One suggestion that was given multiple times to Robert, was to encourage the WS writers and editors to pop in from time to time.  It was good fun to have Suckling and friends join in on existing threads, and even start the occasional conversation.  It would lend credibility to the site and would certainly boost participation.  

PH

purplehaze posted:

One suggestion that was given multiple times to Robert, was to encourage the WS writers and editors to pop in from time to time.  It was good fun to have Suckling and friends join in on existing threads, and even start the occasional conversation.  It would lend credibility to the site and would certainly boost participation.  

PH

he is online now.  Maybe he will read

i forgot my password!

Curious, who acutally reads critic reviews about wine anymore?

It feels like readership at all the major publications are down.  Ebob no longer wants to do print anymore,  The internets has empowered every rando blogger to be a wine critic to throw up scores on anything and everything.

While I still enjoy talking wine with folks offline, there aren't many topics that wouldn't get rehashed.  Unless all folks want to tal about is the latest cult waiting list to sign up for.  Wine forums search on google doesnt even show up spectators on the first page on my cell phone so we don't see many new non spam users.

doubled posted:

I’ve been too lazy to organize dinners in the city.  The high corkage is a bit of turnoff.  Mostly, I am leaving it to others to organize or it’s a very impromptu Shake Shack type offlines.

uh huh.

you're welcome for that.  Imagine if you've never met me.  You'd still be in your "I can't go anywhere because i don't pay corkage shell"

I think all these points have contributed to the decline.  I have rarely posted in the last few years.  Partially because i didn't like the new format, partially because a lot of the individuals I knew better had started to drink less, so also post less. 

It would be nice to get a good boost here.  But, I also think we would need to be more accepting of newer members.  For a while there, anyone with a basic question would be torn apart for either not searching the forums first, or asking a such a simple question.

Lot's of "My shit doesn't stink" attitude
Political differences divided the forum to maybe 80/20.
Really silly topics. I mean, I'm surprised there hasn't been a "What fine spatula are you using" thread. Yet if someone new comes along with a fresh idea for discussion they are driven out by a few who think they rule this place because they either don't know the standard "protocol" of posting, make mistakes and it looks like a spam, or the royale court of the WS forum posters decided to be extra assholish on that particular day and bully up on them.
With that said, it's been a fun couple of years and there are some really nice and interesting people here. Parcival, java, longboarder, G-man come to mind as do several others, others I won't name I probably wouldn't care to meet. I see a "deactivate" button and I'm going to click that now. Adios!

winoca posted:

Lot's of "My shit doesn't stink" attitude
Political differences divided the forum to maybe 80/20.
Really silly topics. I mean, I'm surprised there hasn't been a "What fine spatula are you using" thread. Yet if someone new comes along with a fresh idea for discussion they are driven out by a few who think they rule this place because they either don't know the standard "protocol" of posting, make mistakes and it looks like a spam, or the royale court of the WS forum posters decided to be extra assholish on that particular day and bully up on them.
With that said, it's been a fun couple of years and there are some really nice and interesting people here. Parcival, java, longboarder, G-man come to mind as do several others, others I won't name I probably wouldn't care to meet. I see a "deactivate" button and I'm going to click that now. Adios!

Great post for anyone who needs an example of hypocrisy. Bye Felicia.

How long has this forum been around.  I swear I was on it in the 1980's.  On dial-up no less.  There was a ton of activity and a lot of larger-than-life characters.  Some classic rows on the weekends when the moderators weren't around.  Another site I used to participate in WestCoastWine has virtually disappeared.  Wish we had a hall of fame list of old posters.

jcocktosten posted:

I joined in 2002 I believe 

The next to the last day of 2002, actually.    Your original sign-up date is still retained in your profile page.  11-22-2003 for me.

I feel a "little" energy coming back into the forums.  Hope it will continue.

PH

purplehaze posted:
jcocktosten posted:

I joined in 2002 I believe 

The next to the last day of 2002, actually.    Your original sign-up date is still retained in your profile page..  11-22-2003 for me.

I feel a "little" energy coming back into the forums.  Hope it will continue.

PH

 

Feb 2003 for me.  Have met some fine people on the forums and in off lines. Too many to note without missing someone.  Had some wines I would never have had without the generosity of these folks, went to a few restaurants to which I  would otherwise not have gone.

