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I know restaurants close all the time, but that is no comfort.

In my area California Cuisine closed their restaurant and our now just a catering company. I will miss their bourbon pork chop with a sweet potato gratin which reminded me of lasagna, but made out of sweet potato.

Laurel, which at one point was a sister restaurant to Wine Sellar and Brasserie, was taken over by another company is closed. Changed concept from $$$ to $$ and is still owned by the same company. Sad to see it go, although I hear the new place is good.

Lose anything in your area recently?
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Originally posted by spo:
I know restaurants close all the time, but that is no comfort.

In my area California Cuisine closed their restaurant and our now just a catering company. I will miss their bourbon pork chop with a sweet potato gratin which reminded me of lasagna, but made out of sweet potato.

Laurel, which at one point was a sister restaurant to Wine Sellar and Brasserie, was taken over by another company is closed. Changed concept from $$$ to $$ and is still owned by the same company. Sad to see it go, although I hear the new place is good.

Lose anything in your area recently?


spo - add molly's, chive and jack's la jolla to your list. Chive has had a near constant chef turnover for years and peaked about 8-9 years ago. Molly's wasn't the same after Brian Sineott left for 1500 ocean and was doomed when the mariott opened up a Roy's. Jack's blew it by turning the fine dining room into an "Italian steak house" - it sucked after that. I am sure there are several others in the SD area that I am forgetting.
Red Guy, I liked Chive when it was A.J. Voytko as chef I believe. The veal chop was great but their mussels with citrus butter were even better. When he left the menu changed, then they changed to small plate format. I lost interest because the place was not the same again. I thought Chive closed 2-3 years ago. Was it more recent than that?

We had an offline at Molly's once. I liked the carpaccio but from what I understand some of the more discerning forumites actually requested to see the meat's credentials. Red Face Big Grin The schnitzel was pretty bland.
Brian left molly's about 3 or 4 years ago. The new chef (Timothy Au, I think) was there when you had the recent off-line. The food there was hit or miss under chef Au, so I guess that it should't count as a favorite that recently closed. Try 1500 ocean if you want to get an idea of what Molly's was once like. I thought that Chive closed within the last year, but I might be mistaken. We ate there last year before a Padres game.
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Originally posted by mona lisa vito:
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Not recently, but I am still in mourning over the loss of La Vielle Maison in Boca Raton a few years ago.


Me too!!!


The sad thing is it was sold as a pad for a condo building which never got built. Also, the owner's daughter had a nice wine store called Great Tastes which had a good selection of French and high end CA wine. It closed too as she sourced her wine through the restaurant's suppliers.
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Originally posted by FL Wino Spouse:
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Originally posted by Rothko:
Not recently, but I am still in mourning over the loss of La Vielle Maison in Boca Raton a few years ago.


Max
Momma Leones;
Kokomos
Grape
Aqua Grill
Spotos - Down town
Columbia
Shulas
Old Heildeburg

A very short list of northern PB County. There are closures weekly.


Dont forget Rosa Mexican and City Kitchen from DOwntown at the Gardens. I guess you have a lot of closures when there are over 100 eateries on a 4 mile stretch of road. Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by jburman82:
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Originally posted by FL Wino Spouse:
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Originally posted by Rothko:
Not recently, but I am still in mourning over the loss of La Vielle Maison in Boca Raton a few years ago.


Max
Momma Leones;
Kokomos
Grape
Aqua Grill
Spotos - Down town
Columbia
Shulas
Old Heildeburg

A very short list of northern PB County. There are closures weekly.


Dont forget Rosa Mexican and City Kitchen from DOwntown at the Gardens. I guess you have a lot of closures when there are over 100 eateries on a 4 mile stretch of road. Roll Eyes



Yes, Rosa Mexicano and Old Heidelburg are two other restaurants that I also lament closing.
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Originally posted by spo:
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Originally posted by mneeley490:

Oceanaire (technically a chain, but the next closest one is in San Diego.)
Frown


Not anymore, the one in SD is closing. Chapter 11. They had a happy hour with $1 oysters, great squid diablo, crab cakes etc. Too bad.


When did you hear this? I know they were closing underperfoming locations, but I thought that they were keeping the San Diego location open. As a side note, I read in the UT that Brian malarkey (prior Oceanaire chef) is opening up a new place in the gaslamp.
I can rattle of lots of restaurants in the Denver area that has closed recently. But I'm not really sure it's the economy. Seems like that's just a big part of that industy, especially the chef owned restaurant industry. The restaurant is or becomes the chef. They seems to work 7 days a week 52 weeks per year and just burn out! A terrible business model! The restaurant then closes and in comes another to start all over.

