board-o posted:
Rothko posted:

Pale Rider

Clint's greatest movie, IMO

Although I liked it, I thought it was too derivative of High Plains Drifter.

mneeley490 posted:
board-o posted:
Rothko posted:

Pale Rider

Clint's greatest movie, IMO

Although I liked it, I thought it was too derivative of High Plains Drifter.

Forget that, it is a virtual remake of Shane without attribution. I like it but . . .  The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is a million times better.

jcocktosten posted:
mneeley490 posted:
board-o posted:
Rothko posted:

Pale Rider

Clint's greatest movie, IMO

Although I liked it, I thought it was too derivative of High Plains Drifter.

Forget that, it is a virtual remake of Shane without attribution. I like it but . . .  The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is a million times better.

Make my day and get off my lawn!!

Rothko posted:

Do you know, I've never seen The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

Got to put that on my list.

It is a very long film, but Sergio Leone  was a brilliant director (Once upon a Time in the West is an all time favorite of mine) - his use of the camera and the scores of Ennio Morricone are incomparable to me although I am no expert.  Final scene of G, B and U is simply amazing.

jcocktosten posted:
Rothko posted:

Do you know, I've never seen The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

Got to put that on my list.

It is a very long film, but Sergio Leone  was a brilliant director (Once upon a Time in the West is an all time favorite of mine) - his use of the camera and the scores of Ennio Morricone are incomparable to me although I am no expert.  Final scene of G, B and U is simply amazing.

G, B, and the U. is easily the best Leone with Eastwood. Leone's best movie, and one of the top five westerns, is certainly Once Upon a Time in the West. However I think Eastwood's own Unforgiven is in the top three westerns of all time. I put only The Searchers and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance ahead of it.

theoldman posted:
jcocktosten posted:
Rothko posted:

Do you know, I've never seen The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

Got to put that on my list.

It is a very long film, but Sergio Leone  was a brilliant director (Once upon a Time in the West is an all time favorite of mine) - his use of the camera and the scores of Ennio Morricone are incomparable to me although I am no expert.  Final scene of G, B and U is simply amazing.

G, B, and the U. is easily the best Leone with Eastwood. Leone's best movie, and one of the top five westerns, is certainly Once Upon a Time in the West. However I think Eastwood's own Unforgiven is in the top three westerns of all time. I put only The Searchers and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance ahead of it.

Have not seen Liberty Valance since I was a teenager probably.  Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne and Lee Marvin if I recall - 

jcocktosten posted:

Have not seen Liberty Valance since I was a teenager probably.  Jimmy Stewart, John Wayne and Lee Marvin if I recall - 

Marvin in his most snarling bad guy role ever. What makes the movie so interesting is its undermining of the old west myth by the director who practically single-handedly invented the western. Also unusual is the film doesn't make this point until almost the very end of the movie with an unexpected surprise. Eastwood, the two most famous western actor after John Wayne, also does myth-busting in Unforgiven. William Munny, "It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. You take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have."

jcocktosten posted:
mneeley490 posted:
board-o posted:
Rothko posted:

Pale Rider

Clint's greatest movie, IMO

Although I liked it, I thought it was too derivative of High Plains Drifter.

Forget that, it is a virtual remake of Shane without attribution. I like it but . . .  The Good, the Bad and the Ugly is a million times better.

Wow, do we ever disagree! I hated the spaghetti westerns.

theoldman posted:
jcocktosten posted:
Rothko posted:

Do you know, I've never seen The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly.

Got to put that on my list.

It is a very long film, but Sergio Leone  was a brilliant director (Once upon a Time in the West is an all time favorite of mine) - his use of the camera and the scores of Ennio Morricone are incomparable to me although I am no expert.  Final scene of G, B and U is simply amazing.

G, B, and the U. is easily the best Leone with Eastwood. Leone's best movie, and one of the top five westerns, is certainly Once Upon a Time in the West. However I think Eastwood's own Unforgiven is in the top three westerns of all time. I put only The Searchers and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance ahead of it.

Intellectually, I know Unforgiven is probably Clint’s best film. But I’m not a huge western fan. Although the film’s greatness rests on the the shoulders of Malkovitch, In the Line of Fire is my *favorite* film starring Eastwood. 

