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@irwin posted:

Dwayne Hickman, who played Dobie Gillis.  Only we old folks remember that show.

And to provide a bit more perspective, Irwin, for those afflicted with a surplus of youth, Dobie Gillis‘s beatnik sidekick was Maynard G Krebs, played by Bob Denver. Denver later became Gilligan, of Gilligan's Island, which I think was a much bigger hit than Dobie Gillis.😊

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@seaquam posted:

And to provide a bit more perspective, Irwin, for those afflicted with a surplus of youth, Dobie Gillis‘s beatnik sidekick was Maynard G Krebs, played by Bob Denver. Denver later became Gilligan, of Gilligan's Island, which I think was a much bigger hit than Dobie Gillis.😊

And to provide more perspective Dobie Gillis ran longer than Gilligan's Island. It's also where Warren Beatty got his start.

From Yahoo: "Authorities have identified the victim of a fatal car crash on Tuesday as Savaii Seau, the 56-year-old brother of late Chargers star and Hall of Famer Junior Seau.

"The San Diego Union-Tribune cited law enforcement authorities who said that Seau's Audi G drifted into oncoming traffic and collided head-on with a dump truck in the San Diego suburb of Lakeside. Seau sustained serious injuries and died after being transported to a hospital. His wife was riding in the passenger seat. California Highway Patrol told the Union-Tribune that she sustained minor to moderate injuries.

"Seau was not wearing a seatbelt, per investigators..."

Though not into football, living near Oceanside, I certainly was aware of the tragedy of his brother's death. Now this for the family. However, he wasn't wearing his seatbelt!

I was fortunate to meet and break bread with him in 2016 when my wife and I visited Toronto. Since then we were connected on social media. Through that medium I got to learn about his history as a touring musician, business owner and painter. At the outset of the pandemic he organized a Zoom conference of winos that was a hell of a lot of fun and gave many forum members who hadn’t met an opportunity to match names with their faces and voices. Though I only spent about 4-1/2 hours with him, I could tell he was a very genuine person - kind, welcoming and generous. The tributes and stories I’ve seen about him on Facebook from friends, family, coworkers and others he’s affected have choked me up more than once. RIP sir, and condolences to all of your many loved ones. Your life left many positive ripples that will last a long time.

Agree with all.  Seemed like a lovely gentleman.  65 is way too young.  Perhaps we should all be a bit kinder to everyone, as you never know what they are going through.  We are all trying to make our way through life....many live much better than others.  And anyone posting here (for the most part) is living a much better life than the most.  RIP Sunnylea57.

@Rothko posted:

The 19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas.  May they have eternal peace.

Yes, this even before the victims in Buffalo and worshiping churchgoers in California have even held their memorial services for all those murdered.

This nation cannot even have closure or services for those murdered before yet another and another and another mass shooting. With polls showing overwhelming support ( 80%+) for universal background checks in multiple polls, we have a party refusing even a senate vote.

The filibuster   get rid of that and maybe  88% of the population can send a message to the jerks in DC.   This violence must end.  Why are we such a 'civilized' country, that this happens?  Canada, Japan, France Germany don't this problem.

Regular mass shootings are a uniquely American phenomenon. The US is the only developed country where mass shootings have happened every single year for the past 20 years.

Off the subject above.  I hope & pray this ends, and parents don't have to worry when their child goes to school, and  worry the child may not come home.

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@brucehayes posted:

As a Canadian, I simply can't understand.  Yes, we have had our share of mass shootings, but not with the clockwork regularity of our southern cousins.

What's to understand?  This is a country that elected Trump, even after all of the things that he did and said came out prior to the election.  We are clearly f'ed up and off-kilter as a whole.

Kind of a worrisome thing to say about a global, nuclear superpower.

@brucehayes posted:

As a Canadian, I simply can't understand.  Yes, we have had our share of mass shootings, but not with the clockwork regularity of our southern cousins.

We don’t understand it either.  In Texas you need to be 21 to buy a beer.  But a guy who just had his 18th birthday can go to a gun store, buy two AR-15 rifles, body armor and ammunition.  The guns probably cost $700 each or so. So, you own the gun store. You sell all of this to the kid.  Now 21 people including 19 children are dead.  You made a profit on the sale.  
can you sleep?

@irwin posted:

We don’t understand it either.  In Texas you need to be 21 to buy a beer.  But a guy who just had his 18th birthday can go to a gun store, buy two AR-15 rifles, body armor and ammunition.  The guns probably cost $700 each or so. So, you own the gun store. You sell all of this to the kid.  Now 21 people including 19 children are dead.  You made a profit on the sale.  
can you sleep?



that wans't a cheap gun,  they were roughyl 2500$ and 1400$.  The gun used was sold directly by Daniel Defense and transferred to a local gun store who does nothing but facilitate the transfer, the background check and they make that 75-100$ transfer fee.

The store acutally looks like it took down their gun sales.

but yea regardless, why are immature kids < 21 even allowed to buy guns in this country solo.  Ridic.  I hear the dumb argument "old enuf to join the military"   If they want to join the military to shoot guns, i'm all for it.  At least there you get the discipline/training and maturity to learn how to handle a gun.

