Everyone's going mental here.
Joey Bats ... Very interesting tied game with a rain delay.
quote:Originally posted by DoubleD:
Joey Bats ... Very interesting tied game with a rain delay.
And then he makes a big mistake throwing to the wrong place in the 8th to allow Cain to score.
At least we won't be seeing the parrot until Spring.
Mets vs. Royals.
boring.
boring.
quote:Originally posted by irwin:
Mets vs. Royals.
boring.
Many people said they were the best teams and looks like they were right.
Both teams made it to the World Series with little difficulty.
quote:Originally posted by irwin:
Mets vs. Royals.
boring.
If one doesn't have a rooting interest in a team, most WS are boring. Being a Cubs fan, I would much rather see the Cubs in there, but I thought all the final four teams had compelling storylines being that none have won for quite some time. For that reason and because I think the Mets/Royals offers an intereting match up between the Mets pitching and the Royals hitting approach, I'm looking forward to the WS. That being said, given the teams and that I think this could be a relatively low-scoring series, I expect TV ratings won't be very good.
I'm rooting for the Royals. I've always kind of liked the Royals going back to the George Brett days, and I like to root for small market teams if I don't have a natural rooting interest. Plus I can't root for the Mets being that they just beat the Cubs.
First and third with no outs, Jays? WTF.
Pretty good Game 1 so far.
soo sleepy
Went to bed heading into bottom of 8th, Mets up 4-3. Figured they'd either win it or it would go to extra innings and I'd then go to bed. Glad I didn't stay up.
Agreed this was a great, great first game and no clear cut favorite heading into it.
Pulling for the Mets.
Agreed this was a great, great first game and no clear cut favorite heading into it.
Pulling for the Mets.
Mets blow a 2-0 lead in the ninth. What a series! KC won't kill you with the long ball, but they can string together some clutch hits.
Mets bullpen could not close out games. Congratulations to the Royals. Quite the run this play-off season.
Congratulations to Kansas City, a team that seems to get little respect.
Two straight World Series appearances and a 4-1 series win. Well done.
Two straight World Series appearances and a 4-1 series win. Well done.
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
Congratulations to Kansas City, a team that seems to get little respect.
Two straight World Series appearances and a 4-1 series win. Well done.
+1 KC would have earned a lot of respect from anyone who watched any part of the series. Mets pitching was very solid.
As my friend so perfectly stated: "Congratulations Royals fans! I know you all have been following this franchise so closely for the last 14 months and this win is for you!!"
quote:Originally posted by Juicy:
Mets bullpen could not close out games. Congratulations to the Royals. Quite the run this play-off season.
i wouldnt' say that
i'd say it was a bunch of in field errors that really costs the mets
the starting 4 acutally lived up to billing in my opinion
Congrats to the Royals, though this Series would still be going if the Mets could handle Little league plays in the infield. Murphy's error in Game 4 and Duda's throw last night sunk them. Hosmer would have been out by 10 feet if Duda could have executed s pretty simple throw.
quote:Originally posted by Arsenal4ever:
Congrats to the Royals, though this Series would still be going if the Mets could handle Little league plays in the infield. Murphy's error in Game 4 and Duda's throw last night sunk them. Hosmer would have been out by 10 feet if Duda could have executed s pretty simple throw.
even that game 1, david wright error across that pulled duda off the bag.
i'd say game 2 was the only game where you could say the mets bullpen imploded for the loss
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by Juicy:
Mets bullpen could not close out games. Congratulations to the Royals. Quite the run this play-off season.
i wouldnt' say that
i'd say it was a bunch of in field errors that really costs the mets
the starting 4 acutally lived up to billing in my opinion
Familia giving up the Gordon home run in the bottom of the ninth of game one didn't involve any errors. He also blew another save opportunity in game 5. Four of the five runs in the top of the 12th in Game 5 were earned runs.
Agree the Mets' starters were great. The errors were costly but the bullpen failed.
