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MNEELEY490, I'm sorry for what happened to your son. There just is no evidence that autism is caused by vaccination, even with any of the now removed additives. Does this mean that vaccinations are 100% safe? Absolutely not. Any medical treatment has its side effects and some of them can be devastating. However, you can look all those up and weigh the statistics and data for yourself. But you will not find any mention of autism. This is the most recent study out of many:

Measles, Mumps, Rubella Vaccination and Autism: A Nationwide Cohort Study

The Old Man posted:
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Just started Season 3 of Glitch.  I think I know what you mean TOM.  I’m losing sight of the plot lines.

If you are going to suspend disbelief, then I’d wish they’d spend more time exploring the premise of getting a second chance.   

It's what happened to the at first interesting Mr Robot. When the second season started all I could think is, what the hell is going on?

But they ended the second season of Mr Robot pretty strongly, don't you think?

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The Old Man posted:
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Just started Season 3 of Glitch.  I think I know what you mean TOM.  I’m losing sight of the plot lines.

If you are going to suspend disbelief, then I’d wish they’d spend more time exploring the premise of getting a second chance.   

It's what happened to the at first interesting Mr Robot. When the second season started all I could think is, what the hell is going on?

But they ended the second season of Mr Robot pretty strongly, don't you think?

I don't know if this was to me, but I couldn't make it. Some of these new-fangled programs are a little to much for me to keep up with.

The greatest show on televisions (as Squirrely Dan might say), and certainly the most juvenile, is from Canada. No, not the beloved Shitt's Creek, but the demented Letterkenny. Meth heads, hockey jocks, hick farmers who never farm, and Natives all speaking this strange vernacular which requires, at least for this American, subtitles on.

The Old Man posted:

I like Bill Maher. There are a few things about him I don't like. One is his anti-science, anti-modern medicine views. Today, in his opening interview, he outed himself as an anti-vaxxer. If anyone has children in high school or college who'd like to do a report on logical fallacies, his comments could fill pages. You'd could fill a couple of pages just on his numerous straw-man arguments.

Now I'm clutching my pearls at the horror of it.

I love Bill Maher...extremely funny.

The Old Man posted:

Currently the greatest show on TV is from Canada. No, not the sublime Schitt's Creek, but Letterkenny. My friend put it best, "It's simultaneously the stupidest thing I have ever seen and the most brilliant show I've seen in a long time." That's a "hard yes."

I think even if you're from Canada it requires subtitles to be on.

I might have to give it a look. Just watching the previews have made me cringe.

We recently finished watching Mad Men and liked it a lot. Now we started Peaky Blinders which is also excellent. Great soundtrack although it's probably going to ruin Red Right Hand for me.

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The Old Man posted:

Currently the greatest show on TV is from Canada. No, not the sublime Schitt's Creek, but Letterkenny. My friend put it best, "It's simultaneously the stupidest thing I have ever seen and the most brilliant show I've seen in a long time." That's a "hard yes."

I think even if you're from Canada it requires subtitles to be on.

I might have to give it a look. Just watching the previews have made me cringe.

We recently finished watching Mad Men and liked it a lot. Now we started Peaky Blinders which is also excellent. Great soundtrack although it's probably going to ruin Red Right Hand for me.

I could not get through Peaky. Remember Letterkenny is also the stupidest show on television. Recommend Shitt's Creek perhaps first. (Break in gently into today's Canadian humor.)

The Old Man posted:

Currently the greatest show on TV is from Canada. No, not the sublime Schitt's Creek, but Letterkenny. My friend put it best, "It's simultaneously the stupidest thing I have ever seen and the most brilliant show I've seen in a long time." That's a "hard yes."

I think even if you're from Canada it requires subtitles to be on.

Letterkenny is really funny. 

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The Old Man posted:

Currently the greatest show on TV is from Canada. No, not the sublime Schitt's Creek, but Letterkenny. My friend put it best, "It's simultaneously the stupidest thing I have ever seen and the most brilliant show I've seen in a long time." That's a "hard yes."

