A lot of tears are shedding in Baltimore today.

 

One of the best.  Will be a great loss to democracy

billhike posted:
The Old Man posted:

‘Joey the Clown’ Lombardo is dead at 90

However a terribly written article by the Chicago Sun Times. Unless I missed it I can't tell exactly when he was sentenced to prison and how long he'd been in.

Not sure “RIP” is appropriate for the murdering scumbag.

Well we'll have to start a Bye-Bye Scumbag thread. We'll reserve a future spot for the racist in chief.

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Paul Barrere, 71, of complications from liver disease. 

Guitarist, singer and songwriter with Little Feat. He joins the late, great Lowell George and drummer Richie Hayward. 

Paul wrote a number of Little Feat’s songs including All That You Dream, Feats Don’t Fail Me Now, Romance Dance, Skin It Back and Time Loves A Hero, and sang quite a few of them. 

sunnylea57 posted:

Paul Barrere, 71, of complications from liver disease. 

Guitarist, singer and songwriter with Little Feat. He joins the late, great Lowell George and drummer Richie Hayward. 

Paul wrote a number of Little Feat’s songs including All That You Dream, Feats Don’t Fail Me Now, Romance Dance, Skin It Back and Time Loves A Hero, and sang quite a few of them. 

Bummer. Loved Waiting for Columbus live album.

thistlintom posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

Paul Barrere, 71, of complications from liver disease. 

Guitarist, singer and songwriter with Little Feat. He joins the late, great Lowell George and drummer Richie Hayward. 

Paul wrote a number of Little Feat’s songs including All That You Dream, Feats Don’t Fail Me Now, Romance Dance, Skin It Back and Time Loves A Hero, and sang quite a few of them. 

Bummer. Loved Waiting for Columbus live album.

Serious bummer.  Loved that album as well, thistlintom.  I was an unpaid usher for the 3 shows at the Lisner Auditorium in August of !977.  The boys practically burned that place down.

PH

purplehaze posted:
thistlintom posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

Paul Barrere, 71, of complications from liver disease. 

Guitarist, singer and songwriter with Little Feat. He joins the late, great Lowell George and drummer Richie Hayward. 

Paul wrote a number of Little Feat’s songs including All That You Dream, Feats Don’t Fail Me Now, Romance Dance, Skin It Back and Time Loves A Hero, and sang quite a few of them. 

Bummer. Loved Waiting for Columbus live album.

Serious bummer.  Loved that album as well, thistlintom.  I was an unpaid usher for the 3 shows at the Lisner Auditorium in August of !977.  The boys practically burned that place down.

PH

Wow, that would have been phenomenal. Probably my biggest musical regret: I wish I'd seen them while Lowell was still alive but I'm not sure if they ever played in Toronto in the 70s. First time I saw them was in '89 - the first tour with Craig Fuller. Not even close to the same thing, but it was still a thrill for me.

The son of friends of ours was memorialized tonight after taking his own like last Thursday at age 22. He had struggled with mental health for a few years; his parents were quite active in trying to help him. Brian’s mom Tina delivered a wonderfully loving tribute to him - my wife and I were stunned at how she kept it together. While there were some very touching words said, it’s impossible for me to imagine the pain felt by our friends and their surviving son, and how they get some normalcy back in their lives. It frustrates me now knowing what to say to help them in any meaningful way. 

RIP Brian. 

billhike posted:

The son of friends of ours was memorialized tonight after taking his own like last Thursday at age 22. He had struggled with mental health for a few years; his parents were quite active in trying to help him. Brian’s mom Tina delivered a wonderfully loving tribute to him - my wife and I were stunned at how she kept it together. While there were some very touching words said, it’s impossible for me to imagine the pain felt by our friends and their surviving son, and how they get some normalcy back in their lives. It frustrates me now knowing what to say to help them in any meaningful way. 

RIP Brian. 

Bill,

so sorry to hear this, it is a shame that someone so young has taken their life.  The pain and helplessness that is felt by those suffering from depression is hard to understand by those who have not been afflicted by it.  I imagine that those around the person who took their life have a hard time understanding what this person was facing and may feel some guilt in not saving this person, but it is not their fault.  My condolences to all.   I think the best you can do is say you are sorry for their loss and that you are there if they want to talk.

Bill, that's awful and terribly sad. As Thistlintom said, I think the best you can do is to let them know that you care and that you're there for them if they need help with anything or a sympathetic ear. Give them space, but also check in with them once in awhile. 

I'm going to quote a good friend who recently gave me this piece of wisdom (gained from personal experience): 

The last thing I learned is how very quickly people move on and forget how much you’re still hurting. Weeks, months, years later, precious few even remember what happened and when. Which hurts a little but again, grief if so intensely personal and is so different for everyone. Unless you’re highly expressive about your feelings, people just don’t know where you are in the process. 

