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Originally posted by AML:
Has anyone here had them? Not a huge fan of these wines in "off" vintages.


I tasted the lineup at FWR at the agent tasting. The consensus was that these wines defied the concept of off year. Which was best was a matter of personal style preference. However, take this with a grain of salt. I have not had these wines otherwise, so my benchmark is other Northern Rhone, which is limited. 1989 La Chapelle is a benchmark in that regard for me. I don't know how the 08 La La's compared to good vintages. Nobody was disappointed at the tasting of the 08s. Rather, we were all surprised at how good they were, how much depth, complexity, structure they had.
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Originally posted by mangiare:
$110 off of 2008 Guigal La Mouline, La Turque and La Landonne at Weston rd and 401
$405 down to $295

winebid has them for $200 + %15 + shipping + exchange + duty

They are both listed at $320 regular price on the SAQ website.
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Originally posted by mangiare:
$110 off of 2008 Guigal La Mouline, La Turque and La Landonne at Weston rd and 401
$405 down to $295

winebid has them for $200 + %15 + shipping + exchange + duty


I think this is the original price, before the KGBO recycled the SKU and increased the price to that of the '09. A bold strategy for sure.
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Originally posted by VinCentric:
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Originally posted by AML:
Has anyone here had them? Not a huge fan of these wines in "off" vintages.


I tasted the lineup at FWR at the agent tasting. The consensus was that these wines defied the concept of off year. Which was best was a matter of personal style preference. However, take this with a grain of salt. I have not had these wines otherwise, so my benchmark is other Northern Rhone, which is limited. 1989 La Chapelle is a benchmark in that regard for me. I don't know how the 08 La La's compared to good vintages. Nobody was disappointed at the tasting of the 08s. Rather, we were all surprised at how good they were, how much depth, complexity, structure they had.


I tasted at FWR, I haven't tried the La La's before, I can't really afford $295 and yet I was tempted to pick up a few, though given the vintage I'd rather have another taste before pulling the trigger. 2006 D'ampuis was also yum but I think at the time of our tasting the 2007 was already on the shelf at the LCBO. 2006 La Doriane was ok at first but was great after 2 hours. Didn't take notes, but liked all, and iirc I like La Landonne the most (but I'm not always a fan of any red blend with Viognier, despite really liking the D'ampuis).
The LCBO has decided to increase the number of products in the upcoming pre-Christmas releases, so I found a bunch of price reductions at the Laird St store as they try to clear some shelf space. Today I bought:

2004 Veuve A. Devaux Champagne D de Devaux Millesime $43 (was $65)
2009 Wind Gap Syrah Griffin's Lair Sonoma Coast $53 (was $69)
2009 Lemos & Van Zeller Casa de Casal de Loivos Tinto Douro $47 (was $61)
2008 Marziano Abbona Barolo Terlo Ravera $39 (was $50)

Lots of these still on the shelf. Two others that I did not buy were:

2009 Alion $66 (was $85)
2008 JC Cellars Eagle Point Ranch Petite Sirah $43 (was $55)
All,
I'll be returning 5 bottles of Faustino I at the Heartland store (Mississauga) tomorrow evening.

If you want them and are near the airport email me: madaroza at yahoo dot com.

Regards.
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Originally posted by Wine Beagle:
All,
I'll be returning 5 bottles of Faustino I at the Heartland store (Mississauga) tomorrow evening.
If you want them and are near the airport email me: madaroza at yahoo dot com.

Regards.


I thought it was decent value and has potential to improve. But it's really straight forward right now. If anyone is expecting a 100 point wine (or 98 or 96 or 94 or ...), they'll be disappointed.
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Originally posted by VinT:
If we'd elected Tim Whodat?© it would have been privatized by now. Razz


Like Mike Harris did? Or the new mayor of Toronto has promised? 2 Cents Wink

Tough for any of them to turn their backs on $1.3 billion of profits. Then again, if they did it right, they'd probably make even higher profits.....
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Originally posted by theweb:
sigh....unless I happen to stumble across a sale at a London LCBO, the Sarnia store is PATHETIC and rarely has anything worth taking a second look at. They have a nice looking Vintages section stockpiled with 'Vintages Essentials', but their 'New Release' area is normally a wasteland, and the cabinet has a 2003 Leoville Las Cases for $359 give or take that's been standing there since 2005.

It's tough to be a wino in Sarnia!


Well put. You'll have to come out for a dinner in T.O. soon.

On the up side, you're not far from our neighbours to the south.
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Originally posted by bman:
Then again, if they did it right, they'd probably make even higher profits.....


Precisely. Which is why the government's approach to this issue has nothing whatsoever to do with maximizing tax revenue.
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Originally posted by bman:
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Tough for any of them to turn their backs on $1.3 billion of profits. Then again, if they did it right, they'd probably make even higher profits.....


Does the LCBO publish their margins? And how would they compare to a similar sized retailer in the US?
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Originally posted by winederlust:
Precisely. Which is why the government's approach to this issue has nothing whatsoever to do with maximizing tax revenue.

If not the desire to maximize 'tax' revenue, what in your opinion is driving the government's approach?
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Originally posted by VinT:
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Originally posted by winederlust:
Precisely. Which is why the government's approach to this issue has nothing whatsoever to do with maximizing tax revenue.

If not the desire to maximize 'tax' revenue, what in your opinion is driving the government's approach?


The desire not to upset/alienate a huge number of unionized employees....
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Originally posted by VinT:
quote:
Originally posted by winederlust:
Precisely. Which is why the government's approach to this issue has nothing whatsoever to do with maximizing tax revenue.

If not the desire to maximize 'tax' revenue, what in your opinion is driving the government's approach?


Social engineering is the only other reason I can think of. The ability to control the location of the stores.
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Originally posted by The Web:
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Originally posted by bman:
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Tough for any of them to turn their backs on $1.3 billion of profits. Then again, if they did it right, they'd probably make even higher profits.....


Does the LCBO publish their margins? And how would they compare to a similar sized retailer in the US?


They publish their financial statements and their margins are off the scale. I am no financial analyst but I did take a short course at Rotman Business School which studied the LCBO's financial statements compared to mostly major for-profit corporations and also Manitoba Lottery. No surprise that the latter and LCBO were the most profitable by far.

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