How are you doing it?
In one thread I believe Wine + Art mentioned that he's lost 35 pounds but still seems to be enjoying plenty of wines.
What's the secret??
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I would assume it has to do with just cutting calories and upping the cardio and adding weights to build muscle, which burns more calories. M. loses weight quickly during cycling season and still drinks moderately.
Running. Lots and lots of running. 5 days a week for me.
PH
PH
+1 for the cycling and weights.
What worked for me:
a) continue to eat +- everything you want, considering any kind of diet won't last long anyway
b) 3-4x low pulse cycling per week, 1.30 - 2 Hours, totalling 5-6 Hours per week
(made use of a home-ergometer, e.g. the duration of watching a soccer match is ideal
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Lost 21 kg in about one and a half years.
a) continue to eat +- everything you want, considering any kind of diet won't last long anyway
b) 3-4x low pulse cycling per week, 1.30 - 2 Hours, totalling 5-6 Hours per week
(made use of a home-ergometer, e.g. the duration of watching a soccer match is ideal
)Lost 21 kg in about one and a half years.
I continued to drink dry wines while on a low carb diet and it did not slow down my weight loss so far as I noticed.
Wine by itself doesnt have too terribly many calories anyway...it's the eating that it may induce. That said, I just treat it (and any alcohol) like a food item. It ain't water(or diet soda).
The biggest problem I see with drinking while dieting is the higher risk for loss of control under the influence. Personally I always find myself eating more when I drink. I have trimmed my drinking down from daily to weekend mostly.....holidays exempt of course. This has also allowed my to up in quality (quality verse quantity)....nice side effect.
quote:Originally posted by Spiral:
How are you doing it?
I could plant myself on the couch for a year with a never ending buffet, and I'd lose weight. The only way I can gain is to lift weights.
Different question: How much does your weight fluctuate within a day, or between morning and evening? I lost 15 pounds during elk season in Sept this year, weight I couldn't afford to lose. Couldn't gain any back gorging myself, so I started lifting again, and I'm up 10 pounds in a week and a half. However, this morning I'm almost 5 pounds lighter than when I went to bed last night.
Where does the weight go? Just vanishes.In high school my weight would jump around up to 15 pounds in a single day. I don't understand how this is possible, but if there are any doctors out there that can explain this....I'm all ears.
quote:Originally posted by Foghorn:quote:Originally posted by Spiral:
How are you doing it?
I could plant myself on the couch for a year with a never ending buffet, and I'd lose weight. The only way I can gain is to lift weights.
Different question: How much does your weight fluctuate within a day, or between morning and evening? I lost 15 pounds during elk season in Sept this year, weight I couldn't afford to lose. Couldn't gain any back gorging myself, so I started lifting again, and I'm up 10 pounds in a week and a half. However, this morning I'm almost 5 pounds lighter than when I went to bed last night.
In high school my weight would jump around up to 15 pounds in a single day. I don't understand how this is possible, but if there are any doctors out there that can explain this....I'm all ears.
Erratic scale? Fluctuations in water weight?
quote:Originally posted by Spiral:
How are you doing it?
In one thread I believe Wine + Art mentioned that he's lost 35 pounds but still seems to be enjoying plenty of wines.
What's the secret??
Cocaine
I'm on the Exlax and Epicac diet. Spew and $hit your way to skinny......
5 miles of roadwork this afternoon. Pizza and tons of wine for dinner. Down 2 pounds from this day last week. 
Life is good.
PH
Life is good.PH
quote:Originally posted by Numenor:
Wine by itself doesnt have too terribly many calories anyway.
I'd call 660 calories per bottle quite a bit...
You wouldn't?
quote:Originally posted by Foghorn:
However, this morning I'm almost 5 pounds lighter than when I went to bed last night.
I'm not a doctor (but I do play one on t.v.). It seems to me that you're either living in a black hole or you're violating the law of conservation of matter.
While you could conceivable lose a little weight through water vapor (in your breath) or sweating while sleeping, unless you're leaving out a couple of late-night trips to the bathroom, this simply is not possible.
I do weights and cybex one day then do abs and cardio the next day at the ymca I belong to. Fatty food and soda pop is alot worse than drinking wine! 
quote:Cocaine
Meth here. The money I save goes for better wines and false teeth.
quote:Originally posted by Golf&Pinot Nut:
I'm not a doctor (but I do play one on t.v.). It seems to me that you're either living in a black hole or you're violating the law of conservation of matter.
