Your comments are likely tongue in cheek, but the fact that this survey has received so little attention and is so obscurely hard to find (thank you Vinelouse!), makes me think every response matters. Every wine lover in Ontario who has an opinion about the LCBO should take the time to fill this out. And don't think for a second that the union hasn't instructed every single one of their members to complete the survey with glowing satisfaction ratings about the current system. Counteract those responses! 

Can someone on CT (and any other forums) please post the survey link there?

csm posted:
otw posted:

Seems like you can submit surveys as many times as you like.  It's quite an amateur effort.

or par for the course when dealing with the KGBO.  

LOL, I was going to say the same thing... LCBO's IT systems is ~15 years behind normal businesses of similar size.  However,  it's easy to know the IP address through which you connect unless you're hidden behind a corporate network, VPN or proxy, so they likely can do some basic "filtering" of results if they give a damn.

I'd say something about how anally strict they are at the Lewiston border (as compared, for example, to Pearson), but I suppose they won't care much about Customs strictly following the law...then again if I got a speeding ticket for going 101 in a 100 zone I'd be pretty pissed off.

Just crossed at Lewiston yesterday.  Away for 14 days.  Me and gf and her two kids.  Total goods of $2,000, with 12 bottles of wine accounting for $1,950 of that.  Everything honestly declared, receipts in hand.  The $800 per person duty limit applies to kids as well as adults, but kids can't bring back 2 bottles of wine because they can't legally use it.  Female customs officer...ugh, always bad luck with them.  Away for 2 weeks total duty-free limit of $3,200 for the four of us, two 7 year olds in the back seat half asleep, and not only does she tell me "you have to pay duty on 8 bottles" but she flags us for a search.  Zero break on paying duty, $650 paid.  Guards came to the car after I paid, asked to see the wine, looked at the sealed wine shipper, said jokingly to each other "well it doesn't look like he could have more than 12 bottles in there" and said have a nice day.  If I flew in through Pearson I likely would have been charged a tiny amount or just waved through.  Last two times through Pearson with many more bottles I was treated much differently and given huge breaks on duties payable...stupid expensive hobby lol

machine posted:

I'd say something about how anally strict they are at the Lewiston border (as compared, for example, to Pearson), but I suppose they won't care much about Customs strictly following the law...then again if I got a speeding ticket for going 101 in a 100 zone I'd be pretty pissed off.

Just crossed at Lewiston yesterday.  Away for 14 days.  Me and gf and her two kids.  Total goods of $2,000, with 12 bottles of wine accounting for $1,950 of that.  Everything honestly declared, receipts in hand.  The $800 per person duty limit applies to kids as well as adults, but kids can't bring back 2 bottles of wine because they can't legally use it.  Female customs officer...ugh, always bad luck with them.  Away for 2 weeks total duty-free limit of $3,200 for the four of us, two 7 year olds in the back seat half asleep, and not only does she tell me "you have to pay duty on 8 bottles" but she flags us for a search.  Zero break on paying duty, $650 paid.  Guards came to the car after I paid, asked to see the wine, looked at the sealed wine shipper, said jokingly to each other "well it doesn't look like he could have more than 12 bottles in there" and said have a nice day.  If I flew in through Pearson I likely would have been charged a tiny amount or just waved through.  Last two times through Pearson with many more bottles I was treated much differently and given huge breaks on duties payable...stupid expensive hobby lol

We cross back and forth a few times a year at thousand Islands or Ogdensburg, two of the sleepier crossings, and get referred to Secondary maybe half the time.  We rarely have more than 2 or 3 bottles over our limit and I try to ensure that those bottles are not as pricey as the others.  Rarely get waived through with even those few extra bottles at Lewiston or Fort Erie.  

machine posted:

I'd say something about how anally strict they are at the Lewiston border (as compared, for example, to Pearson), but I suppose they won't care much about Customs strictly following the law...then again if I got a speeding ticket for going 101 in a 100 zone I'd be pretty pissed off.

Just crossed at Lewiston yesterday.  Away for 14 days.  Me and gf and her two kids.  Total goods of $2,000, with 12 bottles of wine accounting for $1,950 of that.  Everything honestly declared, receipts in hand.  The $800 per person duty limit applies to kids as well as adults, but kids can't bring back 2 bottles of wine because they can't legally use it.  Female customs officer...ugh, always bad luck with them.  Away for 2 weeks total duty-free limit of $3,200 for the four of us, two 7 year olds in the back seat half asleep, and not only does she tell me "you have to pay duty on 8 bottles" but she flags us for a search.  Zero break on paying duty, $650 paid.  Guards came to the car after I paid, asked to see the wine, looked at the sealed wine shipper, said jokingly to each other "well it doesn't look like he could have more than 12 bottles in there" and said have a nice day.  If I flew in through Pearson I likely would have been charged a tiny amount or just waved through.  Last two times through Pearson with many more bottles I was treated much differently and given huge breaks on duties payable...stupid expensive hobby lol

I don't buy in the states anymore because of this..unless its under the allowance or I can get a friend to bring it back for me...

 

Machine work on your charm! It might come in handy at these crossings..

abryce posted:
machine posted:

I'd say something about how anally strict they are at the Lewiston border (as compared, for example, to Pearson), but I suppose they won't care much about Customs strictly following the law...then again if I got a speeding ticket for going 101 in a 100 zone I'd be pretty pissed off.

Just crossed at Lewiston yesterday.  Away for 14 days.  Me and gf and her two kids.  Total goods of $2,000, with 12 bottles of wine accounting for $1,950 of that.  Everything honestly declared, receipts in hand.  The $800 per person duty limit applies to kids as well as adults, but kids can't bring back 2 bottles of wine because they can't legally use it.  Female customs officer...ugh, always bad luck with them.  Away for 2 weeks total duty-free limit of $3,200 for the four of us, two 7 year olds in the back seat half asleep, and not only does she tell me "you have to pay duty on 8 bottles" but she flags us for a search.  Zero break on paying duty, $650 paid.  Guards came to the car after I paid, asked to see the wine, looked at the sealed wine shipper, said jokingly to each other "well it doesn't look like he could have more than 12 bottles in there" and said have a nice day.  If I flew in through Pearson I likely would have been charged a tiny amount or just waved through.  Last two times through Pearson with many more bottles I was treated much differently and given huge breaks on duties payable...stupid expensive hobby lol

I don't buy in the states anymore because of this..unless its under the allowance or I can get a friend to bring it back for me...

 

Machine work on your charm! It might come in handy at these crossings..

(in my best Chandler Bing voice.......)

""could he BE more charming??!!" 

ha...at least I saved duty on 4 bottles, and flying to Toronto instead of to Buffalo would have probably cost me $650 more in any event.  Still annoying; either Customs at Pearson isn't following policy or customs at Lewiston isn't; if there is no discretion than so be it; if there is discretion, then F U to Lewiston customs, and biotch crossing guard who flagged us for search in these circumstances; at least the officers who came to the car realized immediately that their time was being wasted.

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