It's very noticeable that with one of the biggest sporting events in the world over the weekend that no US poster has mentioned it.
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Wonder why! 
Congrats, by the way!
PH
Congrats, by the way!PH
US did horrible.
Terrible.
And while I wish the US did win, it doesn't bother me too much that we lost. What bothers me is the attitude of people like Sergio. He was so happy to beat the US. However, where does this f'ing guy make all his money? He makes it on the PGA tour... not the European tour.
Sorry, but that type of crap bothers me. Same thing with other sports stars and olympics, etc. They come here, to American universities, or to be trained in America... only to go back to their native country to perform. And they like nothing more than to beat the US. I don't mind when they do; what I mind is when they have attitudes like Sergio did. Almost like rubbing it in.
Hey, f'er!!! You'd be nowhere if you weren't playing in, and/or trained in America.
And while I wish the US did win, it doesn't bother me too much that we lost. What bothers me is the attitude of people like Sergio. He was so happy to beat the US. However, where does this f'ing guy make all his money? He makes it on the PGA tour... not the European tour.
Sorry, but that type of crap bothers me. Same thing with other sports stars and olympics, etc. They come here, to American universities, or to be trained in America... only to go back to their native country to perform. And they like nothing more than to beat the US. I don't mind when they do; what I mind is when they have attitudes like Sergio did. Almost like rubbing it in.
Hey, f'er!!! You'd be nowhere if you weren't playing in, and/or trained in America.
Damn, mwagner. 
Everyone likes to kick the big guy's ass. It's just a fact of life.
And remember our premature celebration at Brookline. There was PLENTY of exuberence and whooping and hollering that I'm sure was tough to be on the opposite end of for the Europeans.
I just hope we can field a competitive team next time around. I'm certainlly NOT glad I got up early on Sunday morning this week!
PH
Everyone likes to kick the big guy's ass. It's just a fact of life.And remember our premature celebration at Brookline. There was PLENTY of exuberence and whooping and hollering that I'm sure was tough to be on the opposite end of for the Europeans.
I just hope we can field a competitive team next time around. I'm certainlly NOT glad I got up early on Sunday morning this week!
PH
As an experienced tournament player, I think Lehman should have given more chances to Scott Verplank playing in foursome before Sunday. Foursome is very different. He is a very fiery competitor,good team-player, and he really understands the flowing of matchplay than anyone else. Too bad he was given only the one chance to play on Sunday which was ended up perfect win.
KillerB:
The reason we didn't say anything is that we are still drinking to forget.
By the way, the Ryder cup was too much for Byron Nelson, who died today at age 94.
The reason we didn't say anything is that we are still drinking to forget.
By the way, the Ryder cup was too much for Byron Nelson, who died today at age 94.
Sorry to hear about Byron Nelson - but 94 is a pretty good innings.
mwagner - the US tour is part of the problem - too much money, not enough competition. Sergio made money on the US tour yet still qualified via the World rankings: he worked very hard to get on the team. If the Americans (top three excluded) worked as hard as Sergio then it would not have been a walkover. Surely, you cannot complain that somebody makes their money on the US tour but still qualifies for Europe - surely that is against everything that your country stands for! Maybe the US golfers could think about working as hard. Sergio is a great golfer, Spanish and proud of it, European and proud of it.
What do you want, only Americans can play on the US tour, so that you have a bunch of fat Milwaulkians instead of great, athletic Spaniards competing for the events? This is the only sport where individuals cannot compete openly so that they can qualify for their country (or in this case continent). Sorry, but this is the weakest argument against a defeat that I've ever heard - and I know that you're a good guy!
Garcia is World number 6 and European - who do you want him to play for? Three of the four grand slam events are American, I promise you that Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Ireland, Portugal and Sweden have every right to claim one. Don't claim that the money is King because other sports show otherwise: the New York Cosmos are still not World Champions.
mwagner - the US tour is part of the problem - too much money, not enough competition. Sergio made money on the US tour yet still qualified via the World rankings: he worked very hard to get on the team. If the Americans (top three excluded) worked as hard as Sergio then it would not have been a walkover. Surely, you cannot complain that somebody makes their money on the US tour but still qualifies for Europe - surely that is against everything that your country stands for! Maybe the US golfers could think about working as hard. Sergio is a great golfer, Spanish and proud of it, European and proud of it.
What do you want, only Americans can play on the US tour, so that you have a bunch of fat Milwaulkians instead of great, athletic Spaniards competing for the events? This is the only sport where individuals cannot compete openly so that they can qualify for their country (or in this case continent). Sorry, but this is the weakest argument against a defeat that I've ever heard - and I know that you're a good guy!
Garcia is World number 6 and European - who do you want him to play for? Three of the four grand slam events are American, I promise you that Italy, Germany, France, Spain, Ireland, Portugal and Sweden have every right to claim one. Don't claim that the money is King because other sports show otherwise: the New York Cosmos are still not World Champions.
No, I'm not saying that. In fact, I like Sergio, and I don't mind when the US is defeated by others (usually).
What irks (sp?) me is when they train/make all their money here and then act like poor sports when they defeat us in international competition. And the same would be true if rolls were reversed. If (say) Tiger was trained in Scotland, but then played on a US team that won the Ryder Cup and rubbed it in to Scotland. I just don't approve of that type of behavior.
What irks (sp?) me is when they train/make all their money here and then act like poor sports when they defeat us in international competition. And the same would be true if rolls were reversed. If (say) Tiger was trained in Scotland, but then played on a US team that won the Ryder Cup and rubbed it in to Scotland. I just don't approve of that type of behavior.
So are you saying Sergio shouldn't be able to celebrate? That's what you do when you win. And that's why the Europions do win. Passion. They care. The Americans are just looking for the next $1,000,000 check.
quote:Sorry, but that type of crap bothers me. Same thing with other sports stars and olympics, etc. They come here, to American universities, or to be trained in America... only to go back to their native country to perform. And they like nothing more than to beat the US. I don't mind when they do; what I mind is when they have attitudes like Sergio did. Almost like rubbing it in.
mwagner,
Correct me if I'm wrong here...but...don't U.S. universities and colleges recruit athletes outside the U.S. with part-ride / full-ride scholarships to compete for them?
...And, as far as foreign athletes training in the U.S. ...don't they pay for that themselves (ie. private coaching and facility rentals)?
And finally...Don't professional golf tournament sponsors in the U.S. (who pay the ticket $$$) want the best golfers in the world to participate in their events?
For the record...I'm not a huge Sergio fan either...but I did bet my wife that Europe would win.
