@flwino posted:Bad finger on iPhone
Hah! 
My boss used to call that an "F2 error". Fat Fingers.
Bob Lanier
Actor Fred Ward at 79.
Vangelis RIP. Bladder runner score and chariots of fire soundtrack and many more
@mimik posted:Vangelis RIP. Bladder runner score...
Did he also do the score for The Karate Kidney? 
Roger Angell. Perhaps the greatest baseball writer ever. Age 101.
The 19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas. May they have eternal peace.
@Rothko posted:The 19 children and 2 teachers killed in Texas. May they have eternal peace.
Yes, this even before the victims in Buffalo and worshiping churchgoers in California have even held their memorial services for all those murdered.
This nation cannot even have closure or services for those murdered before yet another and another and another mass shooting. With polls showing overwhelming support ( 80%+) for universal background checks in multiple polls, we have a party refusing even a senate vote.
The filibuster get rid of that and maybe 88% of the population can send a message to the jerks in DC. This violence must end. Why are we such a 'civilized' country, that this happens? Canada, Japan, France Germany don't this problem.
Regular mass shootings are a uniquely American phenomenon. The US is the only developed country where mass shootings have happened every single year for the past 20 years.
Off the subject above. I hope & pray this ends, and parents don't have to worry when their child goes to school, and worry the child may not come home.
As a Canadian, I simply can't understand. Yes, we have had our share of mass shootings, but not with the clockwork regularity of our southern cousins.
@brucehayes posted:As a Canadian, I simply can't understand. Yes, we have had our share of mass shootings, but not with the clockwork regularity of our southern cousins.
What's to understand? This is a country that elected Trump, even after all of the things that he did and said came out prior to the election. We are clearly f'ed up and off-kilter as a whole.
Kind of a worrisome thing to say about a global, nuclear superpower.
Actor Ray Liotta at 67.
@brucehayes posted:Actor Ray Liotta at 67.
Good actor. Passed so young
@brucehayes posted:As a Canadian, I simply can't understand. Yes, we have had our share of mass shootings, but not with the clockwork regularity of our southern cousins.
We don’t understand it either. In Texas you need to be 21 to buy a beer. But a guy who just had his 18th birthday can go to a gun store, buy two AR-15 rifles, body armor and ammunition. The guns probably cost $700 each or so. So, you own the gun store. You sell all of this to the kid. Now 21 people including 19 children are dead. You made a profit on the sale.
can you sleep?
@irwin posted:We don’t understand it either. In Texas you need to be 21 to buy a beer. But a guy who just had his 18th birthday can go to a gun store, buy two AR-15 rifles, body armor and ammunition. The guns probably cost $700 each or so. So, you own the gun store. You sell all of this to the kid. Now 21 people including 19 children are dead. You made a profit on the sale.
can you sleep?
that wans't a cheap gun, they were roughyl 2500$ and 1400$. The gun used was sold directly by Daniel Defense and transferred to a local gun store who does nothing but facilitate the transfer, the background check and they make that 75-100$ transfer fee.
The store acutally looks like it took down their gun sales.
but yea regardless, why are immature kids < 21 even allowed to buy guns in this country solo. Ridic. I hear the dumb argument "old enuf to join the military" If they want to join the military to shoot guns, i'm all for it. At least there you get the discipline/training and maturity to learn how to handle a gun.
The second argument about good guys with guns was clearly blown out of the water again. 40 cops sat around outside not going into the school. 2-5 cops engaged him outside of the school and didnt stop him from going into the school. So non trained citizens are going to somehow do better than folks whose job it was to handle this situation?
So how did this 18 year old have $4000+ dollars? Makes no sense on so many levels.
If I had kids in elementary or middle or high school, I’d be petrified for them.
@irwin posted:So how did this 18 year old have $4000+ dollars? Makes no sense on so many levels.
If I had kids in elementary or middle or high school, I’d be petrified for them.
I was scared shitless, my kids school went on lockdown because an hour later, someone was caught in a neighboring school district parading around with firearms.
I honestly dont understand any logic to anyone that young being able to buy a gun. I'm also tired of the lame "mental illness" excuse. because it begs the question how someone with mental illness is so easily able to buy a gun then?
what is even more disheartening is looking at the videos of parents being detained by the police from entering the school to try and rescue their kids.
https://slate.com/business/202...g-new-york-city.html
and just reading more and more shows the level of absurdity that is going on.
And the stupid NRA is having their convention today with a great cast of characters [clowns] Orange haired guy, gov disaster, Mex-Cruz, Abbot, but not Costello. Makes me sick. Then they claim 14 acres of guys and stuff.
Ronnie Hawkins. The Hawk. 87yo.
If you love Rock n Roll and you haven't seen The Last Waltz, watch it. He's in it.
He influenced a lot of musicians who influenced a lot of musicians. RIP.
To all of our passed soldiers, sailors, air men etc.
Sean Thackrey
RIP, Mr. Thackrey: That is a shame. His Pleiades wines were interesting blends in the day. Haven't had one for years.
Ann Turner Cook, the original Gerber foods baby, at 95.
06/06/1944
@flwino posted:06/06/1944
Operation Overlord.
Start of the end for Nazis
Jim Seals, half of the soft rock duo Seals and Crofts, at 79 or 80. Apparently sources differ on his birth year.
Character actor Philip Baker Hall at 90. You may not know the name, but you know the face.
@brucehayes posted:Character actor Philip Baker Hall at 90. You may not know the name, but you know the face.
In everything. I remember him most from Seinfeld I admit
@jcocktosten posted:In everything. I remember him most from Seinfeld I admit
Same.
Josh Jensen, founder of Calera Winery.
Philip Baker Hall, the US character actor who had a much-loved guest role in the sitcom Seinfeld, has died at the age of 90.
Mark Shields. He seemed great. RIP.
Former University of Washington, and NFL Hall of Famer, Hugh McElhenny, 93, the Apple Cup King.
The 6-foot-1, 195-pound halfback amassed 296 rushing yards — still a UW program record — and five touchdowns on just 20 carries in a 52-21 win, the highlight being a game-ending 84-yard sprint, in 1950 against Washington State University.
NFL great Tony Siragusa at 55.
ER and Ray Donovan actress Mary Mara at 61.
Sonny Barger, Hells Angels Motorcycle Club leader, at 83.