The second argument about good guys with guns was clearly blown out of the water again.  40 cops sat around outside not going into the school.  2-5 cops engaged him outside of the school and didnt stop him from going into the school.  So non trained citizens are going to somehow do better than folks whose job it was to handle this situation?

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@irwin posted:

So how did this 18 year old have $4000+ dollars?  Makes no sense on so many levels.  
If I had kids in elementary or middle or high school, I’d be petrified for them.

I was scared shitless, my kids school went on lockdown because an hour later, someone was caught in a neighboring school district parading around with firearms.

I honestly dont understand any logic to anyone that young being able to buy a gun.  I'm also tired of the lame "mental illness" excuse.  because it begs the question how someone with mental illness is so easily able to buy a gun then?

what is even more disheartening is looking at the videos of parents being detained by the police from entering the school to try and rescue their kids.

Former University of Washington, and NFL Hall of Famer, Hugh McElhenny, 93, the Apple Cup King.

The 6-foot-1, 195-pound halfback amassed 296 rushing yards — still a UW program record — and five touchdowns on just 20 carries in a 52-21 win, the highlight being a game-ending 84-yard sprint, in 1950 against Washington State University.

@sd-wineaux posted:

Well, yes he's dead now.  But an RIP wish seems unwarranted to me.  But maybe he has a decent side to him of which I'm unaware.

Hey, how can you criticize someone with the nickname of Mom? 

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I heard that he had a remarkable cellar of mainly white Burgundies, as well as a spectacular collection of 17th Century Flemish miniature paintings.

Not sure whether that’s completely true, though.

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For those who posted regarding the passing of Sunnylea, aka Andrew Arntfield, here is an excellent obituary that really says what he was all about, IMHO.

Businessman Andrew Arntfield was always a rock musician at heart

Andrew Donald Craig Arntfield: Musician. Artist. Raptors fan. Oenophile. Born April 15, 1957, in Toronto; died Feb 6, 2022, in Toronto, of cardiac arrest; aged 64.

Andrew Arntfield was born with his parents’ passion for piano and his father’s ability to play by ear. He was a quirky kid who also loved comics and pop culture: He spent countless hours memorizing the TV Guide and every jingle to every show and commercial. (Well into his 50s, he attended Comicon in Toronto and San Diego and collected comic art until his death.)

His career path was laid at Clarkson Secondary School in Mississauga, where he founded a radio station and won the talent competition performing Billy Joel’s Piano Man. His classmates still remember the year he commandeered the school’s PA system on the last day and blasted Alice Cooper’s School’s Out for Summer.

Upon graduation, he enrolled in the Radio and Television Arts program at Ryerson (now called Toronto Metropolitan University), taking on a job at Sam the Record Man to pay the bills. He dropped out after several months to join the first of several rock bands with whom he spent the next decade crisscrossing Canada. He had small brushes with fame: the opening slot on a Steppenwolf tour, minor radio play and playing with the Lydia Taylor Band as she won a Juno. The long hours on the road built lifelong bonds with bandmates but he grew tired of the lifestyle as he got older.

In 1989, he reinvented himself by starting a graphic-design firm without one moment’s training in how to use a computer for art. He spent almost 35 years running the business that evolved into Field Day Inc., building a team as close as many families and earning big clients such as Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment and the Canadian National Exhibition.

In the early 1990s, he reunited with Patricia Kelly, the love of his life whom he’d first met as a teenager. They spent the next 30 years together. Together they ran in the Humber River valley, fervently watched Raptors games and cooked (often making enough chicken pot pie to get a small settlement through the winter). Andrew and Patricia did not have children but enjoyed the children of their extended family. Andrew liked to whip the toddlers into a frenzied excitement by chasing them around like a maniacal version of the tooth fairy. And while he looked mild-mannered, Andrew’s karaoke performances were legendary, especially his version of Mississippi Queen.

Andrew’s older brother was also his childhood idol. David was often called a big kid but the moniker fit Andrew just as well. After David’s tragic death in 2019, Andrew channelled his grief into caring for their elderly parents. During the pandemic, he set up their computer to auto-answer Facetime calls – a huge gift to the family – making it possible to connect despite his mom’s dementia, his dad’s blindness and lockdowns that confined them to their room.

In recent years, Andrew became a wine aficionado and he built tight friendships over a shared love of grapes. And no one was surprised when he discovered a hidden talent with a brush and began selling paintings across North America and participating in juried art shows.

Andrew was both generous and zealous with his passions – he mapped out each run on social media, assertively shushed those around him at concerts and transcribed every word of his grandfather’s journals onto Facebook. While he’d drop anything to help you solve a problem, you’d better be sure that you had as much energy as he did for understanding the solution to whatever mystery you’d set him on.

Andrew was a major fan of Steely Dan, but it was the 1984 take on their song Dr. Wu by the postpunk band the Minutemen that could get him on the dance floor faster than any other. Like the song that moved him, Andrew was a burst of talent, passion, precision and energy over too soon.

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Bman, thanks for posting this. I had already read it when shared on social media, but it’s good for some of the others here to see. He really was an interesting guy who didn’t seem to waste a single second of life. I’m glad to have gotten to meet him, and enjoyed occasional online correspondence and the huge zoom video call he hosted/organized at the beginning of the pandemic.

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