In the market for a gas grill

I love my Summit.

I have a built in Lion that has been flawless for the last couple years. I like to think once you get up to a certain price point all these work well enough to bbq and bbq evenly, no? Inferior stainless would be my biggest concern.

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Originally posted by Seaquam:
I'm looking at replacing my 22-year old Ducane grill for this summer. I like the Weber Genesis, but am presently wondering whether it's worth the extra tariff to get the Summit series. Either way, a stainless steel, natural gas model with side burner-- I'm hoping it'll be the last BBQ I'll ever have to buy.

Seaquam, Other than the Stainless V/S Enameled steel the difference between Genesis and Summit is the size and amount of bells and whistles. The construction is the same.
Genesis are 3 main burners and Summits are 4 or 6 main burners.

If you are looking at Enamelled it's very resistant as long as you don't dent it, and even then they resist well.
I had my Black Genesis for 10+ years and gave it to my Brother in law and he had it for another 5+ years.

I'm on my second Summit and the first one is 10 years and still going. We use it for lunches and events at our store.

I find their designs to have improved to the point if you maintain your BBQ it will last at least 15 years with no issues.

The one thing I like is their service. Should you need parts under warranty it's never a problem.

Feel free to contact me if you want more info!

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Originally posted by Seaquam:
I'm looking at replacing my 22-year old Ducane grill for this summer. I like the Weber Genesis, but am presently wondering whether it's worth the extra tariff to get the Summit series. Either way, a stainless steel, natural gas model with side burner-- I'm hoping it'll be the last BBQ I'll ever have to buy.

Hey if you can handle the price, and have the room, go for the Summit.

Hestan outdoor grills have been getting a lot of buzz.

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Originally posted by GlennK:
Hestan outdoor grills have been getting a lot of buzz.

same heston owns a winery in napa

ive been a Weber fan all my life... we just moved and my 10+ y/o Genesis didn't survive the trip and instead of re-upping another i ended up getting a Broil King. now, i've only had the grill for about 3 weeks but so far i'm extremely impressed. build quality seems to be on par with Weber and for a measurable amount of less money. same warranty as Weber too. if you're in the market for a Weber i'd seriously consider Broil King... and Seaquam, they are made in Canada!

http://www.broilkingbbq.com/grills/signet/signet_320

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Originally posted by GlennK:
Hestan outdoor grills have been getting a lot of buzz.

Probably same price point as DCS or Kalamazoo.

I too am in the market for a gas grill, but I'm really confused about this "Infrared Technology" feature that some grills have now. I've read up on it online a little bit, but I guess I'm obtuse and still not getting it... What is it all about and is it worth getting?? I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money as I really only need to get at most 5 years out of a grill, but I'd like it to cook well while I do have it. I'm looking at this off-brand one from the Home Depot, but I can't tell if this infrared thing is a ploy or whether it will help me cook better food. Here is a link to the grill I'm looking at:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Nex...-720-0882A/206362558

Is that like when the Predator used his lasers to heat his wrist knife?

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Originally posted by RVARob:
I too am in the market for a gas grill, but I'm really confused about this "Infrared Technology" feature that some grills have now. I've read up on it online a little bit, but I guess I'm obtuse and still not getting it... What is it all about and is it worth getting?? I'm not looking to spend a bunch of money as I really only need to get at most 5 years out of a grill, but I'd like it to cook well while I do have it. I'm looking at this off-brand one from the Home Depot, but I can't tell if this infrared thing is a ploy or whether it will help me cook better food. Here is a link to the grill I'm looking at:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Nex...-720-0882A/206362558

infrared just means someone stuck something between the fire and your food.

like if you were to use your stove top, the pots and pans in the way of the fire cooking your food directly

Thanks for breaking it down for me G-man!

I'm certainly not a wine and food expert, so it seems like saving the extra coin and just going for a basic unit is the route this burger burner should go down.

Many thanks again!!

Love my Twin Eagles 48" grill. I have had it for about 4 years and it has worked like a charm.

I use the infrared burner for searing. Works very well. My grill also has two "traditional" gas zones, so I can easily do indirect grilling when called for.

This article include a description of infrared burners: click

my charcoal grill doesnt have them fancy "infrared burners"

sears just fine ;-)

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Originally posted by g-man:
my charcoal grill doesnt have them fancy "infrared burners"

sears just fine ;-)

My gas grill fires up with the push of a button. No need for matches and a charcoal chimney.

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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:

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Originally posted by g-man:
my charcoal grill doesnt have them fancy "infrared burners"

sears just fine ;-)

My gas grill fires up with the push of a button. No need for matches and a charcoal chimney.

haha, it's called a 6 pack of beer
the food is more flavorable after people have been drinking =)

I'm in the middle of a major deck overhaul. The contractor wants me to buy a Summerset grill from him (built in). Anyone with experience? I'm getting a little squeamish about that, thinking I might go back to Weber for a built in.

Ours rusted out last weekend - need to replace. Will probably get another cheapie - last one lasted 5.5 years

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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
Ours rusted out last weekend - need to replace. Will probably get another cheapie - last one lasted 5.5 years

That's what we just did. Since I don't have a big porch, it sits outside with a cover and can't fathom spending big $ on one. Florida humidity is never kind to anything anyway..even covered.

