About 19 days before opening day.

Joe Kelly, reliever for the Dodgers, is out of action. Strained his back by "standing too long" cooking Cajun food. Probably the injury of the year.  Gumbo is a dangerous thing.

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- Ichiro retired after playing two games in Tokyo.  If you haven’t seen some of his career highlights, I highly recommend it.  It includes a laser throw from right field to throw out a fast base runner going from first to third, an inside-the-Park HR in an all-star game, and one-inning pitched in the last game of the season a couple of years ago.  First ballot HoF.

- Have the Yankees improved enough to beat the Astros?  

- How many games will Orioles win?

Hockey blows.

Opening day today.  Orioles visiting Yankees. Should be around 50 degrees, which is tolerable. 

I think the Orioles may win 62 games.  I have a bet with a friend on this...a steak dinner.  He thinks the Orioles will do much better than that.  He knows more about the current team than I do. 

Have the Yankees improved enough to beat the Astros? Or, put another way, have the Astros deproved (is that the opposite of improved?). Time will tell.  As Yogi Berra said, "It's hard to make predictions.......especially about the future.

And, yes, hockey blows.

 

Chris Davis.......
He’s the Orioles sometime 1st baseman, sometime DH.  The link is to his “achievement” in September 2018, the prior month he played.  You’ll see that he struck out on 9/21/18 four times in four at bats.  On 9/22/18 he struck out 3 times in 5 at bats.  So that is 7 strikeouts in 9 at bats.  All were at NY against the Yankees.
The Orioles opened the season today against the Yankees in NY.  Davis struck out in all three at bats.  So that makes 10 strikeouts in 12 at bats, all at NY.
He “earns” $23 million per year.   
Good grief.
John Means.....He’s a new Oriole pitcher. Turns 25 I think later in April.
In yesterday’s Oriole game at NY, when John Means gave up a home run in the 7th inning to Gary Sanchez, on Means’ 75th pitch, I felt that Manager Hyde would have been more than justified in pulling Means.  But, Means got the final out of the inning, and the inning ended peacefully.  Means wound up getting the win.
 
So, I guess, the ends do justify the Means?

Yankee outfielder, Giancarlo Stanton, placed on the 10 day disabled list with a strained bicep.

Probably hurt it lifting his wallet.  The Yankees have some really good players on the DL.

bomba503 posted:

Harper signing looking pretty darn good thus far

Yup!  It didn't take him long to remind his former team how good he can be.  Still, not to sorry he's gone.  Nats need to lock down Anthony Rendon this year.  Probably my favorite National.  Just a great guy, and wonderful baseball player.

PH

Amazing amount of injuries the Yanks have suffered. Judge is the latest to go on the IL. You can't recognize their batting line-up as all but 2 are minor leaguers.

Yelich has 12 of his 13 HRs against the Cardinals (8) and Dodgers (4).  With only 3 weeks into the season and 5 full months left, he’s on pace for 61+ HRs.

oriole pitchers have now given up 57 HRs.  No team had ever given up more than 50 through the month of April. More days in April to pad the record ahead.  Not the kind of record you want to get.  This is in 23 games. (57 HRs in 23 games? Yikes) . 

Meanwhile, they played a double header on Saturday. The two teams combined in the doubleheader for 17 Home Runs, a major league record.

Orioles team ERA is well over 6.  Last in the majors.  They've used two position players so far as pitchers, including Chris Davis, who can't pitch like a pitcher, but he hits like one.

Not good.

 

 

The Yanks Triple-A farm team can actually take over first place by beating the Rays today.

Where are Judge, Stanton, Gregorius, Hicks, Severino, Betances, Paxton.....

Oriole pitchers have allowed 81 home runs so far this year in 38 games.  They are on pace to allow 345 home runs for the season. The record of 258 home runs allowed is currently held by the 2016 Reds.

Good grief.

