Nice score, looks like a store-level markdown. Thanks for sharing and welcome to the board!
quote:Originally posted by hare:
Picked up some Drouhin (Oregon) Arthur Chardonnay 2008 for $14 each at the Major Mac/Weston LCBO. Price seems too good to be true. Am I missing something?
That Chardonnay is included in the huge Vintages markdown. The LCBO site shows the price as $19.90, so I guess the store took off a few more bucks.
I got 2 bottles of 2007 Clarendon Hills Mourvedre Liandra marked down a further $3.00 to $34.50 in Huntsville. I think it was $53.00 initially.
2010 Bosquet des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape Chante Le Merle Vieilles Vignes
on VSO this morning @ $66 per. Looks like they missed the 99 RP issued last month. This is now >$ 100 per on winesearcher (K&L).
on VSO this morning @ $66 per. Looks like they missed the 99 RP issued last month. This is now >$ 100 per on winesearcher (K&L).
quote:Originally posted by vijay:
2010 Bosquet des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape Chante Le Merle Vieilles Vignes
on VSO this morning @ $66 per. Looks like they missed the 99 RP issued last month. This is now >$ 100 per on winesearcher (K&L).
Love the community spirit on these boards. Thanks for the tip. I just picked up three bottles. I am happy (even though my wife won't be).
Picked up 3 btls!
Picked up 4! What a steal!!
quote:Originally posted by vijay:
2010 Bosquet des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape Chante Le Merle Vieilles Vignes
on VSO this morning @ $66 per. Looks like they missed the 99 RP issued last month. This is now >$ 100 per on winesearcher (K&L).
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thanks for the info,picked up 2 btls.
point whores 
quote:Originally posted by VinT:
point whores
Hey sailor. New in town?
Dear point whoring friends (probably half this thread!),
Have you tasted the Bosquet des Papes Chante Le Merle Vieilles Vignes CdP in past vintages similar to 2010 -- like '04, '05, '06 or '08? I don't think I have, so am interested in your thoughts on structure, profile and alcohol perceptibility (it's probably 15% like every other one).
Have you tasted the Bosquet des Papes Chante Le Merle Vieilles Vignes CdP in past vintages similar to 2010 -- like '04, '05, '06 or '08? I don't think I have, so am interested in your thoughts on structure, profile and alcohol perceptibility (it's probably 15% like every other one).
Hi Darcy, I was also worried about the RP comment on 15% abv but I noted in the actual LCBO listing for this product that they have it at 14%. LCBO does a lot of things poorly but if they do anything right it is fully testing product and reporting abv as per their tests. I'm not suggesting that this practice continue, but in this case it is useful to clarify what the real abv is for this product.
https://www.vintagesshoponline...?lang=en&item=734244
https://www.vintagesshoponline...?lang=en&item=734244
quote:Originally posted by VinT:
point whores
BOOYA quote:Originally posted by Bruce Hayes:quote:Originally posted by vijay:
2010 Bosquet des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape Chante Le Merle Vieilles Vignes
on VSO this morning @ $66 per. Looks like they missed the 99 RP issued last month. This is now >$ 100 per on winesearcher (K&L).
Love the community spirit on these boards. Thanks for the tip. I just picked up three bottles. I am happy (even though my wife won't be).
Vijay can sniff a bargain between the scratches on a penny.
If he ever leaves his current employer, expect him to show up on Auction Kings or the Shopping Channel.
Too right, mate. I love me a good deal. 
well... so much for my self-imposed buying moratorium.... 3 bottles of the point whore juice.
at least it wont be awkward when i buy beaucastel next week.
on the plus side (i think) i lasted 3 days.
at least it wont be awkward when i buy beaucastel next week.
on the plus side (i think) i lasted 3 days.
What is the alcohol percentage on that? VSO says 14% (which is usually) wrong, and RP says "at least 15%".
Not sure why you think they usually get the abv wrong, this is something they test every shipment. At any rate, we'll have to see what's labeled on the product when it is received.
