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Stepping away from a +25 year career in Financial Services senior management. Contemplating career switch to wine industry - sales, sales management, wholesale etc. $$ is always a consideration but fortunately not the primary driver. Search will begin in earnest post 1/1/08.

Have been keeping informed re qualifications, salary/commission ranges via winejobs.com. Also contemplating seasonal retail work at local wine store just to get a 'closer look'.

Lots of folks on this board with tons of expert industry experience. Any thoughts, pointers, suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
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Originally posted by cuffthis:
Consider opening a wine bar instead of being in the retail/wholesale biz.

Much more fun, selling what you want to than only selling what's in your portfolio.

A switch from a professional career to the wine biz can be done. It's working well for me since I opened my wine bar about 2 years ago, after 20+ years as a CPA.


I knew there was something wrong about you. Big Grin
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
Stepping away from a +25 year career in Financial Services senior management. Contemplating career switch to wine industry - sales, sales management, wholesale etc.


Gee, another person who thinks he's going to make a career out of his hobby. If you're succeeding at financial services, stay with it. If not, pick something else to fail at.
At one time in my life sailboats and sailboat racing were a real passion for me. For a moment I considered "getting into the business."

Conversing with several people who had taken that path made it clear that turning your passion/hobby into work destroys what you loved about it.

Fun events(like a tasting) become Industry events and will no longer be about pleasure or relaxation, just about business. Also, you start to see your friends as customers and all the dynamics change.

Of course YMMV. Best of luck in your future endeavors.

Cheers,
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
Stepping away from a +25 year career in Financial Services senior management. Contemplating career switch to wine industry - sales, sales management, wholesale etc.


Gee, another person who thinks he's going to make a career out of his hobby. If you're succeeding at financial services, stay with it. If not, pick something else to fail at.
Was dentistry ever a hobby for you.

From Marathon Man:
"Is.....it......safe..."
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
Stepping away from a +25 year career in Financial Services senior management. Contemplating career switch to wine industry - sales, sales management, wholesale etc.


Gee, another person who thinks he's going to make a career out of his hobby. If you're succeeding at financial services, stay with it. If not, pick something else to fail at.


Have ANOTHER SIP Board-O. You are a nasty, angry man. I need your half-ass comments like a hole in the head. Have something of value to add, I am all ears. Just writing to be a prick, spare me.
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
Have ANOTHER SIP Board-O.

Had nothing to drink.

You are a nasty, angry man.

Nasty, maybe. Angry, no.

I need your half-ass comments like a hole in the head. Have something of value to add, I am all ears. Just writing to be a prick, spare me.

Actually, my comments were sincere. Unless you've been a failure in your previous occupation, don't leave it for a stab at making money at your hobby. Also, I find I can make myself understood without talking like a pig. Give it a try sometime.
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
Stepping away from a +25 year career in Financial Services senior management. Contemplating career switch to wine industry - sales, sales management, wholesale etc.


Gee, another person who thinks he's going to make a career out of his hobby. If you're succeeding at financial services, stay with it. If not, pick something else to fail at.


Have ANOTHER SIP Board-O. You are a nasty, angry man. I need your half-ass comments like a hole in the head. Have something of value to add, I am all ears. Just writing to be a prick, spare me.

Smile
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
Stepping away from a +25 year career in Financial Services senior management. Contemplating career switch to wine industry - sales, sales management, wholesale etc.


Gee, another person who thinks he's going to make a career out of his hobby. If you're succeeding at financial services, stay with it. If not, pick something else to fail at.


It sounds to me like he's telling is he wants to pursue something that will make him happy after a successful career doing something else. This should be applauded. I'm reminded of the quote,"If you do something you love, you'll never work a day in your life."

Maybe Bill Gates shouldn't have dropped out of Harvard. The little nerd might have made something of himself if he hadn't dropped out to play around with computers. I mean,hell -with that Harvard degree, he'd probably be a millionaire by now.
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http://www.domainehudson.com


I recommend to evaluate selling wine to databases of targeted customers that love wine and like new wines or rare wines and they are willing to pay a few dollars more for wines they tasted on their travels or tours.

