Curious to see, since alot of the other forums usually have a bunch of forumites circling around waiting for the next big wait list to sign up for?

Is it because most of the forumites on this forum already have such great cellars filled with Bdx, Riojas, Rhones, Ports that they dont need to worry about 16% cali bombs?

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Probably. 

I’ve been contemplating purchasing a Greer to see what the hype is about. But given what that type of money can buy you in Champagne / Northern Rhone / etc, I doubt I’ll pursue it after tasting. Trujillo Reserves are literally the only CA Cabs I’m likely to be buying consistently for the foreseeable future. And I may not do that, either. 

Interesting question...I think prices have gone crazy so trying to find great wine in the $75 -$150 range.  That said...I have been on the Macdonald wait list for a while...kind of surprised I have not been freed any yet.  So much of the new stuff coming out is so expensive and I have not been blown over by much of it.

g-man posted:

Curious to see, since alot of the other forums usually have a bunch of forumites circling around waiting for the next big wait list to sign up for?

Is it because most of the forumites on this forum already have such great cellars filled with Bdx, Riojas, Rhones, Ports that they dont need to worry about 16% cali bombs?

No.

I feel it's very important to be on mailing lists so that you can post about how crazy you are to spend the money you just spent. And so that you can have the privilege of buying something.

The problem here is that WS hasn't been awarding 100 points randomly enough. Can you imagine how happy people would be if they signed up for a mailing list and then the wine got 100 points? Or WOTY?

I seriously believe it's the fault of WS and not the people on the forum. WS needs to get behind the same 3 or 4 consultant/winemakers and the same 3 or 4 vineyards to make a wine (and obviously a Cab) that tastes like the same dozen wines in the same price range. Then there would be a lot of discussion regarding the wait for the privilege of buying that wine, etc.

g-man posted:

Is it because most of the forumites on this forum already have such great cellars filled with Bdx, Riojas, Rhones, Ports that they dont need to worry about 16% cali bombs?

Ding ding ding ding ... at least the regular posters here do.  I would guess the average poster here has more experience with wine and aren't really looking for the next big one.  They just know what they like and will continue to buy it.

In my case I have a mature cellar at an ideal size for myself and PURPLE for all purposes from weeknight dinners to kick a$$ offlines so basically at this point in life I just buy to replace what I've drank.  Literally.  Drink two Spanish this month, buy two Spanish next month to replace them.  That kind of thing.

Having said all of that it naturally leads me to buy stuff I already know and like with the occasional foray outside the box and new, glitzy offerings turn me off if anything else.

Thanks G- for trying to talk wine around here for once.

I think Parcival has worn off on my palate but I quite enjoy some of these cults.  They're super distinctive, but at the same time, buy one at the cheapest price you can get because they do all start tasting the same.

In terms of price though, I see some of the wines the folks are drinking.  Diamond creek comes to mind.  that wine is never cheap.  Still isn't cheap, and probably never will be.  But I see alot of folks trying their first aged DC wine and are pretty much surprised by how much they like it.  So it's almost tough to set a hard limit on price considering wine in general is, in my opinion, a vice.  You won't find any new wines that taste like an aged DC.

g-man posted:

I think Parcival has worn off on my palate but I quite enjoy some of these cults.  They're super distinctive, but at the same time, buy one at the cheapest price you can get because they do all start tasting the same.

In terms of price though, I see some of the wines the folks are drinking.  Diamond creek comes to mind.  that wine is never cheap.  Still isn't cheap, and probably never will be.  But I see alot of folks trying their first aged DC wine and are pretty much surprised by how much they like it.  So it's almost tough to set a hard limit on price considering wine in general is, in my opinion, a vice.  You won't find any new wines that taste like an aged DC.

Well duh, even new DC doesn't taste like aged DC...

It will be interesting to try a Scarecrow or MacDonald with 30+ years of age on them (though I would put these wines in a different category from Schrader/Tusk/other cult fruit bombs)

patespo1 posted:
g-man posted:

I think Parcival has worn off on my palate but I quite enjoy some of these cults.  They're super distinctive, but at the same time, buy one at the cheapest price you can get because they do all start tasting the same.

In terms of price though, I see some of the wines the folks are drinking.  Diamond creek comes to mind.  that wine is never cheap.  Still isn't cheap, and probably never will be.  But I see alot of folks trying their first aged DC wine and are pretty much surprised by how much they like it.  So it's almost tough to set a hard limit on price considering wine in general is, in my opinion, a vice.  You won't find any new wines that taste like an aged DC.

Well duh, even new DC doesn't taste like aged DC...

It will be interesting to try a Scarecrow or MacDonald with 30+ years of age on them (though I would put these wines in a different category from Schrader/Tusk/other cult fruit bombs)

i mean that's the point, why chase the labels if you can just pay up for a btl that you know will age.  I'm acutlaly surprised alot of folks we offline with prefer Cali's instead of Bdx.

I'm with you g-man- Give me an aged Bordeaux any day of the week over a Cali fruit bomb. It bothers me that too many Cali vintners put way too much effort into creating the next big thing such that the wine they bottle isn't even close to the amount they charge. Just read the label on Tusk wines. Tusk's website is all about promoting their "Luxury" brand status.

just got my annual "No wine for you" email from SQN. Not sure if I'd buy it even if offered because I just don't love it enough for the money, but might buy it from an investment standpoint.

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