PS:
http://forums.winespectator.co...6091161/m/1517005632
PS:
http://forums.winespectator.co...6091161/m/1517005632
Who is gonna "take one for the team" and crack a bottle? I ordered some but don't let me stop anyone.
I have a hard time believing any CdP is under 14.5% abv these days. I was in QQ last night, looking at all the CdPs they have, and most of the '08s (not as ripe as '07s or '09s) were in the 15-15.5% abv range.
Given that, and specifically here the high percentage of Grenache in the assemblage, I have a hard time believing the Bosquet des Papes VV will be under 15%.
So, again, who is cracking the first bottle?
I have a hard time believing any CdP is under 14.5% abv these days. I was in QQ last night, looking at all the CdPs they have, and most of the '08s (not as ripe as '07s or '09s) were in the 15-15.5% abv range.
So, again, who is cracking the first bottle?
I suppose I'm officially a whore since I succumbed and bought the Bosquet.
quote:Originally posted by vijay:
Not sure why you think they usually get the abv wrong, this is something they test every shipment. At any rate, we'll have to see what's labeled on the product when it is received.
PS:
http://forums.winespectator.co...6091161/m/1517005632
Maybe because I have gone to a store looking for a specific bottle I found online, only to get there and see the ABV on the bottle does not match what was posted online?! This has happened on several occasions. I understand they test it, but they sure as hell don't make the correct information available online.
quote:Originally posted by DoktaP:
I suppose I'm officially a whore since I succumbed and bought the Bosquet.
don't worry Dok, we all did.
I haven't cracked...yet.
quote:Originally posted by AML:
I haven't cracked...yet.
I'm not even a huge fan of CDP (yet) but I'm sooooo weak.
must...not...buy...99 point...wine...
also picked up 2 Tabali Payen.
quote:Originally posted by mangiare:quote:Originally posted by AML:
I haven't cracked...yet.
I'm not even a huge fan of CDP (yet) but I'm sooooo weak.
I've seen you posting that you've popped some very nice bottles, which are arguably some of the best examples of CdP. If you didn't like those, maybe it's not your cup of tea...
quote:must...not...buy...99 point...wine...
Well said captain Kirk, but logic would dictate that the value is well represented and the possibility of further improvemnet exist. Jim, it is your choice, and as your friend, it would be my suggestion that you yield to the masses and succumb to the fruit of the vine. Your friend.
Spock
quote:Originally posted by DoktaP:quote:must...not...buy...99 point...wine...
Well said captain Kirk, but logic would dictate that the value is well represented and the possibility of further improvemnet exist. Jim, it is your choice, and as your friend, it would be my suggestion that you yield to the masses and succumb to the fruit of the vine. Your friend.
Spock
honestly, not even remotely interested....if the CNDP aint Rayas, I aint buying it.
Just to add a further inconsistency the LCBO site says 13.5% which seems all but impossible.
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo-ear/l...EN&itemNumber=734244
K&L says 14.5%
http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=1084623
http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo-ear/l...EN&itemNumber=734244
K&L says 14.5%
http://www.klwines.com/detail.asp?sku=1084623
quote:Originally posted by DoktaP:quote:must...not...buy...99 point...wine...
Well said captain Kirk, but logic would dictate that the value is well represented and the possibility of further improvemnet exist. Jim, it is your choice, and as your friend, it would be my suggestion that you yield to the masses and succumb to the fruit of the vine. Your friend.
Spock
Dammit, Jim! I'm a doctor, not an ATM for those bureaucrats at the LCBO!!
You're right Bones. Steady as she goes, Mr. Sulu! We're not buying anything today!
quote:Dammit, Jim! I'm a doctor, not an ATM for those bureaucrats at the LCBO!!
You're right Bones. Steady as she goes, Mr. Sulu! We're not buying anything today!
quote:Originally posted by AML:quote:Originally posted by mangiare:quote:Originally posted by AML:
I haven't cracked...yet.
