Molesworth now doing Cali Cab, Markus Chard & PN

gigabit posted:

Perhaps WS should consider promoting/adding another person to help fill in, rather than spread their current staff too thin?  If qualified, a person of color or another woman would be refreshing.

Gig,

"If qualified, a person of color or another woman would be refreshing".

Explain this a bit further.  The first half of your sentence makes sense...why not add another person instead of spreading too thin (if indeed that is going to be the outcome.  The second half would not even enter my mind.


And Molesworth (does Bordeaux currently)?  And is now going to Napa cabernet...I foresee the score of Bordeaux plummeting.

 

billhike posted:

Why would Bordeaux scores plummet?

The commen was semi tongue in cheek.  Iwould think with both regions (for the most part, besides right bank) being Cabernet based... one cannot taste / drink CA cab and Bordeaux and enjoy both equally.  

I know the French have gotten a bit better at cleaning up their wine from poor cellar conditions.

billhike posted:

Wow. You never cease to amaze. You really don’t believe that one cannot enjoy or appreciate similar wines made in different regions and like them both?

Yeah of all the stupid things that have been pontificated on this site, that one has to be one of the most inane. I guess once you go Napa you neva go backa...

napacat posted:
gigabit posted:

Perhaps WS should consider promoting/adding another person to help fill in, rather than spread their current staff too thin?  If qualified, a person of color or another woman would be refreshing.

Gig,

"If qualified, a person of color or another woman would be refreshing".

Explain this a bit further.  The first half of your sentence makes sense...why not add another person instead of spreading too thin (if indeed that is going to be the outcome.  The second half would not even enter my mind.

napacat,

That is the problem.  WS, as are all major wine magazines and boards, is very white male centric.  (And I am a white male)  The fact that it would never enter you mind that it would be a good thing for WS to try to find qualified woman or person of color is a symptom of the problem, we never think outside our own privileged world.  Yes, the fine wine world is a very insular community for the most part, but it could certainly use a different point of view from someone who does not come to it from the middle aged, white male perspective.  Just a thought.

 

 

wineart 2 posted:

Bill and Rob. Consider the source. Something completely ignorant coming from him is about as surprising as something completely uninformed coming from his cult leader. 

#clueless! 

You are joke.  "consider the source"...you don't even know me.  You have zero sense of humor...cannot pick up sarcasm and nuance.  Everything must be black and white in your world.

Stick to your Trump bashing...much more entertaining.  

billhike posted:

Wow. You never cease to amaze. You really don’t believe that one cannot enjoy or appreciate similar wines made in different regions and like them both?

Where did I say you could not enjoy both.  There are plenty of people that enjoy funky, Brett laden Bordeaux.  I am not one.  Disclaimer...yes I am aware that not all loaded with Brett. 

General point was drinking and judging both a preference is going to come forward.  And since I prefer Napa better...suggesting that may win out.

You guys all love to pick posts apart and jump on people.  Trump really has (most) of you in a deep depression...nothing but pure negativity all of the time.

napacat posted:
billhike posted:

Wow. You never cease to amaze. You really don’t believe that one cannot enjoy or appreciate similar wines made in different regions and like them both?

Where did I say you could not enjoy both.  There are plenty of people that enjoy funky, Brett laden Bordeaux.  I am not one.  Disclaimer...yes I am aware that not all loaded with Brett. 

 

"I would think with both regions (for the most part, besides right bank) being Cabernet based... one cannot taste / drink CA cab and Bordeaux and enjoy both equally."

Here is where you said it.   

napacat posted:
gigabit posted:

Perhaps WS should consider promoting/adding another person to help fill in, rather than spread their current staff too thin?  If qualified, a person of color or another woman would be refreshing.

Gig,

"If qualified, a person of color or another woman would be refreshing".

Explain this a bit further.  The first half of your sentence makes sense...why not add another person instead of spreading too thin (if indeed that is going to be the outcome.  The second half would not even enter my mind.


And Molesworth (does Bordeaux currently)?  And is now going to Napa cabernet...I foresee the score of Bordeaux plummeting.

 

And this last comment in the above post.  I have a pretty good sense of humor, and a modicum of ability to detect sarcasm and nuance.  I missed it too.

Add this: "I would think with both regions (for the most part, besides right bank) being Cabernet based... one cannot taste / drink CA cab and Bordeaux and enjoy both equally," 

and I can only believe that you were 100% serious in your statement and are now backing off  your ludicrous and unsupportable opinion by disingenuously claiming sarcasm and nuance.  Sorry, not buying it.

PH

gigabit posted:

Perhaps WS should consider promoting/adding another person to help fill in, rather than spread their current staff too thin?  If qualified, a person of color or another woman would be refreshing.

Based on the Matt Kramer thread below and the comments from Jancis Robinson and Thomas Matthews it sounds like they are downsizing due to less money coming in.

Only thing Trump has to do with it is that he's a stable genius and if he tasted wine, it would probably be no trouble for him to understand all the regions of the world. But he's not a wine critic so WS is really out of luck.

I got used to Laube. I like Molesworth and Marcus, so I don't think those are such bad changes, but Molesworth is spread pretty thinly these days.

The problem for me is that unless someone has been tasting in a region for a while, I'm not particularly interested in his opinions the first few times out. They should be able to tell whether a wine is good or bad and why they like or dislike it, but there's no real context and no background, so they can't really tell you what a wine is likely to become over time or whether it's on course or is an anomaly. So willy-nilly dropping a reviewer here or there is like reading reviews from people on here and maybe not even as useful, if there are people here who have long experience with a particular area.

Still, those guys are pretty good and somehow I get the impression that further changes are afoot.

csm posted:
napacat posted:
billhike posted:

Wow. You never cease to amaze. You really don’t believe that one cannot enjoy or appreciate similar wines made in different regions and like them both?

Where did I say you could not enjoy both.  There are plenty of people that enjoy funky, Brett laden Bordeaux.  I am not one.  Disclaimer...yes I am aware that not all loaded with Brett. 

 

"I would think with both regions (for the most part, besides right bank) being Cabernet based... one cannot taste / drink CA cab and Bordeaux and enjoy both equally."

Here is where you said it.   

Yes I did day that...and I do find it hard to believe you could enjoy both equally being the same grape varietals.  One side would probably win out / be a preference.

 

PH, logic? LOGIC? We are talking about our village idiot. 

Show me where I said that!     How does it taste, Napa, having your own words stuck down your throat? 

PH, we were being taught something today, though. Our village idiot advised us not “all” Bordeaux has Brett and if two wines are tasted together there will be a winner. Brilliant! Who knew? 

 

 

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