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Originally posted by haggis:
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Originally posted by irwin:
Charles Manson died. Maybe we should have a RIH thread.


In this case, RIP can be "Rest In Purgatory."


No, that would be too kind.

What really baffles me is how the news media has really played up his death and recounted the actions that made him infamous.
It’s like saying, “Hey kids! If you really want to be remembered, just go out and brutally murder a bunch of people.”
Meanwhile, people who are actually kind, generous, and produce positive impacts on society are typically ignored.
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Originally posted by Redhawk:
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Originally posted by haggis:
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Originally posted by irwin:
Charles Manson died. Maybe we should have a RIH thread.


In this case, RIP can be "Rest In Purgatory."


No, that would be too kind.

What really baffles me is how the news media has really played up his death and recounted the actions that made him infamous.
It’s like saying, “Hey kids! If you really want to be remembered, just go out and brutally murder a bunch of people.”
Meanwhile, people who are actually kind, generous, and produce positive impacts on society are typically ignored.



Like Mel Tillis as listed above
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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
Jana Novatna - Czech tennis player, Wimbledon champion. Sad

Very sad. I didn't know that she was battling cancer. Frown

Her loss to Graf in the 1993 Wimbledon Final, after leading 4-1 in the final set, was one of the most memorable moments in the history of tennis. She was completely distraught, and sought consolation on the shoulder of the Duchess of Kent. A completely genuine and moving moment.

I was very happy that she finally won Wimbledon in 1998.

She was an exceptional doubles and mixed doubles player, winning a combined 16 Grand Slam titles in both.

She had a fantastic smile!

I hope she is now at peace.
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Originally posted by FL Wino:
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Bummer. Good run at 87 though.

I remember the first time I heard him sing. I was sure someone was doing a voiceover.

RIP

PH


No more back home in Indiana

As a long time IndyCar fan, his rendition was a tradition on that morning in late May every year before the 500. Not the same without him. RIP
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Originally posted by vinole:
RIP Pat DiNizio, lead singer of The Smithereens. Only 62.


Wow big bummer! They started out in my college town during my college days and played fraternity basement parties a couple times. We're also regulars with many shows at the Court Tavern. RIP Pat
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
WKBW (Buffalo) news anchor Irv Weinstein died on Dec 26th. He was 87 and had Lou Gehrig's Disease.

RIP. Anyone in southern Ontario who owned a TV during the eighties will likely have fond memories of Irv's nightly Eyewitness News, reporting on yet another fire in Cheektowaga, Lackawanna or North Tonawanda.
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Originally posted by VinT:
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
WKBW (Buffalo) news anchor Irv Weinstein died on Dec 26th. He was 87 and had Lou Gehrig's Disease.

RIP. Anyone in southern Ontario who owned a TV during the eighties will likely have fond memories of Irv's nightly Eyewitness News, reporting on yet another fire in Cheektowaga, Lackawanna or North Tonawanda.

I remember him well. Do you know where your children are?
Fred Bass of The Strand Bookstore in NYC...in the late 80s I was doing some temp work for a literary editor at a magazine...every week she would give me dozens of review copies, which I would then schlep down to The Strand...paid for my weekend drinking!!!

RIP.
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Originally posted by Wino90210:
Fred Bass of The Strand Bookstore in NYC...in the late 80s I was doing some temp work for a literary editor at a magazine...every week she would give me dozens of review copies, which I would then schlep down to The Strand...paid for my weekend drinking!!!

RIP.


Nice.
Rick Hall

Died on Tuesday at age 85.

The founder of Muscle Shoals "FAME Studios". The producer or co-producer of dozens of the biggest R&B hits by Aretha Franklin, Wilson Pickett, Etta James, Clarence Carter and many others. And the man behind the Swampers session band who played on all of those hits.

If you haven't already, check out the 2013 documentary "Muscle Shoals" about Rick Hall, FAME Studios and the Swampers. Fantastic.

https://nyti.ms/2DVhp5i
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
Rick Hall

Died on Tuesday at age 85.