 

Orioles have now given up 159 home runs in 67 games. That is exactly half of the season record, in only 41% of the year.  They should have no trouble setting this unpleasant record.

I feel for you Irwin.  Seems like you love baseball, but your team is in the crapper.  Us San Diego fans no nothing about it. 

My favorite team, the A's, were handed a big blow when their best starter got suspended for 80 games and is ineligible for the playoffs.  Their ace closer is also hurt, and our number one set up guy from last year is pitching horribly.  Yet the A's keep battling and are still over .500.  I love their effort.  

I am not going to post anymore about the Orioles on this thread.  The name of the thread is Major League Baseball and that moniker does not apply to the Orioles   

Curious to read the opinions of baseball fans on this forum about protective screens in the news recently. Personally, I’m for extending them.

I'm anti-netting.  If you don't want your kid to get hurt by a baseball, sit somewhere else or pay attention.  

I’m for the netting. I agree with Dom regarding bringing your kids to a game. If they aren’t able to protect themselves from a liner, maybe you get seats further away from the field. But I went to a Pads game last week, sat just past the infield, 10 rows up, and a liner buzzed our tower. It had serious velocity. Even if paying attention, those shots can hurt someone. I see no negative in the netting. The best seats have always had netting in front of them. 

I've always enjoyed watching the All-Star game.  It was interesting to watch last night that many of the perennial all-stars are not there - Ichiro, Jeter, Rivera, Ortiz, Pizza (all with 10 or more appearances).  I think Arenado, who is an excellent player, may have been the most senior of this year's class with 5.  

billhike posted:
purplehaze posted:

<bump>  It is still baseball season, ne'st ce pas?  

PH

*yawn* 5 weeks until hockey. 

Hockey?  Sounds like something you do when you need to clear your throat.  Just kidding, of course.  Go Caps!  Go Nats!  F the Redskins.  Carry on...

PH

thistlintom posted:

No hitter by Verlander, one walk shy of a perfect game.

Excellent performance by Verlander.  Some good D to help him out as well.  Congrats!

PH

Padres fire Andy Green. They want Bruce Bochy. I wonder if he will be willing to coach SD again. Great farm system but unfortunately they are still the Padres.

Flying to Oakland tomorrow to watch the A’s and Rays do battle on Wed. Crazy that the two teams have the 26th and 30th highest payrolls out of 30. Winner gets the unreasonably good Astros, who have the possible MVP, the top two candidates for Cy Young, and the rookie of the year. Screw ‘em. Let’s go Oakland!

Kershaw continuing to break my heart in the playoffs.  I love the guy but damn that hurt last night!  

glennk posted:

Kershaw continuing to break my heart in the playoffs.  I love the guy but damn that hurt last night!  

Managers fault more than his

Should be in the 40's tonight at game time in St. Louis, after some drizzle.  Ideal weather for baseball.  World series scheduled to start on Oct. 22.  I sort of hope the Yankees beat Houston, just to watch the Yankee fans shiver during the home world series games.

glennk posted:

Kershaw continuing to break my heart in the playoffs.  I love the guy but damn that hurt last night!  

Sorry for your loss.  One man's broken heart is another's moment of ecstasy.    Watching him on the bench after his short shift was painful.  He was just miserable.

GO NATS!!!  At this point, they're playing with house money.  It's been one hell of a ride this season.

PH

Game 1 of the NLCS, Anibal Sanchez takes a no-hitter into the 8th inning.  Game 2, Max Scherzer takes a no-hitter into the 7th.  No two pitchers on the same team have taken no-hitters past the 6th inning in history in consecutive games in the postseason.

The only thing close is when two pitchers took no-hitters into the 5th inning in consecutive games in the ALCS six years ago for the Tigers.  Guess who those two pitchers were?  Yup... Sanchez and Scherzer.  Damn.  On Monday night, the Nat's have some bum named Stephen Strasburg taking the mound.  GO NATS!

