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Originally posted by MassMess:

You'd better reconsider what I originally wrote, because I think that the most refined logical implications of my point were not fully... ignored...


I'm pleased to say that I, among countless others, DID ignore it.

Perhaps you could provide a brief summary of the high points of your post so that it could be ignored more quickly, for those of us whose time is limited.
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Originally posted by Seaquam:
We know the sound of two hands clapping. What is the sound of one hand clapping?


This is something that can by no means be heard with the ear. If conceptions and discriminations are not mixed within it and it is quite apart from seeing, hearing, perceiving, and knowing, and if, while walking, standing, sitting, and reclining, you proceed straightforwardly without interruption in the study of this koan, you will suddenly pluck out the karmic root of birth and death and break down the cave of ignorance. Thus you will attain to a peace in which the phoenix has left the golden net and the crane has been set free of the basket. At this time the basis of mind, consciousness, and emotion is suddenly shattered; the realm of illusion with its endless sinking in the cycle of birth and death is overturned. The treasure accumulation of the Three Bodies and the Four Wisdoms is taken away, and the miraculous realms of the Six Supernatural Powers and Three Insights is transcended.
Speaking of lunch...

An Italian, a Mexican, and a Redneck constuction worker all sat down one day to eat their lunch on top of a building they were working on.

The Italian opens his lunch and looks in and says, "Pastrami again! If I get pastrami one more day, I'm gonna jump off this building."

The Mexican opens his lunch and says, "Tamales again! If I get tamales one more day, I am gonna jump off this building."

The Redneck opens his lunch and says, "Peanut butter and jelly again! If I get peanut butter and jelly one more day, I am gonna jump off this building."

The next day at lunch, the Italian opens his lunch and finds pastrami, so he jumps off the building.

The Mexican opens his lunch and finds tamales, so he jumps off the building.

The Redneck opens his lunch and finds peanut butter and jelly, so he jumps off the building.

Later, at the funeral the Italian's wife cries out, "I didn't know he disliked pastrami so much!"

The Mexican's wife cries out, "I wish I knew he was so sick of tamales!"

The redneck wife says, "Hey, don't look at me, he always fixed his own lunch!"

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