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PGA Atlanta Athletic Club

S scbeermanMember
The season's final major, dubbed "Glory's Last Chance" will be held this week at the Atlanta Athletic club. This course, which has been extended to over 7,600 yards, has previously hosted the 76 US Open as well as the 81 and 01 PGAs.

While it is impossible to predict a winner, I like the long hitters. Players that have done well at Quail Hollow and Augusta may be well suited here. The three previous major winners, Jerry Pate, Larry Nelson and David Toms, were all southerners who adapted to the heat and conditions. Zach Johnson may be one to watch as he tends to win in Georgia.

There are many storylines occuring, so it should be fun.
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S scbeermanMember
I have heard that Oklahoma/North Texas is brutal in the summer.

An Adam Scott win at the PGA would be great for the game. Scott is a nice, almost too nice, guy who is very marketable. Although no player has ever won a major with the long putter, Scott was in the mix late at Augusta earlier this year. While caddies role may be over stated, Stevie is kind of a game day coach type who could make the difference this week.
D domnvinsdadMember
I don't know. Seems that Tiger really treated Williams poorly. Yes, I know, Tiger put millions into his bank account, blah, blah, blah.

But when somebody you have worked tirelessly for, been extremely loyal to, stuck with even though you have had other offers during difficult times, out of nowhere says, "time to go", you get a little pissed, no? And yes, I am working DnVsMom's situation into yet another thread. Wink
W wine+artMember
quote:
Originally posted by billhike:
Tiger handled the situation well with his comments today. Williams, after a BS "apology" made another statement about it being his most exciting win ever - he is coming of as an ungrateful jag.


Little Stevie has a blog, a website, wears logos on his shirts, et al., and why? BECAUSE Tiger picked him over Fluff. Does Fluff have a blog, website or anything else other than what Jim pays him...NO.

Little Stevie stole the spotlight from Adam...THE PERSON that won the tournament. He should kiss the ring of Tiger for his bank account, just like every other golfer and caddy playing today.

The entire golf world is making FAR more money that ever imagined because of Tiger.

Grrr. Mad
glennkglennkMember
quote:
Originally posted by wine+art:
The entire golf world is making FAR more money that ever imagined because of Tiger.
I totally agree, and I hope he is in contention all week as it does make the tournament more exciting. That said, I hope he losses on the last hole because he is such a bad sport/A-hole/child that I don’t want to see him win. Big Grin
purplehazepurplehazeMember
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Originally posted by GlennK:
..... That said, I hope he losses on the last hole because he is such a bad sport/A-hole/child that I don’t want to see him win. Big Grin


I hear you. I really have a love/hate thing for Tiger lately. You'd think after all he's been through that he'd get a PR clue, but there is an underlying arrogance with him that probably will never abate. It's part of what made him great, I imagine. Not doing him much good lately, on or off the course.

PH
S scbeermanMember
It was Tiger's highest first round ever in a major at seven over 77. The only one that I remember that was worse was the 81 in the wind and rain at Muirfield in the Open several years ago.

As of now, a couple of Wisconsin guys, Stricker and Kelly, braving the heat and doing well. As popular as Darren Clarke's win was at the Open Championship, a Stricker win would be just as popular.
G gigabitMember
quote:
Originally posted by GlennK:
quote:
Originally posted by wine+art:
The entire golf world is making FAR more money that ever imagined because of Tiger.
I totally agree, and I hope he is in contention all week as it does make the tournament more exciting. That said, I hope he losses on the last hole because he is such a bad sport/A-hole/child that I don’t want to see him win. Big Grin

I'd like to see Tiger keep playing. Golf is significantly more compelling when he is in contention, and nobody in golf history has moved the ratings needle like him.

Unfortunately, it looks like he just missed the cut.

I find it fascinating that a person that seemingly had control over everything, now cannot control anything. Well, anything but another disingenuous press conference or interview.
T thistlintomMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
WOW. Eek

I have been in a BOD meeting all day... 77?

I need to check this out.


Saw some analysis of Tiger's swing on the Golf Channel. Tiger has some major swing problems. He is really dropping down and crouching when he is in his downswing, then he starts standing up as he hits the ball. He is not keeping a proper position through his swing, really stunning. Until he fixes that, he is not going to be close to the Tiger of old.

Regarding the Steve Williams thing. Maybe Tiger could have handled it better, but if Tiger is not comfortable with him, whether it is because Tiger "has to earn back his respect" from Williams or because Williams wife is close to Elin, Tiger has the right to change caddies. Tiger made a point to meet him face to face and has managed it well after it became public and Stevie mouthed off a bit.

Williams needs to shut up and fade into the background. He is just a caddie (albeit a good one), he doesn't make the final decisions or hit the ball, the player does. To take the limelight away from Adam Scott is wrong and stupid. It was not Stevies win, it was Adam's.

I've been a fan of Tiger and appreciate his talents, I am less of a fan of his now, but I hope he gets his sh@t back together, it will be good for the game.
mangiaremangiareMember
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Originally posted by scbeerman:
As much as I want an American to win, it is looking like a fluke champion. I am not impressed with this course. It looks like a long, hard course with a lot of water.


Scbeerman, I would have to disagree. I'm not sure of your handicap but the pros are "the pros". Personally, I wouldn't like to play this course from the tips but I don't play golf for a living.

Professionals should be challenged to this extent. It makes for some very interesting golf. I always think it's kind of a farce when the the field is 20+ strokes below par.
S scbeermanMember
My handicap is 9 and my index is 7.7. I have played 15 to 20 courses ranked in the top 100 in the US or world, so I know what a great course looks like. While the course was a great test for the professionals, emphasizing ball striking, it lacked defining architectural features. However, to each his own on what is a good course.

I was wrong on the quality of the champion. I think that Keegan Bradley is going to have a good career. To come back from a triple to make two "are you serious" birdies was special. The guy hit a driver, seven iron on a 560 yard par 5 to three feet for eagle. WOW! We were treated to drama of high nature. Maybe we have a new American star.
J jesseixMember
I'm starting a collection for Jason Dufner... poor guy is going to need many many bottles to get over this day. Definitely all the credit in the world to Keegan Bradley for going birdie-birdie coming off the triple and keeping the pressure on, but you really have to feel for Dufner. He's going to need the number of Van De Velde's shrink...
mangiaremangiareMember
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Originally posted by scbeerman:
My handicap is 9 and my index is 7.7. I have played 15 to 20 courses ranked in the top 100 in the US or world, so I know what a great course looks like. While the course was a great test for the professionals, emphasizing ball striking, it lacked defining architectural features. However, to each his own on what is a good course.

I misinterpreted your initial comments. Totally agree. It was a great test but definitely lacked architecturally.

I was wrong on the quality of the champion. I think that Keegan Bradley is going to have a good career. To come back from a triple to make two "are you serious" birdies was special. The guy hit a driver, seven iron on a 560 yard par 5 to three feet for eagle. WOW! We were treated to drama of high nature. Maybe we have a new American star.

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