PH

irwin posted:

Should be in the 40's tonight at game time in St. Louis, after some drizzle.  Ideal weather for baseball.  World series scheduled to start on Oct. 22.  I sort of hope the Yankees beat Houston, just to watch the Yankee fans shiver during the home world series games.

Pray for snow!!   Yankees deserve it

The Washington Nationals become the first MLB team from Washington to make it to the world series since 1933.  In the Washington suburbs there is a high school named "Walter Johnson High School" named, obviously, for the great pitcher of that era. (Actually, his last year was 1927).  Walter Johnson, the pitcher, threw 5900 innings and gave up fewer than 100 home runs in his career, against 3500+ strikeouts.

Anyway, if the Nationals can rest up while the AL teams battle it out, their pitching should be in good shape for the series.  Maybe they will name a high school after Strasburg or Scherzer.

Haven't watched an inning of playoff baseball this year, just popping in to wish PH and his Nationals good luck in the WS.  Oh, and F@ck the Yankees! (Love you DD).  

Good for Nats.  I watched zero baseball this season but have been catching some of the playoff action. Having not really followed baseball, it is really interesting to see how the strike zone has changed.  A lot of these high pitches would never ever have been called strikes in the 90s early 2000s.  

Gerrit Cole is a nasty pitcher - didn't even have his best stuff last night.  Not sure if anyone saw the sequence, where he got a questionable low and away fastball called a strike, the next pitch slider looked that same pitch was the the exact spot, and the hitter had to swing based on the previous call and the thing dove like 8 inches - it looked like I was swinging or something.  Awesome

patespo1 posted:

Haven't watched an inning of playoff baseball this year, just popping in to wish PH and his Nationals good luck in the WS.  Oh, and F@ck the Yankees! (Love you DD).  

Thanks, Pat!  It's been a real rollercoaster of a season.  After they put up 7 in the 1st inning, I thought I might get to relax and enjoy the rest of the game stress free.  Should have known that wasn't happening.  Hope they can stay loose and be ready next Tuesday.  GO NATS!!

PH

patespo1 posted:

Haven't watched an inning of playoff baseball this year, just popping in to wish PH and his Nationals good luck in the WS.  Oh, and F@ck the Yankees! (Love you DD).  

It's hard to compete with Browns football.  

On May 24 2019 the Nationals were 19-31 (which, if they had continued this level of play would have produced about 100 losses).  Pretty amazing that they turned it around and are in the World Series.

Exciting finish to the Astros/Yankees game.  Big disappointment with the Yankees home run to tie the game in the ninth, followed by Altuves blast to win the game.  Seemed very appropriate for Altuve to win the game, how he hits the ball so far with his size is amazing.

Go Astros!

So the world series will be between 2 cities named for Generals.  Besides being generals, both were heads of state. Washington was President of the US.  Houston was President of the Republic of Texas.

Washington was sworn into office for his second term on March 4, 1793.  Sam Houston was born on March 2, 1793. 

Washington was known, among other things, for throwing a dollar coin across the Rappahannock river.  As a kid, I went to that place with my family and there is a plaque there which commemorates that event.  The river is quite wide, and it seemed to me that there was no way a human could throw anything across the river at that location.  I asked my brother what he thought.  He said, "Well, it's like Dad says..... A dollar doesn't go as far these days as it used to go."

 

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After what Houston pulled with that SI writer by lying and trying to intimidate her I'm all in on the Nats. What an absolutely classless organization.

Nats up 2-0. 

Justin Verlander has 225 wins, 3,006 regular season strikeouts, a record 202 postseason Ks.  He’s got eight All-Star selections, the 2011 Cy Young Award and Most Valuable Player award.

He is also the first pitcher in the history of MLB to lose his first five World Series decisions.

 

csm posted:

Jose Andres to throw out first pitch tonight in DC.  Interesting choice. 