Wouldn't be the first law I violated.
Actually, I am an anomoly. Been violating the laws of matter and others for years. I can eat 5 pounds of food and lose three pounds. I can take a shower and come out 2 pounds lighter than when I went in (and no, I don't have mud caked on). The weight fluctuations between night and morning have always been around. Like I said, in high school I could weigh 180 at night, and 165 in the morning. I don't get those kinds of swings anymore, but 5 pounds is common. My HS basketball coach spent a whole gob of money on super protein and carb formulas for me. I was taking in over 3000 extra calories a day, and I actually lost weight on the stuff. The more I eat, the faster my metabolism kicks up; the less I eat the slower my metabolism goes. About 15 years ago I was taking in 7000 calories a day trying to put on weight. I was literally eating myself out of house and home, and I lost weight. So I gave that up.
A four ounce glass of table wine is about 80 calories, about the same as a plain slice of bread, 1 and 1/2 oreo cookies, or 3/4 of an ounce of pretzels. It also has only 3 grams of carbohydrates and no fat.
Obviously, the effect on your diet and weight depends on how much you're having -- if it's a bottle a night seven days a week, that would have a fairly significant effect, and if it's a glass or two a night five days a week, it would have a very small effect. You'd just need to account for it in your overal caloric intake just as you would anything else you eat.
Barring very heavy and frequent drinking, I think it's pretty easily consistent with a sensible diet or a weight loss effort. The bigger issue, as stated above, is whether the alcohol impairment tends to cause you to lose control on eating, and/or whether a hangover the next day tends to make you eat worse to compensate for how you feel. That would end up being much more significant to your diet than would the wine itself.
Obviously, the effect on your diet and weight depends on how much you're having -- if it's a bottle a night seven days a week, that would have a fairly significant effect, and if it's a glass or two a night five days a week, it would have a very small effect. You'd just need to account for it in your overal caloric intake just as you would anything else you eat.
Barring very heavy and frequent drinking, I think it's pretty easily consistent with a sensible diet or a weight loss effort. The bigger issue, as stated above, is whether the alcohol impairment tends to cause you to lose control on eating, and/or whether a hangover the next day tends to make you eat worse to compensate for how you feel. That would end up being much more significant to your diet than would the wine itself.
quote:Originally posted by KSC02:quote:Originally posted by Numenor:
Wine by itself doesnt have too terribly many calories anyway.
I'd call 660 calories per bottle quite a bit...
You wouldn't?
Given that the average american's evening meal probably consists of about 1000-1300 calories, no I wouldn't. 660 calories is a modest sized meal. Three meals of 660 calories is 1980 calories, if you engage in significant amounts of exercise, that's not a lot (i burn anywhere from 700-1500 calories on my runs--long bike rides can be even more, 2-4000). Especially whenever you actually treat it as if it's a food, 660 is manageable. If you are moderately active throughout the day(fair amount of walking--not sitting on your ass all day), and not a tiny person, you're daily caloric expenditure is probably around that exact amount(1980). All that said, who made you drink the entire bottle? Can't you at least let someone else drink one glass? Then you're in the 500's and let's assume you're planning on doing this later in the day, you compensate, maybe a light lunch or a light breakfast (or both), say 250-400 calories. If you do that for one of the meals, you've just dropped the caloric impact of the entire bottle from 660 to about 200, if you do it for breakfast and lunch, you're in the negative, and this is before you even consider exercise.
Now if you whine about the fact that drinking will make you eat more afterwards--that's your own damned fault.
Interesting points you make, numenor.
I DO enjoy sharing my bottles of wine. However, most any meal I share wine with, we 'average' a bottle each in overall intake. Add that (660 calories, appox.) to the already festive meal of 1000-1300 and you're at 1660 - 1960 calories.
Now if you're JUST drinking, well, that's another issue.
Still, a feast, and yes, quite a few calories. Everyone's metabolism is different, I'll be the first to admit. Just a general outlook I feel that's difficult to argue. But that IS just my opinion, I realize.
I DO enjoy sharing my bottles of wine. However, most any meal I share wine with, we 'average' a bottle each in overall intake. Add that (660 calories, appox.) to the already festive meal of 1000-1300 and you're at 1660 - 1960 calories.