The founder of Muscle Shoals "FAME Studios". The producer or co-producer of dozens of the biggest R&B hits by Aretha Franklin, Wilson Pickett, Etta James, Clarence Carter and many others. And the man behind the Swampers session band who played on all of those hits.

If you haven't already, check out the 2013 documentary "Muscle Shoals" about Rick Hall, FAME Studios and the Swampers. Fantastic.

https://nyti.ms/2DVhp5i


Terrific doc...I was shocked to discover the Donna Godchaux (backup singer for Grateful Dead in 70s) sang on "When A Man Loves A Woman" by Percy Sledge! Hard to reconcile with her PITB wailing...
Brendan Byrne former governor of NJ who brought the Giants to the Meadowlands, casino gambling to Atlantic City, preserved the Pinelands and instituted the first state income tax (a highly unpopular but needed thing when the state was on the brink in the mid 70s)
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
John Young. The only US astronaut to fly in the Gemini, Apollo and Space Shuttle programs, at 87. Of note, he's the only astronaut ever to be admonished by Congress for sneaking a corned beef sandwich onto a spacecraft.

PH

Do you blame him? RIP
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Originally posted by scbeerman:
Keith Jackson

IMO the greatest CFB play by play guy ever. He was a true icon, and back in the day, if he was announcing your game then it was a big one.

Whoa Nelly!!! RIP


RIP Keith, who will always be THE voice of college football.
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Originally posted by vinole:
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Originally posted by scbeerman:
Keith Jackson

IMO the greatest CFB play by play guy ever. He was a true icon, and back in the day, if he was announcing your game then it was a big one.

Whoa Nelly!!! RIP


RIP Keith, who will always be THE voice of college football.

Huge +1 on both comments. His last game was the 2006 Texas-USC championship and I will always get goosebumps when I hear “He’s going for the cornerrrrr!” He will always be the voice of college football. RIP
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Originally posted by bomba503:
And not just college FB but many other sports notably some of the greatest moments in Olympics history. If there was ever someone who would live forever through the recorded annals of sports history it's Keith Jackson


Absolutely, +1.
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Originally posted by GlennK:
The name didn’t register for me so I actually had to google Keith Jackson and ended up watching some cool videos of his play by play for big games. Seemed like a great career.


Red Face Generation gap! I didn't realize you were that young GlennK.

RIP
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Originally posted by steve8:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
The name didn’t register for me so I actually had to google Keith Jackson and ended up watching some cool videos of his play by play for big games. Seemed like a great career.


Red Face Generation gap! I didn't realize you were that young GlennK.

RIP


Umm, more of a senior moment I think. Wink

Hell, he called the 2006 college national championship game. Rose Bowl. California. Not to mention NFL, Olympics, college football, pro football, college basketball, World Series, NBA, PGA, MLB.... Big Grin
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by steve8:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
The name didn’t register for me so I actually had to google Keith Jackson and ended up watching some cool videos of his play by play for big games. Seemed like a great career.


Red Face Generation gap! I didn't realize you were that young GlennK.

RIP


Umm, more of a senior moment I think. Wink

Hell, he called the 2006 college national championship game. Rose Bowl. California. Not to mention NFL, Olympics, college football, pro football, college basketball, World Series, NBA, PGA, MLB.... Big Grin
More likely due to the fact that I have never been much of a college football fan and rarely watch. When I went back and watched some of the videos online of his famous calls the voice was familiar so I'm sure I've heard him. I just didn't recognize the name.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by steve8:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
The name didn’t register for me so I actually had to google Keith Jackson and ended up watching some cool videos of his play by play for big games. Seemed like a great career.


Red Face Generation gap! I didn't realize you were that young GlennK.