He's actually scheduled to throw the first pitch in game 5.  I love Jose, but am hoping he doesn't get the chance.  Also, "he who should not be named" says he's planning on attending game 5 as well.  One strong reason to hope for a sweep.

PH

The last year a Major League World series was held in DC (1933), the most expensive ticket was $7.  Adjusted for inflation, it would be around $140 today.  The cheapest tickets available for tonight's game, in the nosebleed seats, are $1,400.  

GO NATS!!

PH

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Saturday night’s game could be rained out.  This could disrupt the schedule of the potus 

I predict he doesn’t show up anyway

 

 

Congratulations to Carlos Carrasco for being the recipient of the Roberto Clemente Award which recognizes a player’s philanthropic contributions and community involvement.  Carrasco is a starting pitcher for the Cleveland Indians and was diagnosed with leukemia earlier in the year.

irwin posted:

Saturday night’s game could be rained out.  This could disrupt the schedule of the potus 

I predict he doesn’t show up anyway

 

 

Rain not forecast until after midnight tonight.  I think we're good to go.  Again, the idiot-in-chief has indicated he'd attend Game 5.  That would be tomorrow night.  Forecast for Sunday night is 67F at game time, with an almost zero chance of rain.  I really do not want the dotard anywhere near the ballpark tomorrow.  Nothing good can come from it.

GO NATS!!  C'mon Corbin!!

PH

 

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Nats running on fumes.  Scherzer out.  An unproven Ross is in.  A beautiful evening for baseball in your nation's capital.  Cover me.  I'm going in!  

PH

Way to go Astros!  Looked bad losing the first two games but they have come roaring back and are looking tough to beat.  I saw that Nats fans were leaving early which is pathetic.

For the 4th time these playoffs, it's again "win or go home" time for the Nationals.  Can't think of a pitcher I'd rather have on the mound tonight other than Strasburg.  Hope he can keep the adrenaline under control early on.

No matter what happens tonight, I'm very proud of our guys.  They are not just a team, they're a band of brothers.  Fun stuff.  Hope to be watching tomorrow.

GO NATS!!! 

PH

home field disadvantage.

No team has ever won the WS without winning at least one game at home.  Strasburg, having pitched 8+ innings last night, is being "shut down" again for the rest of 2019.

csm posted:

I can't believe they didn't let Strasburg finish that one last night.  Taking him out was criminal. 

Apparently he signaled that he was done.  It was his call.  He was gassed.  Epic performance.

PH

Sandy Koufax won games 5 and 7 of the 1965 World Series, pitching complete game shutouts both times. He started game 7 on 2 days rest. 

I wonder if Cole is up to pitching again.

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purplehaze posted:
csm posted:

I can't believe they didn't let Strasburg finish that one last night.  Taking him out was criminal. 

Apparently he signaled that he was done.  It was his call.  He was gassed.  Epic performance.

PH

I didn’t see any of the game. That’s incredibly smart and unselfish of him to do. 

irwin posted:

Sandy Koufax won games 5 and 7 of the 1965 World Series, pitching complete game shutouts both times. He started game 7 on 2 days rest. 

And Koufax retired a year later 

purplehaze posted:
csm posted:

I can't believe they didn't let Strasburg finish that one last night.  Taking him out was criminal. 

Apparently he signaled that he was done.  It was his call.  He was gassed.  Epic performance.

PH

Makes sense then. I was wondering what they were doing. I thought leave him in until there is a baserunner.  I thought he'd hit the 100 pitch mark so modern analytics dictate he come out.  

99 pitches fine.  101 game over 

captaincancun posted:

Houston will win the next game... Cheers all! 🥂

Cheers to you!  I'm told that Champagne pairs spectacularly with crow.  Bon Appetit!  

PH

Congratulations to the Washington Nationals!  What a resilient, relentless bunch!  Corbin was incredible tonight!

I'm very happy for the Nats fans on the WS boards (i.e. PH, Lentini, and others).