Bought a Weber for the house. I am glad to have done so. It's well built and hopefully is going to last at least a decade.

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Originally posted by Rothko:
Bought a Weber for the house. I am glad to have done so. It's well built and hopefully is going to last at least a decade.

If it only lasts a decade, then you got a lemon.
I believe I'm on year five of my Genesis. I don't cover it, and it's on the balcony year-round for Chicago weather. Nothing has deteriorated.

Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"

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Originally posted by g-man:
Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"

OMG

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Originally posted by PD2K:

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Originally posted by g-man:
Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"

OMG

http://homeguides.sfgate.com/t...as-grill-103175.html

i must admit this is anecodtal (and i had one too many rum drinks last night) even on my part as i dont know anything well enough about steel

but my understanding is that the old webers using 304 grade steel lasts alot longer than newer webers that are made using 430 steel

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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
Ours rusted out last weekend - need to replace. Will probably get another cheapie - last one lasted 5.5 years

Cheapo grill purchased. 4-5 burners plus side, cast iron grates. Good enough

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Originally posted by g-man:
Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"

Where did you read that?? I can't find anything online that says they changed anything.

My wife purchased one for me in June, and it really feels like a high quality piece of equipment. The overall construction, weight, and sturdiness makes e Char-Broil or whatever else seem like total junk. Not to mention, the thing gets SCARY hot. If I crank up all of the burners, including the "Sear Station" it gets up over 750F in less than 10 minutes.

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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:

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Originally posted by g-man:
Thye've downgraded the quality of the steel they used though about 2 years back.

they're using the same grade steal the cheapies utilize (albeit slightly thicker).

what's the phrase. "dont make em like they used to"

Where did you read that?? I can't find anything online that says they changed anything.

My wife purchased one for me in June, and it really feels like a high quality piece of equipment. The overall construction, weight, and sturdiness makes e Char-Broil or whatever else seem like total junk. Not to mention, the thing gets SCARY hot. If I crank up all of the burners, including the "Sear Station" it gets up over 750F in less than 10 minutes.

just take a magnet to it

if the magnet sticks it's 430 grade steel

if it doesnt it's 304 grade (which has a much higher chromium count) giving it more rust protection

430 grade doesnt mean bad, considering weber does beef up the thickness compared to the cheapies. (you pay more for more steel)

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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:

Where did you read that?? I can't find anything online that says they changed anything.

My wife purchased one for me in June, and it really feels like a high quality piece of equipment. The overall construction, weight, and sturdiness makes e Char-Broil or whatever else seem like total junk. Not to mention, the thing gets SCARY hot. If I crank up all of the burners, including the "Sear Station" it gets up over 750F in less than 10 minutes.

Agreed! My Weber just gets hotter than hell in the first few minutes. The stuff I grilled this summer was just perfect every time, no matter where I placed it on the grates. Steaks are pristine.

you guys see that the new weber genesis lines are made in china?

wtf is up with the crazy high MSRP i wonder.

Where do you get this stuff? Do you have a Weber search engine checking daily? Dude, I think you have the dedication to be a Weber rep.

BTW I got divorced and my ex took three of my six 2010 Pegau's. And I'm going to have to give you one which grinds me to no end. Dammit. LOL

I did, however, get to keep the Weber. Hellyeah.

heh i bought a cheap charbroil cuz i didnt want to pay up for a weber

and today lowe's sent me this mail say 1 day only sale.

so i walk in and bam right on the side. Made in China.

then i walked out with out a weber.

as with the pegau, who knows, maybe the Euro may survive after brexit

muhahhahahahaha

now that yer solo, swing by ny!

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Originally posted by g-man:
heh i bought a cheap charbroil cuz i didnt want to pay up for a weber

and today lowe's sent me this mail say 1 day only sale.

so i walk in and bam right on the side. Made in China.

I was exchanging a propane tank today at a home improvement place that had the new Weber Genesis II on display. It felt like a complete piece of crap compared to the tank-like Genesis SE we got a few years ago. I can't believe after all the years of their good reputation that they would release a Genesis like that. Oh well. I might need to take a little better care of mine to make it last even longer.

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Originally posted by billhike:

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Originally posted by g-man:
heh i bought a cheap charbroil cuz i didnt want to pay up for a weber

and today lowe's sent me this mail say 1 day only sale.

so i walk in and bam right on the side. Made in China.

I was exchanging a propane tank today at a home improvement place that had the new Weber Genesis II on display. It felt like a complete piece of crap compared to the tank-like Genesis SE we got a few years ago. I can't believe after all the years of their good reputation that they would release a Genesis like that. Oh well. I might need to take a little better care of mine to make it last even longer.

That's too bad. I have a Weber Genesis sitting in my garage, that performs like a freaking beast. It's only out of play because of my new built-in. I have no qualms at all with the quality.

Speaking of which, if anybody in the SoCal area needs a Natural Gas Grill, the Weber is available for cheap.

I got the big Genesis a year and a half ago and had the workers run a line from the propane tank when I got my generator. I'm thrilled with it. Takes four or five minutes to get to 800 degrees. Great for one person steaks and searing larger steaks before indirect heat or and upper rack.