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First, a little background on me. For the past 20 years, I have been a CPA in the Philadelphia and Baltimore areas. I was a partner in a nationwide firm for a period of my career. At age 41, I have decided to pursue my dream and open a wine bar and grille where I can share my passion of food and wine with others. I resigned my position at my CPA firm to do this full time.

My new establishment will be called Domaine Hudson Wine Bar and Grille. We have leased premises in Wilmington that formerly housed several non-descript restaurants in the past. The kitchen is fully equipped but the dining area needs extensive renovations. We have the liquor license application in the works and hope to have that wrapped up as well as the construction renovations in two months and are shooting for an opening date of 10/1/2005.

The menu at Domaine Hudson will focus heavily on smaller, Tapas-style plates and will feature selections of artisanal cheeses and cured meats. Entrees will be limited to 5 or so plus daily specials.

We will offer 30 - 50 wines by the glass, all of which will be available in 1.5, 3.0 and 5.0 oz pours. The by-the-bottle list will initially have approximately 100 choices on it. Our initial inventory will be about 1,200 bottles but we are building climate controlled storage for 3,500 bottles to handle projected future growth. I am actively dealing with many importers whose smaller production, highly rated wines are not currently available yet in Delaware.

I am starting this venture because I am passionate about wine. I am also starting this because I am fed up with a lot of the wine service and ridiculous pricing I see at many nicer restaurants. I refuse to drink overpriced, warm red and overly cold white wines from cheap wine glasses anymore!!!!!!!!!

I still have a lot of work to do on my new venture and many of my initial ideas will change in the next few months. I know and understand that.

However, the following rules (commandments?) regarding our wine service will always be strictly enforced:

1. All wines will be served in a properly sized Riedel or Spiegelau glass.
2. Red wines will be served at 62-65 degrees F.
3. White wines will be served at 55 - 58 degrees F.
4. Champagne and sparkling wines will be served at 45 degrees F.
5. All servers will have tasted all the wines by the glass and will be able to properly describe them and recommend appropriate food pairings for them, or they will ask for additional help from another staff person to make sure you have the best experience.
6. 50% or more of the bottles on the wine list will be priced at less than $50.
7. The higher priced bottles will be the best values (by far) from a wine list price compared to retail. I have a unique pricing and EXTREMELY fair system for this that I will discuss in the near future. I want to reward, not punish, those customers who appreciate the finest wines. You will be treatly well with fantastic pricing.

My goal is to have Domaine Hudson be a place where advanced wine connoisseurs such as you can enjoy outstanding wines at realistic prices, paired with creative foods, superior service in an elegant, but relaxed atmosphere. I also want it to be a place where those with lesser wine knowledge can become more informed without being intimidated.

I am posting this message because I welcome your input about additional ways to make Domaine Hudson provide the type of positive, consistent, affordable wine experience we all seek.

I will keep you informed about the status of Domaine Hudson Wine Bar and Grille.

Cheers!

Tom
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Originally posted by benchland:
Will you be using a cruvinet for the BTG program? If so, please look into Argon instead of Nitrogen. It does cost a little more but your wine and customers will be rewarded.

Good luck with the endeavor.


Yes, we will be using a Cruvinet system for the btg. But I must confess their customer service so far in ordering and installing their system is horrible. They are scaring me.
Sound idea, good plan, however. . .

The realities of restaurant management are quite different than you may realize. Keep the scenario you described as the goal to shoot for and realize that many times things may not turn out this way. Be realistic, upbeat, positive and get a lot of sleep.

I look forward to trying your place out should I find myself in your neck of the woods.
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Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
small suggestion:
have the corkage fee policy,
$10-$15 a bottle and let oenophiles know that they are welcomed with their own bottles. The words get around in the wine loving community much faster that the place is truly wine lovers friendly.
You'll lose in "per head" profits, but you'll have a good chance to make it "in volume"


Delaware makes it nearly impossible to allow my future customers to bring in a bottle where liquor is sold. According to my legal advisors, the only way for me to do this is to apply for a separate "bottle club" license, which is an entirely different liquor license. I AM trying to find a resolution to this. If not, I will talk with my state politicians to try and get this legislation changed to allow me (and other) establishments to be able to allow it.
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Originally posted by cuffthis:
quote:
Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
small suggestion:
have the corkage fee policy,
$10-$15 a bottle and let oenophiles know that they are welcomed with their own bottles. The words get around in the wine loving community much faster that the place is truly wine lovers friendly.
You'll lose in "per head" profits, but you'll have a good chance to make it "in volume"


Delaware makes it nearly impossible to allow my future customers to bring in a bottle where liquor is sold. According to my legal advisors, the only way for me to do this is to apply for a separate "bottle club" license, which is an entirely different liquor license. I AM trying to find a resolution to this. If not, I will talk with my state politicians to try and get this legislation changed to allow me (and other) establishments to be able to allow it.


