I am thinking of investing in some good glasses for drinking and tasting purposes. Some of them would be for my "neophyte" guests over certain occasions.

Obviously, if I have my way, I would have the Riedels but they are so steep in prices and it only takes one false move and there goes your hundred-dollar glass.

The International Standards Organization (ISO) glass seems a lot smaller than the Riedel in size.

Anyone had some experience comparing glasses to get the most bang for your buck?

Should I get a few Riedels (for personal use) and the rest by Speigelau or ISO?


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Hi Thor,


Everyday glass go the ISO, they are excellent, look well on the table and of course are designed for "tasting" wine. They cost $NZ3.38 a copy.
If you can get the XL5 (125ml) as they are just that little bit taller and therefore look better than the standard XL4 (120ml).

For special occasions chose the Riedel Vinum series (more robust than the Sommalier series and almost as good), in the shape of the wine you drink most. Remembering that this will be the wine you may also splurge on as far as quality (price) goes. The Vinum Pinot glass is $NZ80 retail.

Spiegelau are as expensive here as the Riedel, thogh this may not apply north of the Peanut Border.

Anothe good series is Orrefos "Susan" for red and "Illusion" for white They cost me $Aus5.00 each, at D.J.'s (but 25 years ago). I use these for my everyday as I can't take them with me (no pockets in a shroud). Wink
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can you tell the difference when holding one with eyes closed? i can. and i still choose Speigelau on Amazon.com. Riedels are for metrosexuals. Big Grin

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I suppose, if everything were even, the weighting of Reidel Vinums would cause me to have a slight preference for them. Of course, not everything is even. For $8-$10 dollars/glass I think the Spigelau (Vino Grande) are just as good as the Reidels. Amazon occasionally runs rediculous deals on Spiegelaus. The Speigelau Authentis series is very sturdy, also about $10 dollars/glass and about as good as the Vino Grandes. The difference is that Amazon occasionally charges $2.50/glass for these. I would check out their webpage to see what deals they are running.

IMO, it is a FAR better use of money to have Spiegelau Bordeaux AND Burgundy glasses than to have just one set of Riedels. And, you could really have Spiegelau Bordeaux, Burgundy, and Chianti glasses for just a little more than for one set of Riedels.

FWIW: I also have a few Riedels and whenever I have company and do a taste-test comparison, the Riedels always seem to focus the wine on the palate a bit better and produce what seems to be a slightly more full bodied and powerful drinking experience. The Spiegelaus, on the other hand, give more aromatics, more complex aromatics, and seem to produce a more nuanced drinking experience. No one has ever had a significant preference for either glass, other than the occasional preference based upon weighting.


"What contemptible scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch?" -- W.C. Fields
I used to be completely loyal to Riedel, thinking since they invested so much into research that they deserve the spoils. They lost me, however, when they created the "Restaurant" line which don't break as easily, AND which you and I cannot buy. Mad I've replaced all of my broken Riedel Vinum Burgundy and Bordeaux glasses with Spiegelau, and I'm quite happy with them. Less lead in the glass (big deal), essentially the same shape, thicker stems, about half the price - works for me! Obviously, they get my recommendation. Good luck!

De gustibus non est disputandum.
Find a frendy restaurant and ask them to order for you. Riedel has a restaurant only series that is very affordable.

Only the mediocre are always at their best.
Since everyone is talking glassware, does anyone else have an opinion of the Schott-Zwiesel "Diva" stems? These are the ones from titanium, not lead, that are supposed to resist breakage. I have learned (the hard way) that only the bowls are this fantastic titanium. The stems and feet are still very delicate.

As for the tasting component, I think they offer a decent concentration of flavors and aromas for their individual shapes. I didn't pay Riedel prices, so I didn't expect Riedel quality.

I bought them also on the neophyte idea that they might be safer for some of my over-zealous Wineaux friends. Alas, they have an Achille's heel...or stem, if you will.

Anyone else got these, or am I the only one?


I've not drank out of the Schott-Zwiesel, but I have drank out of the Tritan titanium-based glasses (about $10/glass at Wine Enthusiast) and they are quite good. Maybe just a hair less good than the Spiegelaus, but they are also very aesthetically pleasing, so, if breakage is an issue....


"What contemptible scoundrel stole the cork from my lunch?" -- W.C. Fields
Consensus on the overall price/quality/performance seems to point at the Spiegelaus.

I might also check to see if I can find some commercial quality Riedels.

Appreciate the feedback from you all.


For yourself,

Riedel Vinum Extreme.

For guests and everyday whatever,

Spigelau Authentis (Amazon sales... $2/glass).


"Drink up, me hardies, YO HO!"
I have Riedel Vinums and Sommelier Series as well as Speigelau Vino Grandes, ISO Expert Tasting glasses and a bunch of other Spiegeuals.

Forget about the Sommelier Series as the Bordeaux glass for example is $60+ per glass and is by far the most fragile glass I have ever used. I am literally afraid to touch them let alone wash them.

The Riedel Vinum and Spiegelau Vino Grande (the Bordeaux version) are almost exactly the same and the Spiegelau glasses are much cheaper. The Spiegelau has a thicker stem (which is better for cleaning as they are less fragile than the Vinum), a bit different base and the bottom of the bowl is a tiny bit different. Wine does seem to taste a bit better from the Vinum for some strange reason.

The Spiegelau ISO glass is great. It is sturdy and is dishwasher safe. I paid $30-35 CAD for a 6 pack ($20-25US) and they are probably even cheaper in the US.

I also have Spiegelau Riesling glasses, champagne glasses and a red wine glass that is a rip off of the Riedel extreme glass. All of them are great glasses and tend to be my everyday glass as they are relatively cheap to replace.
I just received a 6-pack of Speiglau Authentis Burgundy glasses, and they are amazing! Beautiful weight, very good size, and that perfect sound when you do a toast. I highly recommend them.
Originally posted by SisterLucy:
Since everyone is talking glassware, does anyone else have an opinion of the Schott-Zwiesel "Diva" stems? These are the ones from titanium, not lead, that are supposed to resist breakage. I have learned (the hard way) that only the bowls are this fantastic titanium. The stems and feet are still very delicate.

These are actually my glasses of choice. They cost a fraction of what either Riedel or Spieglau cost, they are very elegant looking as they are have very long stems and large bowls, and break far less than Riedels Sommelier series. I have used them for about three years now, and only my mother-in-law has managed to break one during washing. Two Thumbs UP!!!

If you want to make God laugh, tell him your future plans. -Woody Allen
Take a look,
Amazon is offering the Spiegelau Vino Grande Magnum Bordeaux glass for $41.99, and a set of Vino Grande Burgundy glasses free!
I may be wrong, but isn't the Vino Grande series a step above the Authentis?

"...You are in my blood like holy wine,
You taste so bitter, and so sweet.
I could drink a case of you,
And still be on my feet,
And still be on my feet..."
While many people prefer the Vino Grande, they are normally slightly cheaper than the Authentis (at least according to the other online merchants I looked at), implying that they are in fact a "step down". I have both and prefer the Authentis but find them to be slightly less sturdy than the Vino Grande. Amazon has been doing the Vino Grande deal for a while, but be sure they don't charge you double -- I had to call to get them to correct my order.

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