Bye-bye Anthopoulos. Bye-bye winning. Hello decade of lower priced talent and huge corporate profits for Rogers (aka the "MLSE" model).
Nice to see an AL central team win it all. Twins almost got a wild card. Maybe next year they can get one.
David Price reportedly signed with Boston for 7 years at $217 million. Glad the Cubs passed at that price and term.
quote:Originally posted by thelostverse:
David Price reportedly signed with Boston for 7 years at $217 million. Glad the Cubs passed at that price and term.
With an opt-out after year three. I loved him on the Jays but I'm glad they didn't do that deal.
I'm sorry to see him leave Toronto. He was great for both the morale of the team and the city. He did not, however, deliver in the ALDS or ALCS. Neither did the Blue Jay bats. I wish him good luck in Boston and I will always be a fan of his.
quote:Originally posted by thelostverse:
David Price reportedly signed with Boston for 7 years at $217 million. Glad the Cubs passed at that price and term.
+1 on the Yankees not signing him either. Ditto on Jordan Zimmerman.
that is an awful lot of money. It is ridiculous these salaries.
Especially for a guy who hasn't produced in the post season.
Picked up an ace and kept all the blossoming prospects. It's not my money and there's no real salary cap, so as long as they aren't going to let it hamstring them in other areas of need spend away. His numbers in the AL East parks are ridiculous, especially at Fenway. Sub 2.00 era there. They can worry about the post season if they get there, which has been an issue lately for them. As long as he doesn't pull a CC and fall off the map in a few years I'm happy with this. And even if he did, CC brought NY its first title in years. Would you give it back for a lower payroll now??
Athough there is no cap and you may not be paying for it directly, there is a spending limit. Every team has one.
For every CC signing that brings a championship, there are 20 Jacoby Ellsbury and Max Scherzer signings that don't.
For every CC signing that brings a championship, there are 20 Jacoby Ellsbury and Max Scherzer signings that don't.

quote:Originally posted by DoubleD:
Athough there is no cap and you may not be paying for it directly, there is a spending limit. Every team has one.
Except the Dodgers.

But there is a luxury tax if your payroll for the year is over $189 million. Of course, only the Dodgers and Yankees had to pay it last year.
Even adding Price's $31M for the year to last year's payroll, the Red Sox don't quite hit it. Of course, they aren't finished yet and you have to assume that their payroll will go up a little but considering that their only arbitration eligible player is Rick Porcello, I doubt it will be by much.
Even adding Price's $31M for the year to last year's payroll, the Red Sox don't quite hit it. Of course, they aren't finished yet and you have to assume that their payroll will go up a little but considering that their only arbitration eligible player is Rick Porcello, I doubt it will be by much.
Dang, Arizona is adding some pitching. Greinke first and now Shelby Miller.
Cubbies went the cheap(er) route, picking up Lackey for I believe two years and then several fringier RPs to bolster the pen. Don't love the contract they gave Zobrist, but I think he is a great add. Picking up Warren from the Yankees for Starlin Castro helps both teams.
Cubbies went the cheap(er) route, picking up Lackey for I believe two years and then several fringier RPs to bolster the pen. Don't love the contract they gave Zobrist, but I think he is a great add. Picking up Warren from the Yankees for Starlin Castro helps both teams.
quote:Originally posted by eyesintime:
Picking up Warren from the Yankees for Starlin Castro helps both teams.
I hope you're right. Warren was versitile for the Yankees.
quote:Originally posted by eyesintime:
Cubbies went the cheap(er) route, picking up Lackey for I believe two years and then several fringier RPs to bolster the pen. Don't love the contract they gave Zobrist, but I think he is a great add. Picking up Warren from the Yankees for Starlin Castro helps both teams.
