Is it "sure - oz" or "sheer - as"?

It depends on whether you have a Georgia/southern accent.
If you do its..........SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRAZZZZZZZZ
Irwin

"Life is short.....start with the dessert."

But I seem to remember learning in elementary school (this'd be third year college stuff in Maryland, I'm sure) that Maryland is (was?) in the South.

Semper ubi sub ubi!

Golf&ZinNut:
Ever read the Barbara Fritchie poem? Maryland was nominally in the south, but there were alot of northern sympathizers. It was pretty mixed.

Irwin

"Life is short.....start with the dessert."

So your defense is that your ancestors had a problem with commitment? What's that?

Let's talk about something more important... where do you play golf, and what's your handicap?

Semper ubi sub ubi!

The proper Australian pronunciation is SH - raz

All vowels are strangled at birth down here, and the ones that survive are stunted sickly fellows.

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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer

I´ve never even thought about how it should be pronounced, but I´ve always said SHEEERAAH, or something like that. Tricky these darn phonetics... But come to think about it, it might be better with a pronounced Z at the end...? Since it´s not French but English....?

Agree with Pauly: not too much of the 'i'.

Lady K has started the website: www.KillerB.biz

It's not English, it's Persian.
It may have sounded Shuhruhz originally.

Anyway, don't call it names, drink it (or in Pauly's case: make it!).
Er... ànd drink it.

On the other hand it can just be the misspelled French Syrah.

And by the way, I still don't understand why - in French - Syrah is one of the few feminin grapes.
La Syrah, where it's le cabernet, le pinot, le cinsault, le ... well, you get the picture by now. Anyone knowing any French ethymology around here?

You can bet yer ass it's shiraz...

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"I've gotta be honest with you, guys. I need more cowbell."

A friend of mine from Iran says the proper pronunciation is Sheer-ahhz. This is only necessary, he says, if you are using it in the context of Persian geography.

My Aussie winemaker acquaintances all called it SHRAZ, mate! (with the "a" prnounced like the "a" in "as.")

Golf&Zin Nut:
I play a variety of courses around Baltimore. Don't belong to a club. I usually shoot around 90. I break 90 about 35% of the time. Had an 80 last year---low round ever.
The confederates were parading through Frederick, Maryland. Barbara Fritchie, an elderly union sympathizer, unfurled a US Flag from her second story window. The rebs took aim. But Stonewall Jackson, who was in command, stopped them, saying (at least according to the poem):
"Who touches a hair on yon grey head
Dies like a dog...March on," he said.

Irwin

"Life is short.....start with the dessert."

Say what you want about those rebs, but few will argue that Jackson, Lee, Burnsides, etc. were honorable men. They were also, on the whole, much better military minds than the North could offer up.

If you're ever in ATL, look me up, we'll tee it up (jaycain@mindspring.com).

Semper ubi sub ubi!

I think the North wished Ambrose Burnsides did go South.

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The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. -Herbert Spencer

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Originally posted by Pauly:
The proper Australian pronunciation is SH - raz

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Pauly,

Yep, but if its plonk its SH (it) - raz.

Cheers
Ric
torbwine.com

That's what so amazing about this forum. You ask about the pronunciation of a grape name and you end up in the middle of the civil war, discussing golf courses.

What I hate is when people get the synonyms mixed up and pronounce it SHEE-RAH.
....hate that
pete

www.peterhowlandwines.com

I don't care what you call it, just pour me another glass.


(Yes, I am bored at work...)

check here for shiraz pronunciation....

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www.mojorib.com

It bugs me that WS advices to pronounce 'Clos' as rhyming on 'go'. No need to find close rhymes - if you prounounce it "Claw" you're as close as you're ever going to get to the correct pronounciation. They've done it before, and I've complained to them before.

WS Question of The Day - What Does Clos Mean?

Pronouncing it rhyming on 'go' is how the Brits are stereotyped in the TV-series The French Underground.

Tbird, where do you come up with all those sites?

That one's good.