Congrats to the Nationals for winning the World Series.  Very disappointing to see the Astros lose, but the Nationals were better in the clutch when it was needed. 

Remarkable series. No wins by the home team in 7 games.  Nats come from behind like they did all year. Hard to believe they started the year at 19-31.  No question as to who the "manager of the year" should be (at least not in my mind).

I remember going to the final Washington Senators game in 1971. Sitting in the upper deck in left field with a high school buddy.  The Nationals are a different franchise of course, and Washington is a different city than it was in 1971. 

Orioles spring training starts in 101 days.

Congrats to the Nationals and their fans, especially PH. Glad to see Strasburg and Kendrick be able to celebrate this. 

Congrats indeed to Nats and their fans.  It’s a great feeling.

On a side note, Mattress Mack in Houston lost about $13M in bets he made with various sports books across the country.  The move was to hedge a sales promotion where he would refund customers who bought his mattresses if the Astros won the World Series.  That is a lot of mattresses.  

More on the Nationals.... They came from behind in 5 games in which they faced elimination.  They were the first team to win 4 world series games on the road. Steve Strasburg was the first pitcher to go 5-0 in the post season, winning 18 in the regular season. Juan Soto hit one world series home run before his 21st birthday and 2 HRs after his birthday, which was between games 2 and 3.

 

Thanks for the kind words, all.  Crazy stuff indeed.  Strasburg is MVP, and deservingly so.  Here's a crazy stat for you.  Anthony Rendon, who I've been a big fan of since they called him up in 2013, had 8 at bats in "elimination" games in the 7th inning or later.  In those at bats he got: walk, homer, double, homer, homer, double and homer.  The guy has got ice water in his veins.  A free agent now, he's going to get paid, and paid well.  I hope the Nats can keep him around.  Strasburg also has an opt-out this year.  Need to keep him too.  The Lerners (very good owners, especially by Washington standards) can certainly afford it.

This World Series thing, when you have a team in the hunt, is really stressful.  Talking with friends yesterday, I likened it to cocaine or speed.  Incredible highs followed by terrible crashes.  If you're going to remain healthy, you KNOW that you can't do it for long or you're gonna die!!  One way or the other, I was ready for the season to end last night.  Glad it ended the way it did.

Not on to hockey!  GO CAPS!!!

PH

billhike posted:

Not on? 

Could have been Freudian!   I love hockey, but baseball is my first love.  I have hard time understanding how people don't like it, but again... it's a slower game with an emphasis on strategy and finesse, coupled with power and speed.  I find that the most serious baseball fans have played competitive ball in their pasts.

PH

Congrats to maybe the most passionate baseball fans that I know. I have never seen a team comeback in seemingly every situation like that. I knew when I saw the celebration (beer flying in the air and such) of the Nats beating Milwaukee that they were going to be a tough out. My first impression of hearing they had little chance in the WS was to bet them heavily. It's baseball, anything can happen.

As for Hinch pulling Grienke, or not going to Cole, I still think the Nats win. They were just on that type of roll.

And one last thing, I am not over the Braves blowing their series against the Cards.   

Just watched highlights of the parade in DC for the Nats' homecoming.  Estimates are +/- 1,000,000 fans showed for the parade.  Passionate fans indeed.  Bravo Washington, DC!

PH

irwin posted:

1 million? wow.

When I heard that number, I was a bit surprised.  Should be interesting to hear the final estimates.  There were sure a lot of folks there, though.  Fun ending to a crazy season.

PH

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I wonder if the image of Kurt Suzuki in his red hat getting his nipples fondled by 45 will be printed on Nats tickets for next year.

billhike posted:

I wonder if the image of Kurt Suzuki in his red hat getting his nipples fondled by 45 will be printed on Nats tickets for next year.