Now if you're JUST drinking, well, that's another issue.
Still, a feast, and yes, quite a few calories. Everyone's metabolism is different, I'll be the first to admit. Just a general outlook I feel that's difficult to argue. But that IS just my opinion, I realize.
So you exercise enough to compensate or compensate by not doing that every single day, or even every single week. You'll find if you run, and get your mileage up to 40+ a week...well, there's not a lot you havee to worry about at that point.
Additionally, when you have large festive festive meals plus lots of wine, do you have other meals that day? I don't really advocate skipping meals. But if you're intaking 3-4-5,000 calories at one large meal spanning a few hours, you can make an OK argument against not eating two other standard 4-600 calorie meals that day. Eat some fiber or something instead, you'll likely need it.
My point is that any eating and drinking habits can fairly well be accounted for if you're diligent and determined. If not, then you can take the spare tire like a man.
Additionally, when you have large festive festive meals plus lots of wine, do you have other meals that day? I don't really advocate skipping meals. But if you're intaking 3-4-5,000 calories at one large meal spanning a few hours, you can make an OK argument against not eating two other standard 4-600 calorie meals that day. Eat some fiber or something instead, you'll likely need it.
My point is that any eating and drinking habits can fairly well be accounted for if you're diligent and determined. If not, then you can take the spare tire like a man.
quote:Originally posted by Spiral:
How are you doing it?
In one thread I believe Wine + Art mentioned that he's lost 35 pounds but still seems to be enjoying plenty of wines.
What's the secret??
Spiral,
For me it was several things. I do my very best to keep empty calories like sugar out of my diet. I also stopped allowing the restaurant to decide how hungry I am. The amount of food served is far too much 90% of the time here in America. I eat slower now, and just do not eat all the food served. It is not uncommon that my wife (she is in great shape) and I will split a meal at our favorite mexican food restaurant, and we never leave hungry. I now make it a habit to NEVER clean my plate, ever.
I also just eat when I'm hungry. I know that sounds dumb, but there are days when one meal is all I want, with perhaps a small snack. Many times I will grab a few almonds and half a piece of fruit. Again, I do not eat the entire piece of fruit just because. I will enjoy a few bites only.
I also get in a little exercise 5 days a week, but nothing special. I had my blood work done 38 lbs. ago and just had it checked again. My doctor is very happy and surprised how it changed in only 7 months.
Good luck!
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
I now make it a habit to NEVER clean my plate, ever.
Must have a lot of dirty dishes!
I wouldn't be alive if I followed that rule. My parents will say, there are a lot of starving children in Africa.
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
The amount of food served is far too much 90% of the time here in America.
That could very well be true for most people, but many times I have to order two entrees to make a meal.
Foghorn-
What is the point of your posts in this thread?? Congratulations to you, I guess.
What is the point of your posts in this thread?? Congratulations to you, I guess.quote:Originally posted by BRR:
Foghorn-
quote:Losing weight while still drinking wine
quote:How are you doing it?
Just answering the question......or perhaps seeking an answer to the same question, using different parameters.
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
For me it was several things. I do my very best to keep empty calories like sugar out of my diet. I also stopped allowing the restaurant to decide how hungry I am. The amount of food served is far too much 90% of the time here in America. I eat slower now, and just do not eat all the food served. It is not uncommon that my wife (she is in great shape) and I will split a meal at our favorite mexican food restaurant, and we never leave hungry. I now make it a habit to NEVER clean my plate, ever.
I also just eat when I'm hungry. I know that sounds dumb, but there are days when one meal is all I want, with perhaps a small snack. Many times I will grab a few almonds and half a piece of fruit. Again, I do not eat the entire piece of fruit just because. I will enjoy a few bites only.
I also get in a little exercise 5 days a week, but nothing special. I had my blood work done 38 lbs. ago and just had it checked again. My doctor is very happy and surprised how it changed in only 7 months.
O.K. W+A, you've inspired me to shed the post-stop-smoking 25 gained this past year. However, I'm forgoing wine on my 'single' weekends to save for the 'feasts with friends'...UGGH
Water intake increase, no plate cleaning, eat only when hungry.....Excercise started today. Broke the barrier! Feels good, but damn I'm missing the juice.
You might be on to something though