I think even if you're from Canada it requires subtitles to be on.

Letterkenny is really funny. 

Hard yes. Ah, another person with a twisted sense of humor. 

The Old Man posted:
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The Old Man posted:

Currently the greatest show on TV is from Canada. No, not the sublime Schitt's Creek, but Letterkenny. My friend put it best, "It's simultaneously the stupidest thing I have ever seen and the most brilliant show I've seen in a long time." That's a "hard yes."

I think even if you're from Canada it requires subtitles to be on.

Letterkenny is really funny. 

Hard yes. Ah, another person with a twisted sense of humor. 

So our friends who own a local restaurant are big fans of the show.  It turned out the lead singer from the Arkells was eating with his girlfriend the other day and talk turned to the show as one of them posed as a character from it on the restaurant's social media - the guy says he is really good friends with Jared from the show and shows pics on his camera of them together.  Apparently after leaving, he came back to get my friend's phone number - the next day Jared from the show calls to thank them for being such fans of the show.  The husband doubted it was true and eventually, Jared went into character and started performing.  Anyway, apparently he is extremely nice.  How Canadian

LoraMoser posted:

TV-shows are not my favorite entertainment. I don't like them very much. But I've seen some through the years so I have a shortlist of those that I do like:

Married with children

X-files

The Twilight Zone

Seinfeld

The lost room

Black mirror

IT-crowd (UK)

Misfits

Mad men

Breaking Bad

Well, if we are going all-time:

Comedies (in descending order):

Seinfeld

Curb  (since the divorce)

Arrested Development (first 3 seasons)

Get Smart

 

Dramas (too many to list but what really sticks with me, in rough descending order, excluding GOT, which is its own thing):

The first season of Homeland

The Americans

The first 7 episodes of the first season of True Detective

The first 3 seasons of The Sopranos

The first 3 seasons of The West Wing

Dexter season 4 (Trinity Killer)

Three Days of the Condor, what a piece of shit. Redford does some interesting early films of which Three Days is the best. Other overlooked gems include include the wry The Candidate with its great ending line and the well made Downhill Racer (directed by Michael Ritchie of all people.) 

For extra credit, without looking it up, answer this question. Who was his character in his only Twilight Zone appearance, in the episode Nothing in the Dark?

PBS's NOVA "Polar Extremes" 2/5/20 release. 

I wouldn't normally recommend a single episode in this thread, but this 2 hr show kept me thoroughly engaged as it went through geologic time with the earth's climate and its drivers.  Made very good comparisons to times when CO2 levels were higher. We are currently over 400 ppm, well above the 180-300 ppm range that has existed for thousands of years during this time of inactive volcanic activity. You'll come away with a much better understanding of climate change.

The Old Man posted:

Three Days of the Condor, what a piece of shit. Redford does some interesting early films of which Three Days is the best. Other overlooked gems include include the wry The Candidate with its great ending line and the well made Downhill Racer (directed by Michael Ritchie of all people.) 

For extra credit, without looking it up, answer this question. Who was his character in his only Twilight Zone appearance, in the episode Nothing in the Dark?

Wounded Cop/Angel of Death   One of my favorites.

mneeley490 posted:
The Old Man posted:

Three Days of the Condor, what a piece of shit. Redford does some interesting early films of which Three Days is the best. Other overlooked gems include include the wry The Candidate with its great ending line and the well made Downhill Racer (directed by Michael Ritchie of all people.) 

For extra credit, without looking it up, answer this question. Who was his character in his only Twilight Zone appearance, in the episode Nothing in the Dark?

Wounded Cop/Angel of Death   One of my favorites.

Bingo bingo. And don't forget the wonderful older actress Gladys Cooper.

winetarelli posted:

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Already brilliant, so far this season is the funniest sitcom season I've seen in decades.  

I'm afraid I'm going to have to really disagree. I think there was an odd scene at the beginning of the first episode that shows the problem. No spoilers; so I'll just say it concerned a selfie stick. Many parts of this season are like that scene. It's often very forced and takes Larry's misanthropic behavior to new heights that are unbelievable even for him.