I wish you the best from the bottom of my heart and please keep us posted about the progress. I always have DEEPEST respect for people who willing to throw the comfort of 9-5 job abd venture into unknown.

Are you planning to have a website? Web advertising is one of the cheapest forms of advertising.
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Originally posted by rbond444:
A couple of more thoughts:

How did you choose the name of your establishment?

Secondly, you probably know that this is a one newspaper town and that there are restaurant reviews. It will be vital to get off on the right foot. I have some thoughts concerning the reviewer here that are probably best not expressed publicly.

Dick


Dick,

I appreciate your comments. We are working with an established restaurant owner and chef to help us with the kitchen. I am confident our food will be worthy of the wines we are serving. As a fellow Delawarean, your thoughts are especially interesting to me.
Thanks,

Tom
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I wish you the best from the bottom of my heart and please keep us posted about the progress. I always have DEEPEST respect for people who willing to throw the comfort of 9-5 job abd venture into unknown.


Same here. I am one of those people that risked my neck 7 years ago (one year before I got married - quit a successful job) to pursue my dream of owning a business - not wine related. My wife-to-be freaked! I somehow managed to pull it off, with many sleepless nights along the way. I am now one of the lucky ones who love what they do.

So, good job taking the plunge. If you love what you do, it sure helps in your chances to succeed and enjoy "the ride", even the "bumpy parts". Being a CPA is a big plus. At least your taxes will be done right. Smile

Best of luck.
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Originally posted by cdr11:
Serge -

You want the guy to allow people to bring their own wine into his WINE BAR? Boy, maybe he'll be lucky enough to get a taste of their wine and maybe they'll buy a cup of espresso and split a salad. What an honor to have "wine savvy" people for clientele at your WINE BAR! Confused Eek Roll Eyes


many reasons.

1) The point is mute now because of the laws in the state

2) when you decide to open YOUR wine bar and still wonder about the logic behind it,
I'd be more than glad sharing it with you.
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Originally posted by Hunter:
quote:
I wish you the best from the bottom of my heart and please keep us posted about the progress. I always have DEEPEST respect for people who willing to throw the comfort of 9-5 job abd venture into unknown.


Same here. I am one of those people that risked my neck 7 years ago (one year before I got married - quit a successful job) to pursue my dream of owning a business - not wine related. My wife-to-be freaked! I somehow managed to pull it off, with many sleepless nights along the way. I am now one of the lucky ones who love what they do.

So, good job taking the plunge. If you love what you do, it sure helps in your chances to succeed and enjoy "the ride", even the "bumpy parts". Being a CPA is a big plus. At least your taxes will be done right. Smile

Best of luck.


what kind of business you are in?
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Originally posted by budman:
Tom,
Good luck with this venture.

Question: Is there, or will there be, a website so we can check out the wine list? Wink


Thank you.

There will be a website. We have secured the domain name and have hired someone to help us design it. I would say that the web site is a good six weeks away from being completed. But I will let you know when it will be ready.

Cheers,

Tom
Dude, you must be on crack to think you can have a quality website done in 6 hours. You'd be lucky to have a good design done in 6 hours, let alone actual HTML pages.

I realize a wine bar site isn't likely to be very big, but still. I make websites for a living. You might be able to put some ugly, jacked up thing with Frontpage in 6 hours, but a quality website will take much longer.

(Jenn's husband, Karl)
quote:
Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
6 weeks for a website of a wine bar????????

Somebody is taking you for a ride,
with 50 wines list,
graphics,
SE submissions,
company mission,
directions,
etc,
this is a 6 hours job.


We have not engaged a designer for the website yet. I know it is very important to the business but so is my liquor license application and the renovations to the dining room and kitchen.