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Genres mean nothing to me. Western, spaghetti western, sports films; they're all movies to me. They are useful perhaps in categorizing say the best western, but I do not seek out genres. I look for great movies and they come in all varieties. My top ten has a science fiction movie, a samurai movie, a film in medieval Sweden, and black comedy and a film about a newspaper owner.

I do not think that The Searchers is a great western or great John Wayne movie. It's just a great film. And speaking of Wayne I also don't think about my favorite actors. I have none, I have favorite movies which if they've been cast right it doesn't matter who the actor is--they are simply the best choice for the part. As example take Adam Sandler's (please!) one awful movie after another. But when the right director puts him into the right movie you wind up with PT Anderson's wonderful Punch Drunk Love.

TOM, good post.

Genre, hmm. I’m all in on if it is a great film it is a great film. Period. That said, I do enjoy certain genres more than others so I tend to seek those genres and avoid others without a compelling reason.

Actors. Hmm, again. I do have actors I enjoy FAR more than others. I think it is because of the material they select. There are actors I fully acknowledge are excellent in their craft but in general I don’t like the scripts they select. DDL is a perfect example for me. He is at the top of his craft yet none of his films are in my top whatever. 

wineart 2 posted:

Actors. Hmm, again. I do have actors I enjoy FAR more than others. 

Hmm, as long as you're using initials I'm betting one of them would be CG.

Saw RBG yesterday.  This is the documentary about Justice Ginsburg.  Quite good.  Should be in the running for best documentary next year at the Oscars.  
The movie was well balanced as to her personal life and professional life.

 

wineart 2 posted:

DDL is a perfect example for me. He is at the top of his craft yet none of his films are in my top whatever. 

DDL is my favorite actor and I watch his films partially just to see his craft.  He has been in plenty of films I’ve really liked, in part due to his performance.  But... even though it might not immediately cross one’s mind, he does have a significant role in one of my favorite films of all time: A Room With a View.

Kingsman, the golden circle. A movie I have read nothing about. A long and funny appearance by Elton John, Country Road played by bagpipes, hilarious. For those here on the Forum who are interested in the current state of US politics (I think there are a few) it's worth watching for the depiction of the fictional (or not!) POTUS.

Animal House - it was only recently that I realized that the Mayor's daughter in this movie is Noonan's girlfriend in Caddyshack.

The Post

Watched it on a flight yesterday. Enjoyed it, found it well acted and fairly powerful. A few scenes were too obvious, but those did not bother me enough to think negatively of the film. 

 

wineart 2 posted:

TOM, that would be the great CG, thank you very much.

I enjoy Crispin Glover as well but I wouldn't call him great. Or were you talking about the great Christopher Guest, AKA Lord Hayden-Guest AKA Mr. Jamie-Lee Curtis?

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robsutherland posted:
wineart 2 posted:

TOM, that would be the great CG, thank you very much.

I enjoy Crispin Glover as well but I wouldn't call him great. Or were you talking about the great Christopher Guest, AKA Lord Hayden-Guest AKA Mr. Jamie-Lee Curtis?

I assumed it was Cary Grant.

seaquam posted:
robsutherland posted:
wineart 2 posted:

TOM, that would be the great CG, thank you very much.

I enjoy Crispin Glover as well but I wouldn't call him great. Or were you talking about the great Christopher Guest, AKA Lord Hayden-Guest AKA Mr. Jamie-Lee Curtis?

I assumed it was Cary Grant.

Probably fits better than Clark Gable. I still think Christopher Guest is great though. 

Blockers

I laughed many times and a couple of times quite heartily. And I liked that the film didn’t portray 17/18 yo girls as “innocent” or guys of the same age as assholes. I love Leslie Mann and she was good. As was John Cena and one of the girls.  The plot was a little weird to me (parents trying to stop their daughters from having sex on prom night) and led to scenes of obvious moralizing and clunky tonal shifts from raunchy humor to sentimentality. Some of the gross out humor was a bit much for me. But overall a nice way to spend 1:38.  Worth seeing for the comedy. B-/B

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Justice League 

Look. I’ll watch anything with Gal Godot but this is not a great film. It is fine for like a plane ride or something. In that realm. There is a sequence shot obviously inspired by LOTR but in so doing just reminds how mediocre a film it is. 

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