I worked for National Geographic Endeavour Cruiseship as Wine Specialist for two ocassions last year, selecting the wines from Argentina and Chile and then, organizing wine tastings onboard for the passengers travelling in Chilean Fjords and Patagonia.

90% were Americans and all of them buy their wines directly to friends that own a direct-wine sale business based on trust and confidence. Its a business that you can control with few stocks and grow depending on the size of the database.


Max Morales
andes@andeswines.com
http://www.andeswines.com
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Originally posted by Golf&Pinot Nut:
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Originally posted by bigcabguy:
Stepping away from a +25 year career in Financial Services senior management. Contemplating career switch to wine industry - sales, sales management, wholesale etc.



It sounds to me like he's telling is he wants to pursue something that will make him happy after a successful career doing something else. This should be applauded. I'm reminded of the quote,"If you do something you love, you'll never work a day in your life."


GPN: You, sir, get it...all of it. Cool
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Originally posted by Max Morales (Andes Wines):
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http://www.domainehudson.com


I recommend to evaluate selling wine to databases of targeted customers that love wine and like new wines or rare wines and they are willing to pay a few dollars more for wines they tasted on their travels or tours.

I worked for National Geographic Endeavour Cruiseship as Wine Specialist for two ocassions last year, selecting the wines from Argentina and Chile and then, organizing wine tastings onboard for the passengers travelling in Chilean Fjords and Patagonia.

90% were Americans and all of them buy their wines directly to friends that own a direct-wine sale business based on trust and confidence. Its a business that you can control with few stocks and grow depending on the size of the database.


Max Morales
andes@andeswines.com
http://www.andeswines.com


Max - never heard of this model. Will explore further - thanks.
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Originally posted by bfw:
"Was dentistry ever a hobby for you."

"Never"

Treating dentistry as a hobby would not let one drink premier wines.

Dentistry is a business through and through...I'm still trying to impress that on my girlfriend who just started work as a dentist.

bfw


"..there's teeth...and gums...and blood!. I have to get looped just to walk into my office" - Dudley Moore in Arthur.
Dear bmwl,

Just out of curiosity...hahaha...I adapted my career for the wine industry...I am an agricultural engineer and I made the wine to guide my life!!...hahaha...6 years ago I started http://www.andeswines.com and I have at least have had a lot of fun traveling, teaching and consulting about wine marketing in several countries. I write about wine business, create networking in 12 countries and lately, after pushing the market-business around, it is working pretty well on new adventures like how to put wine into other business like Nat. Geo. and their wine tastings onboard or organizing wine events in Argentina & Chile. I am an entrepreneur with more ideas and money!....so if you want to invest, write me and let´s do business!!

Max
andes@andeswines.com

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Originally posted by bmwl:
I was thinking of switching careers myself, I never thought that turning it into a career may take the fun and enjoyment out of it. I will have to give this more thought. thanks
in my last post I meant to say MORE IDEAS THAN MONEY....hahaha...so if you want to invest, write me and let´s do business!!

Max


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Originally posted by Max Morales (Andes Wines):
Dear bmwl,

Just out of curiosity...hahaha...I adapted my career for the wine industry...I am an agricultural engineer and I made the wine to guide my life!!...hahaha...6 years ago I started http://www.andeswines.com and I have at least have had a lot of fun traveling, teaching and consulting about wine marketing in several countries. I write about wine business, create networking in 12 countries and lately, after pushing the market-business around, it is working pretty well on new adventures like how to put wine into other business like Nat. Geo. and their wine tastings onboard or organizing wine events in Argentina & Chile. I am an entrepreneur with more ideas and money!....so if you want to invest, write me and let´s do business!!

Max
andes@andeswines.com

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Originally posted by bmwl:
I was thinking of switching careers myself, I never thought that turning it into a career may take the fun and enjoyment out of it. I will have to give this more thought. thanks

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