I do like that they shot more than one scene at Lunetta by Day.

I hope I did not rain on your parade.

 

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wineart 2 posted:
winetarelli posted:

Curb Your Enthusiasm

Already brilliant, so far this season is the funniest sitcom season I've seen in decades.  

I too think this is the finest season thus far in many years. 

The MAGA hat theme and the Jeff/ Weinstein storyline are hilarious imo. 

I loved the first episode, but wasn't fond of eps 2 and 3. Still haven't watched last week's yet.

sunnylea57 posted:
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Curb Your Enthusiasm

Already brilliant, so far this season is the funniest sitcom season I've seen in decades.  

I too think this is the finest season thus far in many years. 

The MAGA hat theme and the Jeff/ Weinstein storyline are hilarious imo. 

I loved the first episode, but wasn't fond of eps 2 and 3. Still haven't watched last week's yet.

Huh?  Sunny, you didn’t like the scone episode?  I thought it was hilarious. 

sunnylea57 posted:

Yeah, I'm not usually one to agree with TOM, but eps 2 and 3 felt forced. Part of the fun of the show is how Larry takes a handful of disconnected plot threads and links them all together by the end of the episode. Eps 2 and 3 just felt a bit obvious to me. I'm also tired of Susie's character.

I liked ep 4, though.

The problem is he has to come up with more and more outrageous behaviors. He's really gone too far and is often out of character.

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Good to hear about Homeland Sunny.  Saving the episodes for binge watching.

Watched Counterpart again (Seasons 1 and 2) which is now available on Amazon Prime.  Great cast.  Great series.  However There will not be a Season 3 if I remember correctly.

Best place to check for that kind of info: epguides.com

http://epguides.com/Counterpart/

You'll see at the top of the page that it's cancelled/ended.

Speaking of things I like, I'm really digging Agatha's Christie's Poirot originally from the BBC. I originally watch the first couple seasons of this when they were shown on PBS in the early 90s. However, I just couldn't get into them and dropped out. Now upon watching them again I see they are just little gems with great characterizations, locations and attention to detail. They also do something that's hard to pull off: they go far from the words of the books and yet more than keep the spirit.

David Suchot pulled off the incredible feat of performing as Hercule Poirot in adaptions of all 70 Christie short stories and novels. The includes the final Poirot book that published during her life. The book Curtain, however had actually been written 30 years earlier. She originally planned to have it published posthumously as her detective's swansong. She changed her mind and released it a year before she died.

Another reason this show is so good is the budget was always kept at a solid level and that they are only making on average only six episodes a year. A reason why Columbo is so good compared to so much episodic television is it began as a rotation show on NBC's Mystery Movie. Unlike equivalent shows of the time like I Spy and Mission Impossible which cranked out at least 26 one-hour shows a season, Columbo only averaged six 90-minutes shows.

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Finished The Outsider, produced by Jason Bateman who also acts in it and directed some episodes. It's funny my daughter's boyfriend mentioned it went a little off track in starting in episode four. This is because it's when the Stephen King's (It's adapted from his book) influence rears its banal head. However it's perhaps some the best acting I've seen in a mini-series in some time. A really fantastic cast make this worth finishing. 

Side technical note: I've have never seen a TV show, or movie, shot with such constantly shallow depth of field. It has a purpose, and it sometimes too much, but it is interesting.

Recommended.

Portrait Artist of the Year

A friend told me about this Brit SkyArts series. We’ve watched both the 2018 and 2019 editions.

The current season can be found on YouTube (search for “Portrait Artist of the year 2020”) where someone is posting each episode the morning after it airs in the UK. Two episodes to go in the current season.

Simple premise: in each episode 9 artists - some pros, some amateur - have 4 hours to paint a portrait of a celebrity sitter. Three judges then pick one artist to go on to the semi-finals. The ninth episode is the semi-final (with 8 artists), followed by the finals (with 3 artists). The winner receives a £10,000 commission to paint a celebrity portrait (the process of which is shown in episode 11). This season it will be Nile Rogers, and the portrait will hang in the Royal Albert Hall.

its a simple premise but it’s hugely compelling to see all the different approaches to portrait painting.