Got a couple clients.

And a certain cheesecake.

 

bomba503 posted:

The biggest problem I see is too many people posting about things other than wine. Yes what you ate, listened to, watched, voted for etc was a nice adjunct when things were more active but now that's most of what We've got left. We've got people here that post regularly but little or nothing about wine in years. I don't know if some of them even buy or drink wine regularly anymore. That creates an odd dynamic if not hostile environment and repels newbies. Think about this. Who is the last new regular poster that has joined the forum? Can't think of one in years

The main reason I post rarely in wine-related threads is that after 17 years here there is little new for me to add to any discussion.  I used to post TNs regularly but then realized that my list of descriptors numbered maybe a dozen.  Having a crappy palate doesn't help!

Ha...

gregt posted:
mareff posted:

I used to post an offline event and people would respond.  Now it seems that even our NY crew does not have the time to meet.  Maybe they do not want to meet me!

Absolutely 100 percent the reason!

Finally you're getting the message!  Took long enough!!! 

 

 

Ha.. and I thought it was my charming nature that was driving people away.

 

 

bman posted:
bomba503 posted:

The biggest problem I see is too many people posting about things other than wine. Yes what you ate, listened to, watched, voted for etc was a nice adjunct when things were more active but now that's most of what We've got left. We've got people here that post regularly but little or nothing about wine in years. I don't know if some of them even buy or drink wine regularly anymore. That creates an odd dynamic if not hostile environment and repels newbies. Think about this. Who is the last new regular poster that has joined the forum? Can't think of one in years

The main reason I post rarely in wine-related threads is that after 17 years here there is little new for me to add to any discussion.  I used to post TNs regularly but then realized that my list of descriptors numbered maybe a dozen.  Having a crappy palate doesn't help!

So are you saying that after all this time drinking port that your palate can be in a commercial similar to “this is your brain on drugs”? 

billhike posted:
bman posted:
bomba503 posted:

The biggest problem I see is too many people posting about things other than wine. Yes what you ate, listened to, watched, voted for etc was a nice adjunct when things were more active but now that's most of what We've got left. We've got people here that post regularly but little or nothing about wine in years. I don't know if some of them even buy or drink wine regularly anymore. That creates an odd dynamic if not hostile environment and repels newbies. Think about this. Who is the last new regular poster that has joined the forum? Can't think of one in years

The main reason I post rarely in wine-related threads is that after 17 years here there is little new for me to add to any discussion.  I used to post TNs regularly but then realized that my list of descriptors numbered maybe a dozen.  Having a crappy palate doesn't help!

So are you saying that after all this time drinking port that your palate can be in a commercial similar to “this is your brain on drugs”? 

I think a slip of my dentist's needle many years ago that killed some taste buds is more responsible than the port!

100% the new format is why i don't post anymore and the only reason i'm writing this is because this thread compelled me to. i maybe check in once every 3-4 months now, if i remember to, just to see how the board is doing, and because of the format i'm usually only hear 5-10 min before i can't stand it anymore and leave. not that i'm anyone or my opinion matters more than others, just a single voice. good to see some familiar names kicking around.

kumazam posted:

100% the new format is why i don't post anymore and the only reason i'm writing this is because this thread compelled me to. i maybe check in once every 3-4 months now, if i remember to, just to see how the board is doing, and because of the format i'm usually only hear 5-10 min before i can't stand it anymore and leave. not that i'm anyone or my opinion matters more than others, just a single voice. good to see some familiar names kicking around.

Agreed.  So many reasons have been posted as to why interest has dwindled, but this pretty much sums it up for me. 

Another reason, for me, is that I spent a LOT of time on this site when I was exploring wines and getting to know people.  I depend more now on my own developed tastes/preference (or undeveloped if you think my tastes are for sh!t!) and the friends I've met here.  Thus, this site is not essential for me. 

HOWEVER, there should still be a regular infusion of new and younger people, just as there are on others sites (audio, esp.) that I subscribe to.  Interest in wine is huge, globally, and growing.  The fact that we are NOT attracting new people says a lot about the format and how WS (mis)manages the site.  I suppose many younger people are getting their wine info other ways and from other sources.  But, the serious young wine enthusiast surely would stay away from this anachronistic, clunky format.

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