RIP


Umm, more of a senior moment I think. Wink

Hell, he called the 2006 college national championship game. Rose Bowl. California. Not to mention NFL, Olympics, college football, pro football, college basketball, World Series, NBA, PGA, MLB.... Big Grin


Let's not forget auto racing with Jackie Stewart. Another classic pairing
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Originally posted by steve8:
I can probably count the number of college football games I've watched on one hand. I remember him for baseball, the Olympics and Wide World of Sports.
I had to google wide world of sports. Smile

To be honest I just don't watch a lot of sports. Even when I was kid and loved baseball and basketball more than anything, I enjoyed reading about it in the paper vs. watching a full game. I've never had the patience to sit through an entire game other than Laker/Dodger playoff games. I have not watched a full superbowl game in probably 15 years as an example. I usually golf on superbowl Sunday because my course is a ghost town.
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Originally posted by GlennK:
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Originally posted by steve8:
I can probably count the number of college football games I've watched on one hand. I remember him for baseball, the Olympics and Wide World of Sports.
I had to google wide world of sports. Smile

To be honest I just don't watch a lot of sports. Even when I was kid and loved baseball and basketball more than anything, I enjoyed reading about it in the paper vs. watching a full game. I've never had the patience to sit through an entire game other than Laker/Dodger playoff games. I have not watched a full superbowl game in probably 15 years as an example. I usually golf on superbowl Sunday because my course is a ghost town.

Wide World of Sports
Dan Gurney, first driver to win in Formula 1, IndyCar, and NASCAR. Won LeMans and then a month later won an F1 race with a car he built himself.

A driver that would jump into any car and drive it as fast as it would go. Beyond those above he drove Can-Am, Trans-Am, BTC and others as well.

Created the Gurney flap, the Gurney bubble and the Gurney bump. All aerodynamic aids still used today. Also one of the first racers to use a full face helmet.
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
John Young. The only US astronaut to fly in the Gemini, Apollo and Space Shuttle programs, at 87. Of note, he's the only astronaut ever to be admonished by Congress for sneaking a corned beef sandwich onto a spacecraft.

PH


Seems like a good use of Congress' time Big Grin
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Originally posted by Napacat:
Tom Petty’s cause of death released. Too sad. Pain meds from a fractured hip...etc. probably the hardest death to cope with last year. I personally underrated him for years.

Such a massive talent. Now I can’t listen enough!
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Napacat:
Tom Petty’s cause of death released. Too sad. Pain meds from a fractured hip...!


Pain meds mixed with 6 other drugs. Don’t think there was any surprise here.

I was a bit surprised, and very disappointed. I loved his music, but my impression was that he wanted to semi-retire and spend time with his grandkids. Now they will never have that time with him because of his stupidity, for lack of a better word.
Same goes for Philip Seymore Hoffman.
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Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Etta James


Bummer. Got to see her perform at a blues festival in Dallas probably over 25 years ago.
She died in 2012. I'm guessing he meant to post in the what are you listening too thread.
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Originally posted by GlennK:
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Originally posted by VinCentric:
Bruno Giacosa

I wasn't able to meet the man, but his wines speak volumes. RIP Bruno Giacosa.
I went to an incredible Giacosa dinner about 5 years ago that really showed me how great the wines are. Just picked up some 01 Falletto di Serralunga last week. RIP

Sad. One of the few remaining of the Piemonte old guard. I have an 04 Giacosa Falletto di Serralunga standing right now.
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
John Coleman great Chicago weatherman who wised up and moved to San Diego. FWIW also a vehement climate change denier.

Not to put him down or anything, but it seems like being a weatherman in San Diego would be a pretty easy job.
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
John Coleman great Chicago weatherman who wised up and moved to San Diego. FWIW also a vehement climate change denier.

Not to put him down or anything, but it seems like being a weatherman in San Diego would be a pretty easy job.


Also founder of Weather Channel
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Originally posted by g-man:
ursula k. le guin.

Her imagination knew no bounds. From the beautiful worlds she envisioned, the intricate varieties of magic casting to the complex characters you both rooted and hated for, she will sorely be missed by this fan.