That was gross, as was Ryan Zimmerman's comments (IMO).  Wondering how PH and other Nats fans feel about those moments 

patespo1 posted:
billhike posted:

I wonder if the image of Kurt Suzuki in his red hat getting his nipples fondled by 45 will be printed on Nats tickets for next year.

That was gross, as was Ryan Zimmerman's comments (IMO).  Wondering how PH and other Nats fans feel about those moments 

Not at all pleased, but I've never given a fuck what athletes and actors do or say politically. They are no more qualified to comment on the goings on in the country than you or I.

PH

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purplehaze posted:
patespo1 posted:
billhike posted:

I wonder if the image of Kurt Suzuki in his red hat getting his nipples fondled by 45 will be printed on Nats tickets for next year.

That was gross, as was Ryan Zimmerman's comments (IMO).  Wondering how PH and other Nats fans feel about those moments 

Not at all pleased, but I've never given a fuck what athletes and actors do or say politically. They are no more qualified to comment on the goings on in the country than you or I.

PH

Agreed. 

billhike posted:

Strasburg stays in D.C. for 7/245. Good for him but I wonder how long until it feels like an albatross.

Maybe you should ask Angels fans how much they love the contract that Pujols signed at the age of 32.  Just one postseason appearance, zero series wins, and the most classic definition of diminishing returns...  

azwiese posted:
billhike posted:

Strasburg stays in D.C. for 7/245. Good for him but I wonder how long until it feels like an albatross.

Maybe you should ask Angels fans how much they love the contract that Pujols signed at the age of 32.  Just one postseason appearance, zero series wins, and the most classic definition of diminishing returns...  

I don’t know any. 

I’m hoping Cole does not end up in the Bronx.  The Yankees just finished eating up the Ellsbury contract.  Stanton played a total of like 14 games last year.  

I'm an Angel fan!

The Pujols contract has been awful, of course, but it was for 10 years and his performance tailed off quickly.  Having that along with Hamilton's even worse deal was a clear issue.  Giving Pujols ABs when he's a replacement level player (or worse) over the last three seasons was organizational stubbornness.  

The Nationals had a good experience with the Scherzer deal.  Maybe they will luck out twice.

Neil

doubled posted:

I’m hoping Cole does not end up in the Bronx.  The Yankees just finished eating up the Ellsbury contract.  Stanton played a total of like 14 games last year.  

too bad.  9 yrs at $340+ million. That is a big risk for a pitcher. Meanwhile, Rendon just signed with the Dodgers for $245 million for 7 years.

irwin posted:
doubled posted:

I’m hoping Cole does not end up in the Bronx.  The Yankees just finished eating up the Ellsbury contract.  Stanton played a total of like 14 games last year.  

too bad.  9 yrs at $340+ million. That is a big risk for a pitcher. Meanwhile, Rendon just signed with the Dodgers for $245 million for 7 years.

Angels, actually. 

billhike posted:
irwin posted:
doubled posted:

I’m hoping Cole does not end up in the Bronx.  The Yankees just finished eating up the Ellsbury contract.  Stanton played a total of like 14 games last year.  

too bad.  9 yrs at $340+ million. That is a big risk for a pitcher. Meanwhile, Rendon just signed with the Dodgers for $245 million for 7 years.

Angels, actually. 

oops.  3000 miles from me in any event.

Angels are the first team to sign three players to $200+ million contracts.  Maybe that will finally get Trout a post-season win.  

Obviously, it's a lot for Rendon but 3B has been a major short-coming for the team dating back to when Chone Figgins was there for a few seasons.

Neil

Astros fire Manager and GM over sign stealing. Red Sox (Cora) is next. Guess cheating does pay, because Houston and Boston won WS in '17 and '18.

Astros title should be vacated;  I'm not sure the extent of the Red Sox cheating but if similar theirs should be vacated also. 

patespo1 posted:

Astros title should be vacated;  I'm not sure the extent of the Red Sox cheating but if similar theirs should be vacated also. 

+1.

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