I said six weeks as that is when I anticipate the website to be viewed by the public. I did not mean to infer it will take six weeks to build. I do not plan on starting on it for a while.
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Originally posted by Hunter:
quote:
what kind of business you are in?


Escort Service Big Grin

I own several websites that market products and services that I own or I affiliate with others. I keep it vague, because it's confusing and you never know if the competition is listening. It's all legal though. Smile

Probably why I am on HERE so much.



ahhhhh...the man after my heart! I am familiar with sites specializing in what you do (and I don't mean ES) Wink
If DOMAIN NAMES is part of your game,
you might find more collegues at
http://www.targetedtrafficforum.com/
(by invitation only, but you can mention my name for reference)
quote:
Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
quote:
Originally posted by Jenn:
Dude, you must be on crack to think you can have a quality website done in 6 hours. You'd be lucky to have a good design done in 6 hours, let alone actual HTML pages.

I realize a wine bar site isn't likely to be very big, but still. I make websites for a living. You might be able to put some ugly, jacked up thing with Frontpage in 6 hours, but a quality website will take much longer.

(Jenn's husband, Karl)


Karl,
when did you start doing web design? I have retired in 2000, after 4 years of doing business on Internet. Webdesigners are $1 a dozen. (actually cheaper, when you deal with the companies who subcontract the design to Russia, India and China) If you want me to post URL's of those companies who:
1) will beat you by 80% in price
2) will beat you by 90% in speedy delivery
3) do the websites that make owners a week what you earn in a year

I'll be more than happy to oblige.


Nothing you've said above substantiates your ridiculous claim that a website (even a brochureware site) can be made in 6 hours.

You're right, web designers are a $1 a dozen. Especially those who care so little about their clients as to only devote 6 hours to their project.

You're not talking to some schmoe who designs piddly sites for small businesses. I do work for some of the highest traffic sites in the US Government as well as Fortune 200 companies whose employee purchases alone dwarf anything you've done. These websites don't sit on $5 a month shared servers, these people have whole floors dedicated to servers, much of which do little more than serve databases.

Don't change the subject, I'm waiting for you to substantiate your claim that a good website can be created in 6 hours. This includes:
1) Graphics (naturally the graphics have to be attractive, and not just some logo and color scheme)
2) Template(s) created from those graphics
- templates must comply with W3C markup standards for *at least* HTML 4.01 transitional
- templates must also be accessible to *at least* Section 508 of the Rehabilitation act.
3) Content inserted into those templates.
4) Site must render reliably (if not exactly) in all major web browsers from IE 5.5+, Netscape 6+, as well as Firefox and Opera - each of these both the PC and Mac versions of these browers.
cuffthis

Sorry I didn't respond to this sooner. I too am a CPA and have always wanted to do something similar to your venture. I can only commend you on having the courage to step forward and pursue your dream! Cool

I had the chance several years ago to do the same and let "reason" win out. I only wish you the best! If we're ever in the area, I will definitely drop in!
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Originally posted by preferred:
quote:
Originally posted by seanr7:
Good luck in your new venture. I have a friend that opened a wine bar here in OKC. It has been very successful.


As long as all he serves is white zin! Razz Wink

I thought you were the only guy who drank wine in Oklahoma! Are you his only customer?


Let me tell you it has been hell on my pocketbook trying to keep him open all buy myself.
Serge,

He does not have to go crazy with SEO (Search Engine Optimization). He's not selling computers. He is also local. THIS is not a "stuff the page with keywords" business. It's a Wine Bar, and it's in Delaware. How many are there? He will be in the top 3 if someone just types that in. THIS should have lots of photos and nice designs. Unlike my sites, which do not need to look elegant, his should and that should be the focus.

Being listed in community directories "What do in ______" kinda places, or restaurant/bar information sites is where he needs to be, and hopefully a good review one day from a pro.

He's in a "Word of Mouth" business mostly.

Oh, and NEVER EVER pay anyone to submit your site to "Thousands of search engines" That is all BS. There are only 5 or so engines that matter (and I would argue only 3). The others just feed off of those.
quote:
Originally posted by Hunter:

Oh, and NEVER EVER pay anyone to submit your site to "Thousands of search engines" That is all BS. There are only 5 or so engines that matter (and I would argue only 3). The others just feed off of those.


agreed on all counts.