You beat me to it. Giant of the fantasy world
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
Not into evangelism, but I'll give him this: You never heard about any skeletons in his closet. Can't say the same about many of the others.


He did make some anti-Semitic comments, recorded on tape while speaking with President Nixon, for which he [Graham] later apologized.
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Originally posted by irwin:
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
Not into evangelism, but I'll give him this: You never heard about any skeletons in his closet. Can't say the same about many of the others.


He did make some anti-Semitic comments, recorded on tape while speaking with President Nixon, for which he [Graham] later apologized.


It wasn't until 2012 that his website removed reference to Mormonism as a cult. And when he did so, the backlash from some in the "evangelical" community was pretty fierce.
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Rusty Staub


Just spent a few days listening to him watching Baseball by Ken Burns. A true "baseball guy."

PH

When I was a kid we went to the old Rangers stadium to see them play the Yankees. Staub was at bat and hit a long ball out toward Reggie Jackson, who thought it went out and turned around with his arms folded to watch Staub round the bases. The ball actually hit the top of the wall, stayed in the field of play, and bounced to a stop about ten feet behind Jackson. The other Yankees came running and shouting at Reggie, who quickly grabbed the ball and threw it to the infield. Had it been any other player it would have been an in the park home run. Staub, who was never known for his speed, made it to third. Great memory from my first live baseball game. RIP
Even though he only played 4 seasons total for the Expos, Staub is a folk legend in Montreal. Maybe not as much as Gary Carter, but pretty close.

My memories of him though are of his time with the Tigers. He had 3 outstanding seasons with them at a time when the team was not good...no they sucked. He and Mark Fidrych were the stars of an otherwise grim 1976 season.

RIP Rusty.
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Originally posted by steve8:
Even though he only played 4 seasons total for the Expos, Staub is a folk legend in Montreal. Maybe not as much as Gary Carter, but pretty close.

My memories of him though are of his time with the Tigers. He had 3 outstanding seasons with them at a time when the team was not good...no they sucked. He and Mark Fidrych were the stars of an otherwise grim 1976 season.

RIP Rusty.


Le Grande Orange
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Originally posted by billhike:

"Topic closed", so it can't be added to.


I knew without even looking that the final post to that glorious thread would be from bman.

I wish I had a dollar for every time I've warned him never to mention PG Wodehouse in these forums. I told him it's just not possible to mention Wodehouse without offending someone (or maybe I should have said 'without offending everyone'). He promised me that he would listen to my advice, but clearly that was just a ruse.

It figures that the straw that broke the camel's back in that long-running thread wouldn't be political, or sexual, or combative, or commercial, or racist, or insulting.

No. To kill off a thread that way took something LITERARY!

And I think now everyone knows just how insidious books and authors can be.
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
A little heavy handed on Robert's part, methinks.

I dunno, PH. It looks like a fairly even-handed application of a 'three strikes you're out' policy on Robert's part. Warnings from him on Feb 9th and March 7th, along with posts from Mimik and I, were ignored. The non-random, non-off-topic political posts continued, and the end was a foregone conclusion.
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Originally posted by VinT:

I dunno, PH. It looks like a fairly even-handed application of a 'three strikes you're out' policy on Robert's part...


I think nuking the thread was over-kill. What did he hope to accomplish? Did he think that doing this was going to somehow stop future political posts here? Given the egregious crap that was permitted to go on here for years with several well known suspects, this seemed like a lazy way out.

The TOS for the WS site says political posts are "subject" to deletion. I didn't see the post(s) that precipitated the locking of the thread in question, but most of the political discourse I say there was good natured and funny. The TOS also say that "offenders" would get an e-mail warning them of the inappropriate post(s). I know I've made a post or twelve in violation of the TOS and I haven't heard a peep.

PH
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Originally posted by sunnylea57:
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Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
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Originally posted by Mimik:
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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
Say Something Completely Random And Off Topic Frown


Sad but true.

+1

?? It’s still alive.