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Started Hunters on Amazon Prime.  It’s been great so far.  I was skeptical of Pacino, but he’s done a good job.  Nice to see Josh Radnor (How I Met Your Mother).  Some fresh faces like Jerrika Hinton and others.

Finished Season 1.  I thought it was great except for the conclusion.   

I just finished Hunters.  I agree completely with you Dom.  The conclusion was meh. But I enjoyed it up till then.  

azwiese posted:
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Started Hunters on Amazon Prime.  It’s been great so far.  I was skeptical of Pacino, but he’s done a good job.  Nice to see Josh Radnor (How I Met Your Mother).  Some fresh faces like Jerrika Hinton and others.

Finished Season 1.  I thought it was great except for the conclusion.   

I just finished Hunters.  I agree completely with you Dom.  The conclusion was meh. But I enjoyed it up till then.  

Great minds...

I just finished and agree about the conclusion. I also thought the intertwining of exploration-style filmmaking and the Holocaust sometimes didn’t work because all of the Holocaust stories were quite realistic as to what actually happened so there is a sense of almost downplaying that I felt, though obviously that was completely unintentional. That said, it was quite well acted. I thought Pacino was great. 

winetarelli posted:
azwiese posted:
doubled posted:
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Started Hunters on Amazon Prime.  It’s been great so far.  I was skeptical of Pacino, but he’s done a good job.  Nice to see Josh Radnor (How I Met Your Mother).  Some fresh faces like Jerrika Hinton and others.

Finished Season 1.  I thought it was great except for the conclusion.   

I just finished Hunters.  I agree completely with you Dom.  The conclusion was meh. But I enjoyed it up till then.  

Great minds...

I just finished and agree about the conclusion. I also thought the intertwining of exploration-style filmmaking and the Holocaust sometimes didn’t work because all of the Holocaust stories were quite realistic as to what actually happened so there is a sense of almost downplaying that I felt, though obviously that was completely unintentional. That said, it was quite well acted. I thought Pacino was great. 

Except for the made up chess game. The creator's excuse is laughable.

The Old Man posted:
winetarelli posted:

Great minds...

I just finished and agree about the conclusion. I also thought the intertwining of exploration-style filmmaking and the Holocaust sometimes didn’t work because all of the Holocaust stories were quite realistic as to what actually happened so there is a sense of almost downplaying that I felt, though obviously that was completely unintentional. That said, it was quite well acted. I thought Pacino was great. 

Except for the made up chess game. The creator's excuse is laughable.

I often wondered which of the atrocities or portrayals of the Nazi concentration camps were true and which weren't.  It's too bad they had to make one up.  

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spo posted:

Looking forward to season 3 of Fauda on Netflix.

 

I loved the first two seasons of this series.  Very happy to know that season 3 is coming soon. As someone who is a friend of several Israelis and Palestinians,  I can recommend the first 2 seasons without hesitation.  Reasonably balanced, and very well done.  Hope season 3 is equally balanced and entertaining.

PH

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billhike posted:

ESPN has announced that their series “The Last Dance”, chronicling the final year of the Michael Jordan/Bulls dynasty will start airing in April as opposed to June, the original plan. Looking forward to this greatly. 

The best brag I have is unfortunately not about myself. My best friend wrote Space Jam. When the two of us were in NY, in 2005, for Cream's final appearances we ran into the music producer for the movie. He said they really should do a sequel. 16 years later it's coming out with LeBron James in 2021. Neither of them had anything to do with Space Jam II.  That's show biz.

steve8 posted:

Watched the first season of Luther over the past few nights. A couple of episodes were a little over the top with the gore factor, but overall I like it. Episode 5 (and 6) was the stand-out.

Watched season 4 last night, all two episodes. Serious drop in quality from the first three seasons so we're done with it and will probably move on to Ozark.

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