I can see no difference in trying to get a dinner reservation today, in one of the top rated good restaurants in town, than 2 to 3 years ago when the economy was supposingly better. It's still a tough chore. May people be buying less expensive wines or menu items, most certainly, but they are still going out to eat. If I notice a drop off in crowds, it's at restaurants that people didn't really want to go to anyway( mediocre food, wine,service, etc.), but went to because they couldn't get into their 1st or 2nd pick. More of those people are probably staying eating at home.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by spo:
I know restaurants close all the time, but that is no comfort.

Laurel, which at one point was a sister restaurant to Wine Sellar and Brasserie, was taken over by another company is closed. Changed concept from $$$ to $$ and is still owned by the same company. Sad to see it go, although I hear the new place is good.[QUOTE]

The word from some foodies at my workplace is that Cucina Urbana is a hit... I still like the sister rest... Kensington Grille, as they do free corkage several nights a week and I can walk there.. Wink
Oceanaire is still doing okay here in Indy. Makes sense. Seattle and San Diego are where great fish comes from. Too many good local options for fresh fish. Exactly why the chain would fail in San Francisco. Here in Indy, who cares? Nothing but walleye, catfish and bass for 1000 miles.

Elements closed several months ago, a local restaurant, and one of the very best meals in town. Shame, classy place. I hope R Bistro can ride it out, my pick for best local restaurant.
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
Lost a small local one about a week ago, Emory's, burned to the ground. They're looking into arson. Shame, it was one of the few decent places north of Seattle, and my wife's favorite. Put about 50 people instantly out of work.


Sounds like Benny The Torch out for insurance money
Lost our two 58 Degrees locations. I even kept a small locker, at the one on my side of town, as this allowed no-corkage access while dining or relaxing in the lounge. Vin Tabla went too, but that was really no great loss (staff really had 'tudes and menu/wine list was meh). Anthony's in the Catalinas, a WS Grand Award winner for years, is still going but the experience isn't what it once was. I hope we don't lose them.
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Originally posted by FL Wino Spouse:
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
Lost a small local one about a week ago, Emory's, burned to the ground. They're looking into arson. Shame, it was one of the few decent places north of Seattle, and my wife's favorite. Put about 50 people instantly out of work.


Sounds like Benny The Torch out for insurance money

That's always the first thing I think of, and quite often it's true. But I'm not so sure in this case, and the jury's still out. We'll probably know more in a couple weeks. It was owned by a former mayor, fwiw.
Better Half Bistro - we did not do a full offline there, but 5 or 6 of us had dinner one night. I enjoyed it. Heard bad things about the place as if it was going down hill. Good selection of half bottles and started out with $5 corkage.

EXY - Greek place that was supposed to be good.

Nicolosi's - 57 years open old school Italian restaurant.
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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:
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Originally posted by spo:
I know restaurants close all the time, but that is no comfort.

In my area California Cuisine closed their restaurant and our now just a catering company. I will miss their bourbon pork chop with a sweet potato gratin which reminded me of lasagna, but made out of sweet potato.

Laurel, which at one point was a sister restaurant to Wine Sellar and Brasserie, was taken over by another company is closed. Changed concept from $$$ to $$ and is still owned by the same company. Sad to see it go, although I hear the new place is good.

Lose anything in your area recently?


spo - add molly's, chive and jack's la jolla to your list. Chive has had a near constant chef turnover for years and peaked about 8-9 years ago. Molly's wasn't the same after Brian Sineott left for 1500 ocean and was doomed when the mariott opened up a Roy's. Jack's blew it by turning the fine dining room into an "Italian steak house" - it sucked after that. I am sure there are several others in the SD area that I am forgetting.


I was never impressed by Jack's I guess. My fave place in that area is Trattoria Acqua. Awesome.
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Originally posted by ElToro:
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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:
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Originally posted by spo:
I know restaurants close all the time, but that is no comfort.

In my area California Cuisine closed their restaurant and our now just a catering company. I will miss their bourbon pork chop with a sweet potato gratin which reminded me of lasagna, but made out of sweet potato.

Laurel, which at one point was a sister restaurant to Wine Sellar and Brasserie, was taken over by another company is closed. Changed concept from $$$ to $$ and is still owned by the same company. Sad to see it go, although I hear the new place is good.