I'm not even a huge fan of CDP (yet) but I'm sooooo weak.
I've seen you posting that you've popped some very nice bottles, which are arguably some of the best examples of CdP. If you didn't like those, maybe it's not your cup of tea...
Maybe you're right. Just too many palates I respect that seem to enjoy the stuff leading me to believe my epiphany is forthcoming.
quote:Originally posted by VinT:
must...not...buy...99 point...wine...
I can hear the chatter all the way to Vienna!
quote:Originally posted by on the wine:quote:Originally posted by VinT:
must...not...buy...99 point...wine...
I can hear the chatter all the way to Vienna!
Negatory. I passed on it and my moratorium is intact.
I ordered 2 – sign me up as a point whore! Here’s how I justify it. 2010 was a great vintage for the Rhone and $66 for a potential two-decade cellar dweller is fine with me. Also, when a renowned wine critic like Parker who tastes thousands of wines year in and year out decides to change his original point range from 94-96 to a near perfect score of 99… then I’ll take a chance on two bottles having not tasted it.
In my experience, I tend to agree more with Parker’s scores in C9dP more-so than in the other Rhone regions (Gigondas, Vacqueyras etc…) as they are usually scored far too high!
What I do find interesting is that Parker seems to be increasing his scores for the 2010 C9dP vintage…
Domaine Bosquet des Papes Chante le Merle Vieilles Vignes – 94-96 now a 99
Vieux Donjon – 93-95 now a 96
Beaucastel – 92-94+ now a 95
Clos des Papes – 96-98 now a 99
Etc…
Maybe he was battling a head cold in 2011??
In my experience, I tend to agree more with Parker’s scores in C9dP more-so than in the other Rhone regions (Gigondas, Vacqueyras etc…) as they are usually scored far too high!
What I do find interesting is that Parker seems to be increasing his scores for the 2010 C9dP vintage…
Domaine Bosquet des Papes Chante le Merle Vieilles Vignes – 94-96 now a 99
Vieux Donjon – 93-95 now a 96
Beaucastel – 92-94+ now a 95
Clos des Papes – 96-98 now a 99
Etc…
Maybe he was battling a head cold in 2011??
If Parker is raising his scores on 2010 then 2009 will have to be re-baselined on a 105 point scale. Wasn't that a "best ever" vintage for him?
Scores aside (pretty well only Tanzer and Jancis resonate with me, and their scores venture less often in the 95+ or 18/20+ ranges), the current CdPs are constructed so differently than the '94s, '01s or even '05s I remember tasting on release (I am that much of an old(er) fart, and have gone back to tastings notes). The lack of structure in many CdPs, plus the wide-spread cough syrup sweetness and noticeable alcohol (15.5-17%) all turn me totally off.
I suppose the only positive is that a decade from now, when many of us crack the first bottles of the 2010s we purchased, should the wines taste unbalanced and not reflect the terroir of CdP, the scores will help bolster the secondary market i.e. Vintages auctions and we can flip them.
Interesting thoughts, but I digress...
Scores aside (pretty well only Tanzer and Jancis resonate with me, and their scores venture less often in the 95+ or 18/20+ ranges), the current CdPs are constructed so differently than the '94s, '01s or even '05s I remember tasting on release (I am that much of an old(er) fart, and have gone back to tastings notes). The lack of structure in many CdPs, plus the wide-spread cough syrup sweetness and noticeable alcohol (15.5-17%) all turn me totally off.
I suppose the only positive is that a decade from now, when many of us crack the first bottles of the 2010s we purchased, should the wines taste unbalanced and not reflect the terroir of CdP, the scores will help bolster the secondary market i.e. Vintages auctions and we can flip them.
Interesting thoughts, but I digress...
quote:
Negatory. I passed on it and my moratorium is intact.
count me jealous.
so many points... sooooo weak......
Crap! They are all gone! 
I have yet to taste any 2010s but in a hot and ripe vintage, I tend to stick to the traditional style of CDP made by some domaines.