Not enough Bordeaux by the glass?

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Originally posted by ppierce:
Seems that there are a lot of nice Bordeaux's out there in the $20-$25 range.

There are?

Isn't there a sentence right after that?

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Originally posted by ppierce:
Seems that there are a lot of nice Bordeaux's out there in the $20-$25 range. By nice I mean far superior then $20-$25 Cali Cabs.

Ok, you're right. There are?

We drank a $16 Bordeaux last night that wasn't 90 points, but probably 84-88. The other reviews I've read for this wine were terrible, so maybe we just got a good bottle, but I don't know. It was a 2004 Château Bonnet Bordeaux. Other $15ish Bordeaux we've gotten lucky with this week have been the 2002 Château Puy Arnaud Maureze and the 2005 Château Vieilles Souches. Again, not 90 plus point wines, but great, affordable daily drinkers. I have no problem buying a $20-$25 Bordeaux and thinking it's absolutely horrible, but most of the time they are all drinkable, and more than 1/2 are even enjoyable. The last 2000 Château Malmaison we had was outstanding and I need to go get some more. I sure would love to be able to drink a first growth on a daily basis, hell, even a weekly or monthly basis, but that is just not reasonable or feasible. And I'd hate to be opening the first growths that we do have because none of them are ready to drink.

Check out THIS thread for more affordable Bordeaux that people suggested to me.

-mJ

I'd take this a step further -- there are hardly ever good QPR Bordeaux on restaurant wine lists period, much less poured by the glass. This is a frequent rant of mine. Wines like 2003 de Fonbel, Fombrauge, Pipeau, La Vieille Cure, Reignac, etc. would be the perfect thing for a restaurant list. $40-70 on a restaurant list, capable of being opened early, good with food, interesting, etc.

But you almost never see that. Instead, it's an unholy mix of hyper-expensive trophy names, off vintages, insane markups, wines way too young to open, etc. As a result, I've almost never ordered Bordeaux off a restaurant list in the U.S. as a result. I've hardly ever even seen a decent Bordeaux offered by the glass anywhere.

Language police checking in. I'm pretty sure the plural of Bordeaux is Bordeaux. I'm 100% sure it ain't Bordeaux's.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

PH

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I'm 100% sure it ain't Bordeaux's.

"ain't"??

Just busting you PurpleHaze. I know you did it on purpose....

Ain't is a word. Bordeaux's ain't.

I have found that restaurants that are serious about their programs usually have a reasonably balanced selection of wines by the glass representing many regions.

Restaurants that are not, tend to open recognizable and easy to turn brands to avoid the possibility of having to dump unfamiliar or unpopular options.

PH

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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Ain't is a word. Bordeaux's ain't.
PH

That is true. Actually, the 's ending on a singular noun indicates a possessive, not a plural.

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Originally posted by Keeno:

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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Ain't is a word. Bordeaux's ain't.
PH

That is true. Actually, the 's ending on a singular noun indicates a possessive, not a plural.

Yes, great point. Every time I see a farmhouse produce stand indicating that they sell "home grown tomato's," I want to head to the local five and dime for a bucket of white paint and a copy of "Rules for Writers."

I made my spelling change just for you PH!

-mJ

I'm really into the 2005 Ch. Saint-Hilaire as a daily drinker, which (I think) is unoaked. I'll take lack of complexity over high alcohol/flabby/woody any day.

I still would have a problem paying $12 for a glass of it when the bottle is $16.

Allez Allez!!!

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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
Language police checking in. I'm pretty sure the plural of Bordeaux is Bordeaux. I'm 100% sure it ain't Bordeaux's.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

PH

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Not enough Bordeaux by the glass?

We are fortunate that the Bordelais will even sell it by the bottle! And that's why I no longer collect Bordeaux. But that's okay, the Bordelais priced themselves out of my market!

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Originally posted by latour67:

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Not enough Bordeaux by the glass?

We are fortunate that the Bordelais will even sell it by the bottle! And that's why I no longer collect Bordeaux. But that's okay, the Bordelais priced themselves out of my market!

latour,

When we finally offline I'm bringing Bordeaux.

Also, I still know I have the '97 Pahlmeyer for you... just need to find it.