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Originally posted by Seaquam:
I'm looking at replacing my 22-year old Ducane grill for this summer. I like the Weber Genesis, but am presently wondering whether it's worth the extra tariff to get the Summit series. Either way, a stainless steel, natural gas model with side burner-- I'm hoping it'll be the last BBQ I'll ever have to buy. Smile


Seaquam, Other than the Stainless V/S Enameled steel the difference between Genesis and Summit is the size and amount of bells and whistles. The construction is the same.
Genesis are 3 main burners and Summits are 4 or 6 main burners.

If you are looking at Enamelled it's very resistant as long as you don't dent it, and even then they resist well.
I had my Black Genesis for 10+ years and gave it to my Brother in law and he had it for another 5+ years.

I'm on my second Summit and the first one is 10 years and still going. We use it for lunches and events at our store.

I find their designs to have improved to the point if you maintain your BBQ it will last at least 15 years with no issues.

The one thing I like is their service. Should you need parts under warranty it's never a problem.

Feel free to contact me if you want more info!
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Originally posted by Seaquam:
I'm looking at replacing my 22-year old Ducane grill for this summer. I like the Weber Genesis, but am presently wondering whether it's worth the extra tariff to get the Summit series. Either way, a stainless steel, natural gas model with side burner-- I'm hoping it'll be the last BBQ I'll ever have to buy. Smile


Hey if you can handle the price, and have the room, go for the Summit.
ive been a Weber fan all my life... we just moved and my 10+ y/o Genesis didn't survive the trip and instead of re-upping another i ended up getting a Broil King. now, i've only had the grill for about 3 weeks but so far i'm extremely impressed. build quality seems to be on par with Weber and for a measurable amount of less money. same warranty as Weber too. if you're in the market for a Weber i'd seriously consider Broil King... and Seaquam, they are made in Canada! Wink

http://www.broilkingbbq.com/grills/signet/signet_320
I too am in the market for a gas grill, but I'm really confused about this "Infrared Technology" feature that some grills have now. I've read up on it online a little bit, but I guess I'm obtuse and still not getting it... What is it all about and is it worth getting?? I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money as I really only need to get at most 5 years out of a grill, but I'd like it to cook well while I do have it. I'm looking at this off-brand one from the Home Depot, but I can't tell if this infrared thing is a ploy or whether it will help me cook better food. Here is a link to the grill I'm looking at:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Nex...-720-0882A/206362558
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Originally posted by RVARob:
I too am in the market for a gas grill, but I'm really confused about this "Infrared Technology" feature that some grills have now. I've read up on it online a little bit, but I guess I'm obtuse and still not getting it... What is it all about and is it worth getting?? I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money as I really only need to get at most 5 years out of a grill, but I'd like it to cook well while I do have it. I'm looking at this off-brand one from the Home Depot, but I can't tell if this infrared thing is a ploy or whether it will help me cook better food. Here is a link to the grill I'm looking at:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Nex...-720-0882A/206362558


infrared just means someone stuck something between the fire and your food.

like if you were to use your stove top, the pots and pans in the way of the fire cooking your food directly
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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:
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Originally posted by g-man:
my charcoal grill doesnt have them fancy "infrared burners"

sears just fine ;-)


Big Grin My gas grill fires up with the push of a button. No need for matches and a charcoal chimney. Razz


haha, it's called a 6 pack of beer
the food is more flavorable after people have been drinking =)
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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
Ours rusted out last weekend - need to replace. Will probably get another cheapie - last one lasted 5.5 years


That's what we just did. Since I don't have a big porch, it sits outside with a cover and can't fathom spending big $ on one. Florida humidity is never kind to anything anyway..even covered.
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Originally posted by Rothko:
Bought a Weber for the house. I am glad to have done so. It's well built and hopefully is going to last at least a decade.

If it only lasts a decade, then you got a lemon. Smile
I believe I'm on year five of my Genesis. I don't cover it, and it's on the balcony year-round for Chicago weather. Nothing has deteriorated.
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Originally posted by PD2K:
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Originally posted by g-man:
Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"

OMG


http://homeguides.sfgate.com/t...as-grill-103175.html

i must admit this is anecodtal (and i had one too many rum drinks last night) even on my part as i dont know anything well enough about steel

but my understanding is that the old webers using 304 grade steel lasts alot longer than newer webers that are made using 430 steel
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Originally posted by g-man:
Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"


Where did you read that?? I can't find anything online that says they changed anything.

