Given the facts that (1) Shanken has shut down the Cigar Aficionado forum and (2) this one is suffering as a result (in part) of this new awful format, how much longer will we be here?  I'm guessing less than a year. 

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I agree that the current format has really hampered participation on the site.  But I think that there still are, from time to time, really great posts about wine and wine-related topics.  It would be a shame to see the entire site go away.

What I'd love to see is a revamped site that is more user friendly, to bring back more people and keep the discussion about wine alive.

Rothko posted:

What I'd love to see is a revamped site that is more user friendly, to bring back more people and keep the discussion about wine alive.

If I remember correctly they got forced into this format by a European privacy regulation. They did not want to get rid of the forum but it does not benefit them much either. If you Google 'internet forums dead'  the first article that appears is titled "Internet Forums Are, Generally Speaking, Long Dead; Don't Do Them". I would hate to see the forum end and would love to see a better format draw in new users but that looks unlikely.

 

Wine Spectator changed formats to be GDPR compliant, but this specific platform was a bad decision.  There were and are other more user friendly platforms.

The combination of the disastrous roll-out of this new site, with the long delays and early bugs, was a huge contributing factor to the decline here.  The cumbersome nature of the site doesn't help either.

PH

The biggest problem I see is too many people posting about things other than wine. Yes what you ate, listened to, watched, voted for etc was a nice adjunct when things were more active but now that's most of what We've got left. We've got people here that post regularly but little or nothing about wine in years. I don't know if some of them even buy or drink wine regularly anymore. That creates an odd dynamic if not hostile environment and repels newbies. Think about this. Who is the last new regular poster that has joined the forum? Can't think of one in years

bomba503 posted:

The biggest problem I see is too many people posting about things other than wine. Yes what you ate, listened to, watched, voted for etc was a nice adjunct when things were more active but now that's most of what We've got left. We've got people here that post regularly but little or nothing about wine in years. I don't know if some of them even buy or drink wine regularly anymore. That creates an odd dynamic if not hostile environment and repels newbies. Think about this. Who is the last new regular poster that has joined the forum? Can't think of one in years

GUILTY! I used to drink 2-3 times a week, then 2-3 times a month and sometimes I don't drink for 2-3 months. Still interested in wine though and the forum was just sort of a habit from when I was drinking a lot.

To be honest I am amazed it has lasted this long already. Was never a prolific poster but have been around a long time and while I check up on a few wine sites/forums (wb, ftlop, tpf, cellartracker and winesearcher) this one seems to be on quickest decline. 

Can not stand the forum platform they went with here as well. 

also surprised with who is left.  So many familiar names are gone, and miss most of them.  I also have reduced the purchases and consumption of higher end wine.  At my age a bottle that needs to age 10 years, will be consumed by the pall bearers.  

Our MTH thread has the most posts in the last few months.  Surprised that that thread is still open and not locked.

Some of us were not too welcoming to the newbies, and when they showed up, they were abused.

wineismylife posted:

Color me obtuse.  The new format has never bothered me in the slightest.

I had some issues getting logged in initially with the new format but since that, no issues.   If this is dying it's not because of the format; it's slow death started well before the change imho.

 

Still hate the new format, and for the most part it has lead to fewer posts and visits in general.  

I think the abusive nature towards newbies has driven a lot of people away over the years.  I got roasted my first post (surprisingly by B-O) because I didn't understand how naïve the post way (trying to sell FG Bordeaux to people I never met).  I stuck it out, but a lot of people would just go away.

What PurpleHaze said is most important to me, all of the great people I've met and had the chance to offline with.  Developed some truly great friendships here.  

I don't think the new format is the main culprit either.  It may contribute to it, but the decline in the forums is due to several factors - various forms of communications such as Facebook, Group Texts that don't cost anything, lack of new members who aren't selling anything, existing members are 10 years older and probably drinking and buying less, etc.  

As mentioned in previous threads, I've met some great folks here and developed great friendships.  It does take a certain thick skin to get over the initial flaming especially back in the day.  I still remember Parcival getting hauled to the online Guantanamo for <gasp> selling mailing list bottles at cost.  Classic thread.

The format doesn't bother me.  But the loss of a lot of great forumites has kind of made it a bit less interesting.  I was thinking of some of the forumites that I met at offlines in SD that I haven't seen posting in a while, like Aphilla, Parcival, and our locals like Shane or GregT (ex-local).  I hope it keeps going and we get a bit more participation in the wine conversations...me included.

wineismylife posted:

Well as much as we lament the problem is easily solvable.  We need to post more and regularly.  We are the solution.

Good point, Joe.  And for those of us who know members who've quit posting, let's give them a little kick in the a$$ to pop in from time to time.  I can count 20 friends who I met here who either don't post any more, or post very infrequently.  Strapping on my a$$ kicking boots this week.  wiml, I'm going to let you get Sapril back in the game, though.  

PH

purplehaze posted:
wineismylife posted:

Well as much as we lament the problem is easily solvable.  We need to post more and regularly.  We are the solution.

Good point, Joe.  And for those of us who know members who've quit posting, let's give them a little kick in the a$$ to pop in from time to time.  I can count 20 friends who I met here who either don't post any more, or post very infrequently.  Strapping on my a$$ kicking boots this week.  wiml, I'm going to let you get Sapril back in the game, though.  

PH

Seeing Pianist718 for dinner sometime soon? 

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