Lose anything in your area recently?


spo - add molly's, chive and jack's la jolla to your list. Chive has had a near constant chef turnover for years and peaked about 8-9 years ago. Molly's wasn't the same after Brian Sineott left for 1500 ocean and was doomed when the mariott opened up a Roy's. Jack's blew it by turning the fine dining room into an "Italian steak house" - it sucked after that. I am sure there are several others in the SD area that I am forgetting.


I was never impressed by Jack's I guess. My fave place in that area is Trattoria Acqua. Awesome.


Funny, but Tratoria Acqua has never done it for me. I have been there several times over the years and never been impressed. Did you do the fine dining room at jack's or one of the see and be seen areas (there were 3 restaurants within one establishment). I thought that Tony did a good job in the fine dining room before they changed to the "Italian steakhouse" concept. What a shame.
Just thought of another. West Shore Bar and Grill. In Homewood. This was a VERY high end hotel and restaurant. Last two times at the cabin, the gates were closed. Don't know if it is a winter only thing, but I am suspecting not.

On the home front, the country club has stopped Sunday dinners because of low turnout, and now is serving dinner only on Friday night - and last Fridays was cancelled because of low reservations. The special events are almost always sold out though.
Just chiming in for Toronto, Canada, the fine dining scene here has been battered during this recession period. Since about 2008, we've lost a few very established highly reputed restaurants such as:

  • Susur (Susur Lee went to NYC to open Shang)
  • Truffles (at Four Seasons)
  • Perigee
  • Xacutti

And a few other established highly regarded restaurants were sold, like:

  • Splendido
  • Celestin
  • Jamie Kennedy Wine Bar
  • Crush Wine Bar (sold just this week to a hotel group)

These restaurants represented some of the city's better, if not best. We'll surely recover, but Toronto's fine dining landscape is currently a shadow of its former self.
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Originally posted by StarV100:
Stevey

I think that Jamie Kennedy and Crush are still operating though, no?


Yes they are, as is Splendido and Celestin. The 2nd list are restaurants which were sold off - i.e., operating under new ownership - and in the case of Jamie Kennedy, name changed to The Wine Bar. Another one in this category is Il Mulino which was sold last fall but still operating under same name and a different menu.
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
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Originally posted by mneeley490:
Recently lost a couple of my faves in Seattle:

Union Square Grill

Frown

Apparently this has reopened as a Sullivan's Steakhouse, a Texas chain, I hear. Anyone have any thoughts on them?


The one in Dallas is more of a bar sceene than a restaurant. Although it is less than 2 miles from my office and house, I haven't eaten there in the last two years. Too many better steak places in Dallas... not counting my own grill.
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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue

Solid, but never spectacular. Too bad. They seemed like nice people.


I got a little more information. They are closing but reopening elsewhere as a bistro and it sounds like a smaller location. Makes a lot of sense because their restaurant was nice but always had a lot of empty tables. I don't know if the menu will be the same but I think it will still be called Terra.

Red Guy, I thought they made some great steaks. They used to have a filet with chimichurri that put others to shame. When I first started eating at nice restaurants something about this place just stood out as always being worth it.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
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Originally posted by Ed Bowers:
Oak wood Grill - Palm Beach Gardens [Recent]


Spoto's?


Spotos is still open.

John phased out the steak house and opened Water Grill. Changed the decor from a nice steak house to a modern glass oriented higher end sea food resturant. Changed the inside bar a bit to be more comfortable. Still a limited wine list.

Like stupid as he has a sea food resturant only 200 yards away. So he competes against himself. Crazy
Zen Garden near me in Mill Creek. This place had been around for years, but I just hadn't gotten around to trying it. Authentic dim sum served from 10am to 3pm. I finally tried it a couple months ago and was totally blown away by how good it was. (My family were also the only caucasians in the place, so I thought it had to be popular with the local Asian community.) The food was so good, I came back a week later for more. Then, two weeks after that, I drove by and the place was shut down!! Frown
Not a restaurant, but apparently the majority of Caribou Coffee locations in the Chicago area will be closing this coming weekend. Some will remain open, and some will be re-branded as Peet's. I'm a little sad for the folks losing their jobs. There are a couple of locatons I visit on a regular basis and the employees have been very friendly.
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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:
Kensington Grill. Mixed feelings as we had some great and some mediocre meals there. The owners (Urban Kitchen Group) are planning a new operation there - hopefully better.


They did have a rep for inconsistency. Can't remember if I ate there or not. Hey, I am still mad about Chive.

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