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Originally posted by irwin:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Argo.... It is a very good to excellent film to be sure, but comparing it to the best films of my teenage years (Pulp Fiction, Shakespeare in Love, The Usual Suspects, Fargo, etc) it doesn't measure up.


Your teenage years? Holy cow, I feel old.


Yep. Pulp Fiction came out when I was 14. So, when you consider that period of time and just following it, in movies, that was high school for me. Cinema was huge. And the movies that teenagers all lined up for back then weren't the big special-effects-y nonsense, you see now. It was The English Patient and Fargo.
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by irwin:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Argo.... It is a very good to excellent film to be sure, but comparing it to the best films of my teenage years (Pulp Fiction, Shakespeare in Love, The Usual Suspects, Fargo, etc) it doesn't measure up.


Your teenage years? Holy cow, I feel old.


Yep. Pulp Fiction came out when I was 14. So, when you consider that period of time and just following it, in movies, that was high school for me. Cinema was huge. And the movies that teenagers all lined up for back then weren't the big special-effects-y nonsense, you see now. It was The English Patient and Fargo.


Wintetarelli, you know I love you, but I have to call BS on this.

Here are the top 20 box office results from 1996, the year English Patient came out - the top 3 by a mile were special effects laden garbage that the teens lined up for - Fargo was number 67 with 24 million gross - English Patient did better but I would wager most of its gross was not from teenagers:

1 Independence Day Fox $306,169,268 2,977 $50,228,264 2,882 7/3
2 Twister WB $241,721,524 2,808 $41,059,405 2,414 5/10
3 Mission: Impossible Par. $180,981,856 3,012 $45,436,830 3,012 5/22
4 Jerry Maguire Sony $153,952,592 2,531 $17,084,296 2,531 12/13
5 Ransom BV $136,492,681 2,768 $34,216,088 2,676 11/8
6 101 Dalmatians (1996) BV $136,189,294 2,901 $33,504,025 2,794 11/27
7 The Rock BV $134,069,511 2,426 $25,069,525 2,392 6/7
8 The Nutty Professor (1996) Uni. $128,814,019 2,239 $25,411,725 2,115 6/28
9 The Birdcage MGM $124,060,553 2,285 $18,275,828 1,950 3/8
10 A Time to Kill WB $108,766,007 2,313 $14,823,159 2,123 7/26
11 The First Wives Club Par. $105,489,203 2,406 $18,913,411 1,922 9/20
12 Phenomenon BV $104,636,382 2,139 $16,158,901 1,637 7/5
13 Scream Dim. $103,046,663 1,994 $6,354,586 1,413 12/20
14 Eraser WB $101,295,562 2,556 $24,566,446 2,410 6/21
15 The Hunchback of Notre Dame BV $100,138,851 2,835 $21,037,414 2,778 6/21
16 Michael NL $95,318,203 2,325 $17,435,711 2,141 12/25
17 Star Trek: First Contact Par. $92,027,888 2,812 $30,716,131 2,812 11/22
18 Space Jam WB $90,418,342 2,650 $27,528,529 2,650 11/15
19 The English Patient Mira. $78,676,425 1,409 $278,439 10 11/15
20 Broken Arrow (1996) Fox $70,770,147 2,392 $15,583,510 2,388 2/9
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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by irwin:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Argo.... It is a very good to excellent film to be sure, but comparing it to the best films of my teenage years (Pulp Fiction, Shakespeare in Love, The Usual Suspects, Fargo, etc) it doesn't measure up.


Your teenage years? Holy cow, I feel old.


Yep. Pulp Fiction came out when I was 14. So, when you consider that period of time and just following it, in movies, that was high school for me. Cinema was huge. And the movies that teenagers all lined up for back then weren't the big special-effects-y nonsense, you see now. It was The English Patient and Fargo.


Wintetarelli, you know I love you, but I have to call BS on this.

Here are the top 20 box office results from 1996, the year English Patient came out - the top 3 by a mile were special effects laden garbage that the teens lined up for - Fargo was number 67 with 24 million gross - English Patient did better but I would wager most of its gross was not from teenagers:

1 Independence Day Fox $306,169,268 2,977 $50,228,264 2,882 7/3
2 Twister WB $241,721,524 2,808 $41,059,405 2,414 5/10
3 Mission: Impossible Par. $180,981,856 3,012 $45,436,830 3,012 5/22
4 Jerry Maguire Sony $153,952,592 2,531 $17,084,296 2,531 12/13
5 Ransom BV $136,492,681 2,768 $34,216,088 2,676 11/8
6 101 Dalmatians (1996) BV $136,189,294 2,901 $33,504,025 2,794 11/27
7 The Rock BV $134,069,511 2,426 $25,069,525 2,392 6/7
8 The Nutty Professor (1996) Uni. $128,814,019 2,239 $25,411,725 2,115 6/28
9 The Birdcage MGM $124,060,553 2,285 $18,275,828 1,950 3/8
10 A Time to Kill WB $108,766,007 2,313 $14,823,159 2,123 7/26
11 The First Wives Club Par. $105,489,203 2,406 $18,913,411 1,922 9/20
12 Phenomenon BV $104,636,382 2,139 $16,158,901 1,637 7/5
13 Scream Dim. $103,046,663 1,994 $6,354,586 1,413 12/20
14 Eraser WB $101,295,562 2,556 $24,566,446 2,410 6/21
15 The Hunchback of Notre Dame BV $100,138,851 2,835 $21,037,414 2,778 6/21
16 Michael NL $95,318,203 2,325 $17,435,711 2,141 12/25
17 Star Trek: First Contact Par. $92,027,888 2,812 $30,716,131 2,812 11/22
18 Space Jam WB $90,418,342 2,650 $27,528,529 2,650 11/15
19 The English Patient Mira. $78,676,425 1,409 $278,439 10 11/15
20 Broken Arrow (1996) Fox $70,770,147 2,392 $15,583,510 2,388 2/9

Ok. My group of Jewish / Catholic / Unitarian / Agnostic future Ivy league attending, nationally ranked debater, coffee house, Nat Sherman smoking, already wine tasting, theatre geek, Allman Bros listening, Phish following peers all went to the types of movies I mention. In 1996 I did see numbers 1, 3, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10, 13, 16, 19, 20 from that list in theaters, though everyone's favorite that year was Fargo. Smile
Saw Argo last night. Enjoyed it a whole lot. I am not a student of the movies, so I have no thoughts on directing, etc.
The movie held my attention, the actors were believable, and the story was (mostly) true.
The movie notes that the hostages from our embassy in Iran came back in 1981, more than 30 yrs ago, but I remember it quite well.
At the end of the movie, there is a brief reference to "rural Maryland" from which I write this note.
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by irwin:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Argo.... It is a very good to excellent film to be sure, but comparing it to the best films of my teenage years (Pulp Fiction, Shakespeare in Love, The Usual Suspects, Fargo, etc) it doesn't measure up.


Your teenage years? Holy cow, I feel old.


Yep. Pulp Fiction came out when I was 14. So, when you consider that period of time and just following it, in movies, that was high school for me. Cinema was huge. And the movies that teenagers all lined up for back then weren't the big special-effects-y nonsense, you see now. It was The English Patient and Fargo.

You didn't see Jurassic Park in the theater?
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Originally posted by gigabit:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by irwin:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Argo.... It is a very good to excellent film to be sure, but comparing it to the best films of my teenage years (Pulp Fiction, Shakespeare in Love, The Usual Suspects, Fargo, etc) it doesn't measure up.


Your teenage years? Holy cow, I feel old.


Yep. Pulp Fiction came out when I was 14. So, when you consider that period of time and just following it, in movies, that was high school for me. Cinema was huge. And the movies that teenagers all lined up for back then weren't the big special-effects-y nonsense, you see now. It was The English Patient and Fargo.

You didn't see Jurassic Park in the theater?

Hmmm... I think I was 12 when it came out. Maybe 13. But definitely saw it in the theatre. Twice! Smile
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Jiro Dreams of Sushi

Worth seeing, Nolan?
Yes, absolutely inspiring. Makes me think they could make a similar movie about wine starring Paul Draper.

My one complaint is that the music really redefines some of the conversation. If the epic music wasn't playing it would seem like a regular conversation, but the soundtrack makes every utterance by Jiro seem to be divinely commanded.
I really liked it as well. Might be going to Japan for work soon and I'm going to use my local contacts to try to get me in for a lunch with Jiro.


Just saw this last night. Very good. Hope you get your lunch, GlennK. Would love to hear about it if you do!

PH
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Originally posted by Vino Bevo:
My wife got me to watch Rock of Ages with her. Enjoyed the musical memories from high school, but I'll never get those two hours of my life back. Frown


The wife brought it home for us to watch over the weekend. I actually liked it alot. I would never purchase it to own, but found it entertaining.
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Originally posted by BRR:
Slingblade

Like above, I grew another level of respect for Billy Bob Thornton after watching this. Awesome, dark movie (and, just so you know, it's not a ninja movie or action movie, even though the title sounds like it should be!). Highly, highly recommended.


Agreed! I'd call it a great movie. Moody and dark.

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