Which is why I suggest doing the occasional check-in. Just knowing that you're still thinking about them can be a tremendous help.

 

Divot, our 12 1/2 year old greyhound.  We put her to sleep last night after discovering cancer on her spleen and in her intestines.  It only seemed to bother her this past week.  It can be hard to know when dogs are ill, they are so stoic.  We rescued her from the track at 2 years old, she never raced, she had a mind of her own.  She had a great life but we are going to miss her.

thistlintom posted:

Divot, our 12 1/2 year old greyhound.  We put her to sleep last night after discovering cancer on her spleen and in her intestines.  It only seemed to bother her this past week.  It can be hard to know when dogs are ill, they are so stoic.  We rescued her from the track at 2 years old, she never raced, she had a mind of her own.  She had a great life but we are going to miss her.

Very sorry to read this, TT. I’m glad she was found by your family.

thistlintom posted:

Divot, our 12 1/2 year old greyhound.  We put her to sleep last night after discovering cancer on her spleen and in her intestines.  It only seemed to bother her this past week.  It can be hard to know when dogs are ill, they are so stoic.  We rescued her from the track at 2 years old, she never raced, she had a mind of her own.  She had a great life but we are going to miss her.

So sorry for your loss. I completely understand. We had to do the same to our 10 year old dog this past summer. I still miss her every day. 

The Old Man posted:

Sue Lyon at 73. I was just watching Lolita for the manyith (sic) time and was marveling at how she holds the screen against James Mason in the 2-minute continuous scene where Humbert interrogates her about if she's been going to her piano lessons. Remember she was a first-time actress at 14.

I didn’t see this news.

I recently rewatched The Night of the Iguana. 

The Old Man posted:
wineart 2 posted:
bomba503 posted:
napacat posted:

Chris Bilbro from Marietta Cellars...what a terribly nice man.  Had the pleasure of meeting him multiple times.  RIP.

He passed almost a year ago 

Indeed. A year ago this month. 

He's too busy watching Fox State News to keep up with local events.

I hear that Harry S. Truman died also.  Was this in FOX?

arsenal4ever posted:

Don Larsen. who IMHO, pitched the greatest game in baseball history. Perfect game in the World Series. I have the program from the game as my father attended.

Larsen's career record was under .500 and he got shelled in game 2 of that series in 1956, making the perfect game even more astounding.

sunnylea57 posted:
brucehayes posted:

Rush drummer Neil Peart.  I am shocked.

So sad. Battling brain cancer for 3 years and kept it quiet. 

This really hurts. Selfishly I’m glad I finally saw him perform live on their final tour. After what he had previously gone through (losing his wife and daughter in the same year) I was hoping he would enjoy a long retirement with his new family, Definitely raising a glass to him tonight.

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billhike posted:
sunnylea57 posted:
brucehayes posted:

Rush drummer Neil Peart.  I am shocked.

So sad. Battling brain cancer for 3 years and kept it quiet. 

This really hurts. Selfishly I’m glad I finally saw him perform live on their final tour. After what he had previously gone through (losing his wife and daughter in the same year) I was hoping he would enjoy a long retirement with his new family, Definitely raising a glass to him tonight.

Was a big fan as well. RIP

bomba503 posted:
billhike posted:
sunnylea57 posted:
brucehayes posted:

Rush drummer Neil Peart.  I am shocked.

So sad. Battling brain cancer for 3 years and kept it quiet. 

This really hurts. Selfishly I’m glad I finally saw him perform live on their final tour. After what he had previously gone through (losing his wife and daughter in the same year) I was hoping he would enjoy a long retirement with his new family, Definitely raising a glass to him tonight.

Was a big fan as well. RIP

Never a huge Rush fan but always appreciated the musicianship and interplay.   I tell you what tho, I listened to a replay of Jim Ladd’s interview with Neil from 2015 on deep tracks, and wow, what a force.  Highly intelligent, thoughtful, articulate, well read,  meaningful stuff to say.  Little did I know he was an author of 6 books.  I played some greatest hits when I got home afterwards and lamented I never got to see them live.  Hella drummer.

jabe11 posted:
bomba503 posted:
billhike posted:
sunnylea57 posted:
brucehayes posted:

Rush drummer Neil Peart.  I am shocked.

So sad. Battling brain cancer for 3 years and kept it quiet. 

This really hurts. Selfishly I’m glad I finally saw him perform live on their final tour. After what he had previously gone through (losing his wife and daughter in the same year) I was hoping he would enjoy a long retirement with his new family, Definitely raising a glass to him tonight.

Was a big fan as well. RIP

Never a huge Rush fan but always appreciated the musicianship and interplay.   I tell you what tho, I listened to a replay of Jim Ladd’s interview with Neil from 2015 on deep tracks, and wow, what a force.  Highly intelligent, thoughtful, articulate, well read,  meaningful stuff to say.  Little did I know he was an author of 6 books.  I played some greatest hits when I got home afterwards and lamented I never got to see them live.  Hella drummer.