PAY for SE submissions????
It takes no more than 5 mins to submit YOURSELF
to GOOG, YHOO and MSFT,
why would ANYBODY pay for it??????
quote:
Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
quote:
Originally posted by karlcore:
Nothing you've said above substantiates your ridiculous claim that a website (even a brochureware site) can be made in 6 hours.



nothing in your well thought retort says it can't.


Please Google for "Burden of Proof"
You, as the claimant, bear the burden to prove that which you've stated.
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quote:

You're right, web designers are a $1 a dozen. Especially those who care so little about their clients as to only devote 6 hours to their project.

quote:

you call Wine Bar site a P R O J E C T ?
no sales online,
no interaction,
no scripting,
pure HTML website is P R O J E C T?


You don't? Again, you betray your lack of care for your clients.
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[QUOTE]
You're not talking to some schmoe who designs piddly sites for small businesses. I do work for some of the highest traffic sites in the US Government as well as Fortune 200 companies whose employee purchases alone dwarf anything you've done.

oh really?
How come you are still working and I been retired for 5 years? I think I know the answer...
http://www.karlcore.com/



Congratulations. You can Google someone's name.
Look at this mess:
http://nocomments.com
You can't even manage to produce valid markup in a <500 line home page!
Deprecated markup, FONT tags, abusing tables for layout!
You sure you want to get into this conversation with me?

You couldn't dream of even understanding the CSS on my personal site.

*My* site != my client's sites. *My* site != my dayjob. *My* sidework for fun != my dayjob's clients.

But while we're on the topic of one's personal work, let's see yours.

I'm not listing my dayjob's portfolio for some messageboard kook. My clients have Alexa traffic ranks of 1,181 and PageRanks of 8.

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quote:

These websites don't sit on $5 a month shared servers, these people have whole floors dedicated to servers, much of which do little more than serve databases.

really? Have you ever been yourself at the OC? I saw the list of your past clients,
all of them can be put on shared server and still draw less than 5 MBS...
go check their traffic, Mr "high shot" Designer:
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details?&rang...ecathedralschool.com



my personal website has pushed 1.29 Gig this month.
my band's website is 3.07 Gig


quote:

quote:

Don't change the subject, I'm waiting for you to substantiate your claim that a good website can be created in 6 hours. This includes:
1) Graphics (naturally the graphics have to be attractive, and not just some logo and color scheme)
2) Template(s) created from those graphics
- templates must comply with W3C markup standards for *at least* HTML 4.01 transitional
- templates must also be accessible to *at least* Section 508 of the Rehabilitation act.
3) Content inserted into those templates.
4) Site must render reliably (if not exactly) in all major web browsers from IE 5.5+, Netscape 6+, as well as Firefox and Opera - each of these both the PC and Mac versions of these browers.


If cuff asks for designers,
I'll rec. him 5! companies to chose from. Have a nice life,
Sir
Smile


So in other words, you cannot substantiate your idiotic claim that a site can be made in 6 hours, because this is now the second time you've dodged the challenge.
quote:
Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
quote:
Please Google for "Burden of Proof"
You, as the claimant, bear the burden to prove that which you've stated.



I didn't know I was on trial.....who is the Jury?


Third time dodging the challenge.
First time dodging the challenge to show YOUR URLS (other than that horrendous nocomments.com site)
quote:
Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
quote:
I'm not listing my dayjob's portfolio for some messageboard kook. My clients have Alexa traffic ranks of 1,181 and PageRanks of 8.



oh my, now we are shy all of a sudden...I am not shy,
I am not ashamed of my friends in MUCH higher traffic places..
Smile


4th time dodging the challenge to backup your 6 hour claim.
2nd time dodging the challenge to show YOUR sites.
quote:
Originally posted by karlcore:
quote:
Originally posted by Serge Birbrair:
quote:
Please Google for "Burden of Proof"
You, as the claimant, bear the burden to prove that which you've stated.



I didn't know I was on trial.....who is the Jury?


Third time dodging the challenge.
First time dodging the challenge to show YOUR URLS (other than that horrendous nocomments.com site)


MY URLS????


Which part of
1) I am NOT webdesigner
2) I've been retired for 5 years
you do not understand?

I can give URL's of the websites which I sold, the sites which retired me,
will that do?
I am here on the boards all day and night long 'cuz I have nothing else to do,
I'll miss you after your lunch hour is over.

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