Asking for a friend - actually, I am!  Budget is $50+

It's his wife's birthday and he wants to add a bottle of big oaky chardonnay to a long list of wines he is serving to go with an equally impressive menu.  One of the food items is butter poached shrimp and she likes her chardonnay big and buttery, he says.

 

 

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Looking at KGBO inventory in that price range, you could try the Duckhorn Napa Valley Chard @ $49.95. I'm not a fan of that style, so I've never had the Duckhorn... but if the user TNs on CT are any indication, it might fit the bill: "full bodied, oaky, toasted almonds, buttery, creamy, rich, nice and big".  Nine bottles at Bank & Walkley.

sunnylea57 posted:

Looking at KGBO inventory in that price range, you could try the Duckhorn Napa Valley Chard @ $49.95. I'm not a fan of that style, so I've never had the Duckhorn... but if the user TNs on CT are any indication, it might fit the bill: "full bodied, oaky, toasted almonds, buttery, creamy, rich, nice and big".  Nine bottles at Bank & Walkley.

Thanks, Sunnyl!

I mean... I always thought in the context of that style, Ramey SV Chards were probably better than most of their competition. I see SAQ has the Hyde vineyard for $62 US. So I guess that is $83 Canadian. I mean, for what it is...

 

Side note/sigh: You have access to Kumeu River Hunting Hill @ internationally competitive price ($42 US). But it may be too complete and balanced a wine for this person. But, I mean...

winetarelli posted:

I mean... I always thought in the context of that style, Ramey SV Chards were probably better than most of their competition. I see SAQ has the Hyde vineyard for $62 US. So I guess that is $83 Canadian. I mean, for what it is...

 

Side note/sigh: You have access to Kumeu River Hunting Hill @ internationally competitive price ($42 US). But it may be too complete and balanced a wine for this person. But, I mean...

Thanks guys, but I think he is thinking something even bigger than those, more along the lines of Rombauer chard.

 

bman posted:
winetarelli posted:

I mean... I always thought in the context of that style, Ramey SV Chards were probably better than most of their competition. I see SAQ has the Hyde vineyard for $62 US. So I guess that is $83 Canadian. I mean, for what it is...

 

Side note/sigh: You have access to Kumeu River Hunting Hill @ internationally competitive price ($42 US). But it may be too complete and balanced a wine for this person. But, I mean...

Thanks guys, but I think he is thinking something even bigger than those, more along the lines of Rombauer chard.

 

He could just add wood chips to the wine.

tusknchef posted:

BMan… a fascinating and extremely good Ontario Chardonnay by Foreign Affair.. I am drinking 12 year old vintages that are exceptional . These Chards are Barrel fermented and aged over a yr in wood.. 

Cin Cin - the Tuscan  Chef

Thanks, V!!  When are we going to see you and yours up here again?  It's been waaaaaaaaay too long!

winetarelli posted:

I mean... I always thought in the context of that style, Ramey SV Chards were probably better than most of their competition. I see SAQ has the Hyde vineyard for $62 US. So I guess that is $83 Canadian. I mean, for what it is...

 Side note/sigh: You have access to Kumeu River Hunting Hill @ internationally competitive price ($42 US). But it may be too complete and balanced a wine for this person. But, I mean...

I've never thought of the Ramey Hyde as being a big buttery & oaky chard, which is why I didn't suggest it.

steve8 posted:
winetarelli posted:

I mean... I always thought in the context of that style, Ramey SV Chards were probably better than most of their competition. I see SAQ has the Hyde vineyard for $62 US. So I guess that is $83 Canadian. I mean, for what it is...

 Side note/sigh: You have access to Kumeu River Hunting Hill @ internationally competitive price ($42 US). But it may be too complete and balanced a wine for this person. But, I mean...

I've never thought of the Ramey Hyde as being a big buttery & oaky chard, which is why I didn't suggest it.

Everything is relative. Compared to most of the Chardonnays I enjoy, it is. But almost all of the Chardonnays I chase are Burgundies. As you see, I understood the Kumeu River wines wouldn’t work here; but those are more where my palate lies. So, while I like Ramey Hyde Chards, they seem overt in fruit and oak to me. Somewhat reminiscent in style of the older Kistlers. (I hear Kistler recently changed its style but I haven’t tried one in years.)  I wasn’t knocking them. I was trying to think of a well-made wine that the description would still apply to. 😎

I think we're going to go with the Shafer Red Shoulder Ranch - thanks to all for the recommendations!

For those familiar with Play here in Ottawa, that is where we are going for the friend's wife's 60 birthday supper.  Five plates, six wines, then back to our place for a 77 Niepoort, 96 Moulin Touchais, dessert and cheese.  With luck, I'll wake up just in time for the football on Sunday!

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