I highly recommend reading Ghost Rider if you get the chance. It’s nothing to do with the band, but rather an account of his 55,000 mile motorcycle journey dealing with personal loss. And yeah, for a guy who really hated publicity his interviews were fantastic. 

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jcocktosten posted:
purplehaze posted:

Morgan Wootten.  One of only 3 high school basketball coaches to be admitted to the Hall of Fame.  Coached for 46 seasons with an overall record of 1274 wins and 192 losses.  A DC legend, who was called the "best basketball coach at any level," by no less than Dean Smith.

PH

Where at?  Dematha?

DeMatha, indeed. 

PH, John Wooden also said he knew of no finer coach than Wootten. I actually flew with friends while in college to see DeMatha in a tournament. They were that special.

DeMatha beat Power Memorial ( NYC) to break their 71 game winning streak when Lew Alcindor was the most dominant player in high school and a legend at Power Memorial. To name a few players that were coached by Wootten include, Adrian Dantley, Danny Ferry, Sidney Lowe, Derrick Whittenburg and James Brown before went on to Harvard to dominate the Ivy League and now at Fox covering the NFL. 

LEGEND! 

purplehaze posted:

Morgan Wootten.  One of only 3 high school basketball coaches to be admitted to the Hall of Fame.  Coached for 46 seasons with an overall record of 1274 wins and 192 losses.  A DC legend, who was called the "best basketball coach at any level," by no less than Dean Smith.

PH

Didn’t recognize the name and don’t even have to look it up. There could be only one place that he coached. Has to be DeMatha

bomba503 posted: 
Didn’t recognize the name and don’t even have to look it up. There could be only one place that he coached. Has to be DeMatha

Yup.  Not only a great coach, but a wonderful human being.  His mantra was "teacher first, coach second."  He had no intentions of being a basketball coach, but was told by the head nun at the orphanage where he was a teacher that he was now the basketball coach.  The nun was obviously had a great eye for talent.

PH

My son is 11 and a huge basketball fan, Kobe will be one he remembers 'Where he was".  I was 12 when Len Bias died right after being drafted by the Celtics, still remember my buddy riding his bike over to tell me (obviously way before the internet).  

Feel terrible for his wife and three daughters who have to struggle through the grief of losing Kobe and his daughter.  

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mangiare posted:

RIP- very tragic - That heli was is so high tech you should be able to fly it with the controls and no visuals.  

Agree. They took off from John Wayne so clearly were given clearance. Reports also say the pilot was in communication with local flight control although the hills can give you problems at certain altitudes with communication. 

when any crash occurs, the "experts" are interviewed in the immediate aftermath of the crash, and they typically say, "It's too early to speculate on what caused this".  Of course, what they mean is that it is the right time to speculate, but it is too early to know. 

I mean, if you're going to speculate, you may as well do so.  Might not be totally irrational to wait and see what the evidence is.  The fact that the helicopter seems to have turned back suggests to me that perhaps there was some mechanical issue detected by the pilot.  That's my speculation.

One month shy of her fourth birthday, Wrenley, the daughter of friends of ours. She was very sick most of her short life, and underwent a bone marrow transplant as well as many other procedures. The girl was a heck of a little fighter. This is twice in 2-1/2 months that friends have lost a child. I’m not a parent, but it’s impossible for me to think of something more painful that anyone could go through. 

billhike posted:

One month shy of her fourth birthday, Wrenley, the daughter of friends of ours. She was very sick most of her short life, and underwent a bone marrow transplant as well as many other procedures. The girl was a heck of a little fighter. This is twice in 2-1/2 months that friends have lost a child. I’m not a parent, but it’s impossible for me to think of something more painful that anyone could go through. 

Very sorry to hear of this.  I can't imagine what it is like to lose a child and to have one sick and fight for most of her life.

billhike posted:

One month shy of her fourth birthday, Wrenley, the daughter of friends of ours. She was very sick most of her short life, and underwent a bone marrow transplant as well as many other procedures. The girl was a heck of a little fighter. This is twice in 2-1/2 months that friends have lost a child. I’m not a parent, but it’s impossible for me to think of something more painful that anyone could go through. 

Very sorry to hear, sincere condolences.  My greatest fear is something happening to one of my sons, I can't imagine the grief your friends are going through right now. 

patespo1 posted:
billhike posted:

One month shy of her fourth birthday, Wrenley, the daughter of friends of ours. She was very sick most of her short life, and underwent a bone marrow transplant as well as many other procedures. The girl was a heck of a little fighter. This is twice in 2-1/2 months that friends have lost a child. I’m not a parent, but it’s impossible for me to think of something more painful that anyone could go through. 

