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Originally posted by Stefania Wine:
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Originally posted by jburman82:
Conservative estimate would be 8 wins better, probably 10-12.


Jack you're such a stat guy, surely you know that kind of WAR is crazy.


Their current 3rd/4th/5th guys are all have negative WAR. Fernandez had a 4.2 last year. So, even with the WAR stat, 5 more wins is possible..and I don't believe WAR would truly predict an alternate reality.
A game of inches.

LA Angels loaded the bases, down 7-3 in the ninth. Scored 3, loaded the bases again, and then lost.

The Orioles were 1 for 17 with men in scoring position, and their starter entered the game with an ERA over 7.5. His ERA got worse. Yet, the Orioles managed to win in extra innings.
The Orioles are now 12-2 in extra inning games and lead the majors in that statistic.
Only 1.5 games out of the wild card, and the dreaded Yankees come to town.
Yikes
A win by the Nationals vs Philadelphia combined with a win by Atlanta vs Miami gave the Nationals another Division championship.

It was somewhat of an anticlimax and, as the Atlanta victory was 90 minutes after Washington victory (it went into the 11th inning), the Nationals manager, Dusty Baker was taking a nap when the 'big moment' arrived.

The Nationals are, 88-55. Miami, in 2nd place is 68-75, which is a pretty sad record for a 2nd place team.
Yup! The NL East is a pretty sorry division, so this was expected. Now to keep focused on some more wins to get home field advantage for the playoff run. Only 4 behind the Dodgers right now.

The Nats played only one of their regular position players yesterday. This team has done a great job on player development. They are very deep in talent.

PH
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
Chris Sale is having an excellent season as well.

Absolutely!

Also, Kluber has a better ERA, a better RA, a better WHIP, a better opponent batting average, more innings per start, the same number of wins despite starting 3 fewer games, a MUCH better win-loss percentage, 5 times as many complete games, 3 x infinity as many shutouts...
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
Chris Sale is having an excellent season as well.

Absolutely!

Also, Kluber has a better ERA, a better RA, a better WHIP, a better opponent batting average, more innings per start, the same number of wins despite starting 3 fewer games, a MUCH better win-loss percentage, 5 times as many complete games, 3 x infinity as many shutouts...


Don't let the stats get in the way of your Sale argument though DD! Big Grin
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
Kluber also faces the Kansas City and Chicago minor league teams more than Sale while Sale faces the beasts of the east.

Yup, so don't let stats and location color your sports glasses patespo. Smile


Ha, Toronto, Tampa, and Baltimore are only Beasts to New Yorkers that think they are at the center of the universe.

Just hope your team makes the playoffs, and if they face the Indians, I'll be happy to take another Macdonald from you!
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Originally posted by patespo1:
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
Kluber also faces the Kansas City and Chicago minor league teams more than Sale while Sale faces the beasts of the east.

Yup, so don't let stats and location color your sports glasses patespo. Smile


Ha, Toronto, Tampa, and Baltimore are only Beasts to New Yorkers that think they are at the center of the universe.

Just hope your team makes the playoffs, and if they face the Indians, I'll be happy to take another Macdonald from you!


BA / Runs Scored ranking:

NYY: 8/2
TB: 26/25
Bal: 5/14
TO: 29/26

Minn: 13/7
KC: 8/23
Det: 8/17
CWS: 15/24

East minus Bos and Central minus Cle are nearly identical in aggregate offensive prowess. FYI.
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Originally posted by Arsenal4ever:
Anybody else remember the 2001 Seattle club that finished the season 116-46 and then fell 4-1 to the Yanks in the playoffs? Nothing matters in the regular season except getting into the playoffs. Indians have had a great run, but it doesn't matter one bit if they don't win the WS.


Or, as Toby Harrah said, "bikinis and statistics are similar. They show a lot, but not everything."
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Originally posted by Board-O:
I actually turned off the Yankee game to watch the end of the Indians game. Very exciting! I'm not a fan of the term "team of destiny," but they sure do look like one.


An awesome run, for sure. That said, the Dodgers looked like a team of destiny a few weeks back.

As many have said, all that matters is October.

PH
When I was younger (uphills both ways no shows in snow) ball parks had HUGE netting covering all of the backstop to the dugouts (shea, yankee, wrigley and fenway first hand). When did better views trump fan safety? I watched it happened and have been sick to my stomach. Cant imagine how the grandparents feel and the parents who were not present feel.
I only hope she is okay and makes a full recovery. At such a young age the baseball is probably larger than her face. Thoughts and prayers...
I would say lets go mets but they aint going anywhere
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Originally posted by Arsenal4ever:
Judge hits two more HRs to pass McGwire for most by a rookie (50). Sure hope they don't find PEDS in his system one day. McGwire eventually confessed.

If you do a side-by-side comparison of McGwire when he first came up with his stature when he hit those HRs, you can see a pretty big growth spurt during those years.

Judge is already 6'7", 280-lbs @ age 25. He was probably 230-lbs in college. He's a linebacker with the skills to put bat on ball 75-80% of the time. I'd be very surprised if he took PEDs during those years, but who knows. I would also be very surprised if he hasn't already been tested more than once this season.
Only two players in baseball history have won the Rookie of the Year award and the Most Valuable Player award in that same season.
Both in the American League. Both outfielders.
Judge has a great chance to be the third.

Both of those two players also won gold gloves that same season. One is already in the Hall of Fame and one will get there once he is eligible.

Fred Lynn
Ichiro Suzuki
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Originally posted by irwin:
The Orioles were 71-68 and then lost 19 of their final 23 games to claim last place.


I didn't realize they finished last. So Toronto occupied the cellar just about all year and the Orioles took it away.

I'm expecting the Yankees to be substantial favorites tomorrow, but one never knows what will happen in one game.
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
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Originally posted by Azwiese:
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
Yanks pick up Sonny Gray - a solid pitcher who can be a #2 or #3. Smile


As an A's fan, I'll amend that statement and say that he can be a #1.

I hope you're right!

Gray is definitely not an ace, 3rd SP at best. Velocity is average in today's rotations and needs pinpoint control to get people out. He was behind a lot of hitters tonight.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
As much as it pains me, Kershaw continues to underperform in the postseason.
He was pretty dominant until the 7th. The first HR was a great swing on a good pitch. The 2nd was a hanger and his only really bad pitch in 6 innings. They should not have brought him out in the 7th. Was near 100 pitches and they had a comfortable lead. The 7th has been his issue in the playoffs.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Kershaw pulled after 5 innings? Frown

Clearly not an ace in postseason. Frown
Guy on third in a tie game with the best bullpen in baseball. I thought it was the right move to pinch hit for him in that situation. He didn’t have his best stuff last night but I thought it battled through it pretty well. Dodgers won which is all that matters in the end.
I did something last night I've never done before and that is watch the game and follow along on Twitter. It was quite an experience.

Now I am a diehard Yankee fan, but seeing the fanatical tweets was hysterical. Of course there were the typical "their strike zone is much larger than our strike zone" comments. My favorites were the number of people who were appalled by the little boy interfering with Judge on the home run. Hello, Yankee fans invented that move, remember Jeffery Maier? The pot calling the kettle black was the number of people who were disturbed by Astros fans shouting "Yankees Suck", again we invented the "Boston Sucks" chant. Me thinks the Millennial Yankee fans need to develop a bit thicker skin.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
Verlander throws 93 strikes, not pitches, but strikes. Cool


He was terrific!


He was. It's a little painful to see him do that in an Astros uniform, but I hope they win the Series. He was a great Tiger and it could be worse...he could be wearing pinstripes.

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