These moves mean the Cubs won't resign CF Fowler. Zobrist will likely take over CF and lead off for the Cubs. It is also unlikely that Baez is moved since he will now be the full time 2B (provided he cuts down on his K's). I also expect Warren to be slotted into the rotation (Arrieta, Lester, Lackey, Warren and Hammel) which leaves 26yo Kyle Hendricks as the odd man out.
VM
quote:Originally posted by Board-O:quote:Originally posted by eyesintime:
Picking up Warren from the Yankees for Starlin Castro helps both teams.
I hope you're right. Warren was versitile for the Yankees.
Yankees needed a 2B bad, and while Castro isn't a world-beater he is solid -- though frustrating. When he gets hot he can carry a team, but he also has some painfully bad streaks. But he's only 25 and I believe under contract for 4 or 5 years at a "reasonable" amount. Warren gives the Cubs flexibility. He's likely never going to be more than a #5 (possibly #4) starter, but the ability to move him back and forth between rotation and pen is something that Maddon will love. So, win-win for both.
quote:Originally posted by Vino Me:quote:Originally posted by eyesintime:
Cubbies went the cheap(er) route, picking up Lackey for I believe two years and then several fringier RPs to bolster the pen. Don't love the contract they gave Zobrist, but I think he is a great add. Picking up Warren from the Yankees for Starlin Castro helps both teams.
These moves mean the Cubs won't resign CF Fowler. Zobrist will likely take over CF and lead off for the Cubs. It is also unlikely that Baez is moved since he will now be the full time 2B (provided he cuts down on his K's). I also expect Warren to be slotted into the rotation (Arrieta, Lester, Lackey, Warren and Hammel) which leaves 26yo Kyle Hendricks as the odd man out.
VM
I agree Zobrist will probably lead off, but I can't see the Cubs playing him full-time in CF. He's started 24 games in CF in his career. So I don't think it is a done deal that Baez isn't traded (though I'm guessing he's not). I think they'll bring in someone (or 2 players as a platoon) to play CF and find Baez 60-80 starts at each of the infield positions.
quote:Originally posted by eyesintime:quote:Originally posted by Vino Me:quote:Originally posted by eyesintime:
Cubbies went the cheap(er) route, picking up Lackey for I believe two years and then several fringier RPs to bolster the pen. Don't love the contract they gave Zobrist, but I think he is a great add. Picking up Warren from the Yankees for Starlin Castro helps both teams.
These moves mean the Cubs won't resign CF Fowler. Zobrist will likely take over CF and lead off for the Cubs. It is also unlikely that Baez is moved since he will now be the full time 2B (provided he cuts down on his K's). I also expect Warren to be slotted into the rotation (Arrieta, Lester, Lackey, Warren and Hammel) which leaves 26yo Kyle Hendricks as the odd man out.
VM
I agree Zobrist will probably lead off, but I can't see the Cubs playing him full-time in CF. He's started 24 games in CF in his career. So I don't think it is a done deal that Baez isn't traded (though I'm guessing he's not). I think they'll bring in someone (or 2 players as a platoon) to play CF and find Baez 60-80 starts at each of the infield positions.
Heard the Giants had offered 60 million over the same time period but Zobrist wanted to play 2nd and that would not be possible with Panik so signed for less money with Cubs to play infield. That is the propaganda from this area.
I think that makes sense Juicy, though Zobrist originally being from IL might have had something to do with it also. I think he'll play some OF as might Bryant to open up some starts for Baez if he isn't traded. Maddon likes to mix and match, those 2 being able to play some OF, Baez being able to play 3 infield spots, and Schwarber being able to play OF and catcher play right into what Maddon likes to do. Part of the reason the Cubs wanted Zobrist from what I've read is that as VM points out he can bat leadoff, which means the new CF(s) don't have to have that ability. So someone like Heyward, who supposedly has the Cubs on his short list with Cards, Angels and maybe Nationals, would make more sense. It might come down to whether he wants to play CF full time, which he would have to do with Cubs and likely not with STL and LAA.
Reports are that the Cubbies got Heyward.
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