Hall of Fame Ballot 2020

 

y Curt Schilling8th
2y Roger Clemens8th
3y Barry Bonds8th
4y Larry Walker10th
5y Omar Vizquel3rd
6y Manny Ramirez4th
7y Jeff Kent7th
8y Scott Rolen3rd
9y Billy Wagner5th
10y Todd Helton2nd
11y Gary Sheffield6th
12y Andy Pettitte2nd
13y Sammy Sosa8th
14y Andruw Jones3rd
15y Derek Jeter1st
6y Bobby Abreu1st
17y Jason Giambi1st
18y Cliff Lee1st

 

THE NEWCOMERS
1- Derek Jeter- Really is there any ?  Mr November; The leader of nearly two decades of top flight Yankee teams. Best consec 7500 PA  613/113/195/17/77/.319/.389/.464 .  BA+ .308/OPS+ and WAR 5.0 /O-WAR 6.0 is outstanding, let alone for a SS. 

-IN

2-Ted Simmons

-IN;  The SABR crowd pushed this borderline gent thru the door.  That's good...he was certainly a decent choice though better at the bat than behind the plate, but as catchers go, top 10-15 all time

534/69/157/17/90/.294/.356/.459;  BA+.293/OPS+ .822 O-WAR 4.1/ WAR 4.0

 

3- Bobby Abreu

Definitely Hall of very good, and while always on base, and a regular run producer, was always under the radar, and underappreciated in the high run scoring years he played. Did it all, just not all at same time, so only 2 AS app, never top 10 league MVP.

577/107/173/21/99/.300/.406/.497; 29- SB; BA+.292 /OPS+.841 ;O-WAR /WAR -4.7/4.6

-ABOVE 5%, ALIVE BUT NOT IN

 

4- Jason Giambi

Definitely Hall of very good, with big bat and while always on base, and a regular run producer, oh, those PED's and DH years

474/84/136/30/96/.287  BA+/OPS+ .281/ .894  O-WAR/WAR  4.6/4/0

--DON'T EVEN THINK 5% HERE,  NO

5-Cliff Lee

Hall of Very Good and Not Enough 

Short excellent peak, but injuries did his candidacy in. Total 2160 IP and avg 184 IP /3.52 ERA avg sounds like good stats from last year, not HOF ones

-NO

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THE HOLDOVERS

 

Curt Schilling-

It's the HOF. And he belongs

197/180/41/190/3.43/1.12/  K/BB=4.67  ERA+ 3.08 WAR 5.0

Larry Walker- The crowded ballots of last few years are thinning out, and some close HOF types who have been waiting now have their last due.  His political opinions and off the field issues notwithstanding, no one could deny his onfield prowess during the season and in the post season. His K/BB ranks as one of the best all time. 6 time AS, 3 times runner up CY, 3 20 W seasons, 11W in 133 IP w 2.23 ERA in post, and 1 bloody sock cement his lore. Best comparison-Mussina

3 seasons left of now lesser competition in voting but he's still belongs  -IN

Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens

he crowded ballots of last few years are thinning out, and some close HOF types who have been waiting now have their last due...but with "taint" of PED use. As younger voters push out the older dead wood, their candidacy gets brighter and brighter.

The numbers themselves are top 5 for their position each, so its just the attitude of the writers to the PEDs that drives the result here.  I think there's a big jump but not enough to get in. But with 3 years left, they will

Manny Ramirez, Gary Sheffield - numbers not nearly as good but are HOF worthy, But yep, PED'S 

Omar Vizquel- played forever, compiled numbers not quite as good as Ozzie Smith, but in a hitter's era, the difference is more than you might think..Stays on but not in

Jeff Kent, Scott Rolen

JK   526/85/155/25/97/.294/.363/.513  BA+ .292  /OPS+.828  O-WAR 4.0/WAR 3.9

A great bat for a 2B, but while slightly better than Whitaker or Grich he wasn't nearly vs Sandberg, Biggio, Alomar

SR  480/82/137/21/85/.284;  BA+ .281/ OPS+.817 ;1000 GG  O-WAR 3.6/WAR 4.9

 as someone who was close to but not quite a Ron Santo,

For these both, there is deserved consideration, but ...will stay on but not in now

Todd Helton

 534/101/176/27/99/.329/.428/.568  BA+.300; OPS+ 873 OWAR-5.5/WAR 5.0

Larry Walker issue all over again. Coors Field bump for sure, but played every day as the heart and soul of Rocks; won't get in now, but I predict the biggest bump up. And in < 9 years in

Billy Wagner

One of the best LH RP ever, his numbers were outragiously good in a hitter's era. In terms or relief run prevention, only Rivera was better; he belongs top 5 all time with Rivera, Wilhelm, Gossage, Hoffman. A pet peeve. SO GREAT;SO OVERLOOKED. Numbers  that should keep him on, but the Writers are blind to his candidacy

Omar Vizquel- played forever, compiled numbers almost not quite as good as Ozzie Smith, but in a hitter's era, the difference is more than you might think..Stays on but not in

 

So where are we:

Ted Simmons -ALREADY IN

Derek Jeter - IN

Curt Schilling - IN

Larry Walker- Just missed; needs the old timers vote sad to say

Barry Bonds;Roger Clemens- Limbo dance not over yet

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