Very sorry to hear, sincere condolences.  My greatest fear is something happening to one of my sons, I can't imagine the grief your friends are going through right now. 

My daughters are in their 30s now.  It never goes away.  No parent should outlive their child. And don't get me started on grandchildren.  

PH

purplehaze posted:
patespo1 posted:
billhike posted:

One month shy of her fourth birthday, Wrenley, the daughter of friends of ours. She was very sick most of her short life, and underwent a bone marrow transplant as well as many other procedures. The girl was a heck of a little fighter. This is twice in 2-1/2 months that friends have lost a child. I’m not a parent, but it’s impossible for me to think of something more painful that anyone could go through. 

Very sorry to hear, sincere condolences.  My greatest fear is something happening to one of my sons, I can't imagine the grief your friends are going through right now. 

My daughters are in their 30s now.  It never goes away.  No parent should outlive their child. And don't get me started on grandchildren.  

PH

Truly tragic. I had that same conversation with the Grandmother of my ex-GF at her memorial service last Friday. I cant imagine the pain she was in

thistlintom posted:
billhike posted:

One month shy of her fourth birthday, Wrenley, the daughter of friends of ours. She was very sick most of her short life, and underwent a bone marrow transplant as well as many other procedures. The girl was a heck of a little fighter. This is twice in 2-1/2 months that friends have lost a child. I’m not a parent, but it’s impossible for me to think of something more painful that anyone could go through. 

Very sorry to hear of this.  I can't imagine what it is like to lose a child and to have one sick and fight for most of her life.

The worst nightmare that can ever occur to a parent. Very sad.

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I just saw that too. Always affable. Most memorable in the original (and still the best) movie The Time Machine. When WB released the DVD in 1993 they actually created a mini-sequel with Bean and Rod Taylor reprising their original roles. It had our time traveler, H.G. Wells, traveling back to his 19th century time period to tell his postman, played by Bean, what happened since he defeated the Morlocks. It was a charming short film.

I saw Pat Metheny play a number of times with Gary Burton before he formed his own group. After about a year he went his own way and Lyle was in his first group. I saw their first appearance at Amazingrace in Evanston IL in July 1976. Amazingrace held around 400 people most of who sat on the floor. I actually have bootleg cassettes that I recorded in 1978 on a Nakamichi tied into the sound board. They sound awful!

We often have fond memories of TV shows we grew up with. Many of them, on rewatching as a adult, don't stand up. Columbo is one of the few that has not dated and is still as good as it was when it was first on. This is due not only to Peter Falk's great job in the lead, but also to consistently first class writing, direction, and production. The episode directed by Steven Spielberg even has a tribute to Citizen Kane.

Falk is buried in the must-see Pierce Brothers Westwood Memorial Park. His headstone is a tribute to his beloved wife, and protector of his estate (from his evil daughter), Shera Danese. She appeared on Columbo six times, more than any other guest actor. The real "Mrs. Columbo" indeed.

Image result for peter falks grave

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The Old Man posted:

We often have fond memories of TV shows we grew up with. Many of them, on rewatching as a adult, don't stand up. Columbo is one of the few that has not dated and is still as good as it was when it was first on. This is due not only to Peter Falk's great job in the lead, but also to consistently first class writing, direction, and production. The episode directed by Steven Spielberg even has a tribute to Citizen Kane.

Falk is buried in the must-see Pierce Brothers Westwood Memorial Park. His headstone is a tribute to his beloved wife, and protector of his estate (from his evil daughter), Shera Danese. She appeared on Columbo six times, more than any other guest actor. The real "Mrs. Columbo" indeed.

Image result for peter falks grave

Thanks for this and I agree. Its my dad's  favorite show and in 2018 when my mom was dying from brain cancer I think we watched every  episode

wineart 2 posted:
billhike posted:
arsenal4ever posted:

Henri Richard at 84. The Canadians Flying Frenchmen of the 60s and 70s got me excited about hockey. The strike ended that love affair.

RIP “Pocket Rocket”.

No one has as many Stanley Cups. (11) 

At least as a player. Jean Beliveau had 10 as a player and 7 as an executive. 

vinole posted:
sunnylea57 posted:

Jazz great McCoy Tyner

Bummer.  I still listen to his work on a regular basis.  He will be missed. Probably the last great one left of that generatio is Sonny Rollins, who turns 90 later this year, and was still performing a few years ago.

Was thrilled to see Sonny at an intimate venue here in Toronto. It doesn’t seem long ago, but I just did the math and it was more than 20 years ago. 

mneeley490 posted:
The Old Man posted:

Lyle Waggoner--84. I remember when I first saw in LA his now ubiquitous Star Waggons.

Still remember him from The Carroll Burnett Show.  Funny guy; he didn't get enough credit with hams like Korman and Conway.

Somebody had to play the straight man.