“I’m not dead yet.”

Hey, turns out you were right! At least until someone hits it over the head...
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
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Originally posted by VinT:

I dunno, PH. It looks like a fairly even-handed application of a 'three strikes you're out' policy on Robert's part...


I think nuking the thread was over-kill. What did he hope to accomplish? Did he think that doing this was going to somehow stop future political posts here? Given the egregious crap that was permitted to go on here for years with several well known suspects, this seemed like a lazy way out.

The TOS for the WS site says political posts are "subject" to deletion. I didn't see the post(s) that precipitated the locking of the thread in question, but most of the political discourse I say there was good natured and funny. The TOS also say that "offenders" would get an e-mail warning them of the inappropriate post(s). I know I've made a post or twelve in violation of the TOS and I haven't heard a peep.

PH


WORD.
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Originally posted by pape du neuf:
Did no one notice that Cecil Taylor died a few days ago? Maybe everyone should stop worrying about who should hang it up, and pay attention to what deserves attention.


Visit the What are you listening to thread and you see VERY little interest in free jazz. Frown
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Originally posted by pape du neuf:
Did no one notice that Cecil Taylor died a few days ago? Maybe everyone should stop worrying about who should hang it up, and pay attention to what deserves attention.

Missed this. Saw him in the late 70s at the Jazz Showcase on Rush St. My head is still hurting; it was the most intense concert I've ever been to.
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
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Originally posted by pape du neuf:
Did no one notice that Cecil Taylor died a few days ago? Maybe everyone should stop worrying about who should hang it up, and pay attention to what deserves attention.

Missed this. Saw him in the late 70s at the Jazz Showcase on Rush St. My head is still hurting; it was the most intense concert I've ever been to.


I, too, missed this news. Bummer.
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Originally posted by ThistlinTom:
Milos Forman, director of One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest


Amadeus is my favorite movie, kindled my love of classical music and is the single biggest reason I learned how to play a violin (kind of).

RIP, from the bottom of my heart.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by steve8:
R Lee Ermey

"Five-foot-nine, I didn't know they stacked shit that high!"


Sorry to hear it. He was simply terrific in the opening scene of Full Metal Jacket!


never heard of this guy and movie was on poor to bad side
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Originally posted by indybob:
RIP Bob Dorough, who wrote many of the Schoolhouse Rock tunes you know and love. Here's my personal favorite, the often-overlooked Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla

He was 94 years old.


Watched all of them in the early 70's... Lolly's Adverbs for Sale, Conjunction Junction, I'm Just a Bill, also liked Rufus and Pronouns for sure! Literacy would be way higher if these songs were available in today's classrooms.

RIP Bob, a heartfelt Thank You as well.
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Originally posted by Captain Cancun:
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Originally posted by indybob:
RIP Bob Dorough, who wrote many of the Schoolhouse Rock tunes you know and love. Here's my personal favorite, the often-overlooked Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla

He was 94 years old.


Watched all of them in the early 70's... Lolly's Adverbs for Sale, Conjunction Junction, I'm Just a Bill, also liked Rufus and Pronouns for sure! Literacy would be way higher if these songs were available in today's classrooms.

RIP Bob, a heartfelt Thank You as well.

I remember most of those cartoons (and their messages), too. Those songs really stick in your head. Maybe someone should send a compilation dvd to a certain someone in D.C. to learn about grammar and how Bills are formed.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Abbas, R.I.P.

While I’m confident most are not aware of his photography, he was a talented photojournalist IMO. I always felt I understood the narrative of his work.

At first I thought you were referring to Abbas Kiarostami, someone else who most people are not aware was a brilliant photographer (in addition to his filmmaking)... and I thought you were a few years behind in hearing about his death.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Abbas, R.I.P.

While I’m confident most are not aware of his photography, he was a talented photojournalist IMO. I always felt I understood the narrative of his work.


Heard a good interview with him by Terry Gross of Fresh Air (NPR). Worth seeking out.

PH

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