My wife purchased one for me in June, and it really feels like a high quality piece of equipment. The overall construction, weight, and sturdiness makes e Char-Broil or whatever else seem like total junk. Not to mention, the thing gets SCARY hot. If I crank up all of the burners, including the "Sear Station" it gets up over 750F in less than 10 minutes.
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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:
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Originally posted by g-man:
Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"


Where did you read that?? I can't find anything online that says they changed anything.

My wife purchased one for me in June, and it really feels like a high quality piece of equipment. The overall construction, weight, and sturdiness makes e Char-Broil or whatever else seem like total junk. Not to mention, the thing gets SCARY hot. If I crank up all of the burners, including the "Sear Station" it gets up over 750F in less than 10 minutes.


just take a magnet to it

if the magnet sticks it's 430 grade steel

if it doesnt it's 304 grade (which has a much higher chromium count) giving it more rust protection

430 grade doesnt mean bad, considering weber does beef up the thickness compared to the cheapies. (you pay more for more steel)
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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:

Where did you read that?? I can't find anything online that says they changed anything.

My wife purchased one for me in June, and it really feels like a high quality piece of equipment. The overall construction, weight, and sturdiness makes e Char-Broil or whatever else seem like total junk. Not to mention, the thing gets SCARY hot. If I crank up all of the burners, including the "Sear Station" it gets up over 750F in less than 10 minutes.


Agreed! My Weber just gets hotter than hell in the first few minutes. The stuff I grilled this summer was just perfect every time, no matter where I placed it on the grates. Steaks are pristine.
heh i bought a cheap charbroil cuz i didnt want to pay up for a weber

and today lowe's sent me this mail say 1 day only sale.

so i walk in and bam right on the side. Made in China.

then i walked out with out a weber.

as with the pegau, who knows, maybe the Euro may survive after brexit

muhahhahahahaha

now that yer solo, swing by ny!
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Originally posted by g-man:
heh i bought a cheap charbroil cuz i didnt want to pay up for a weber

and today lowe's sent me this mail say 1 day only sale.

so i walk in and bam right on the side. Made in China.

I was exchanging a propane tank today at a home improvement place that had the new Weber Genesis II on display. It felt like a complete piece of crap compared to the tank-like Genesis SE we got a few years ago. I can't believe after all the years of their good reputation that they would release a Genesis like that. Oh well. I might need to take a little better care of mine to make it last even longer. Wink
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Originally posted by billhike:
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Originally posted by g-man:
heh i bought a cheap charbroil cuz i didnt want to pay up for a weber

and today lowe's sent me this mail say 1 day only sale.

so i walk in and bam right on the side. Made in China.

I was exchanging a propane tank today at a home improvement place that had the new Weber Genesis II on display. It felt like a complete piece of crap compared to the tank-like Genesis SE we got a few years ago. I can't believe after all the years of their good reputation that they would release a Genesis like that. Oh well. I might need to take a little better care of mine to make it last even longer. Wink


That's too bad. I have a Weber Genesis sitting in my garage, that performs like a freaking beast. It's only out of play because of my new built-in. I have no qualms at all with the quality.

Speaking of which, if anybody in the SoCal area needs a Natural Gas Grill, the Weber is available for cheap.

Personally I have a Weber Spirit 310 and absolutely love it. It does everything I need it to and zero issues in the almost 4 years I've been using it. Mine came with the grate cut out for the Weber cast iron skillet to sit in and I use it regularly for searing steaks on. Weber quality is still top notch in my opinion. As far size, I come of a family of 7 and we had an older Spirit that fed us all and lasted 20 years. Do your own research through https://indoor2outdoor.com/best-smoker-for-beginners/

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@jcocktosten posted:

Almost up to year 5 on the last cheapie we bought.  Using year round- 2 to 3 times a week

I can see getting away with that given your climate in FL. For me, the cheap ones would have rusted out burners in 2-3 years. The Weber Genesis we have is 11+ years old, uncovered outside and is amazingly still like brand new. Original igniter still works on the first try. It’s the Honda Civic of grills.

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