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Originally posted by Pinotlvr:
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Originally posted by scbeerman:
Beat me to it on Koufax.

Add in Tiger Woods and LeBron James and you have a trio of all time greats in their sport.


....and of course Tbird if drinking counts as a sport


I miss Tbird and wish he'd return...... Frown
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Originally posted by bman:
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Originally posted by Pinotlvr:
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Originally posted by scbeerman:
Beat me to it on Koufax.

Add in Tiger Woods and LeBron James and you have a trio of all time greats in their sport.


....and of course Tbird if drinking counts as a sport


I miss Tbird and wish he'd return...... Frown


Me too! We had some tailgates at Yankee Stadium and dinners together. Wish he'd come back.
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W+A -
I would never presume to challenge your expertise, but if Manet is twice the artist that the Father of Impressionism was, then he deserves a lot more of my attention, along with the Orsay's.


Musee d'Orsay. Cool

Obviously subjective Smile but Impressionism was birthed by the two stunningly brilliant works of Olympia & Le Dejeuner sur l'herbe. Manet's body of work was so much more than Beauty which is too much of the allure of the genre of impressionism, IMO.

Great art/artist should challenge , provoke and readapt time, space, and even perceptions of the common and uncommon.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Arsenal4ever:
W+A -
I would never presume to challenge your expertise, but if Manet is twice the artist that the Father of Impressionism was, then he deserves a lot more of my attention, along with the Orsay's.


Musee d'Orsay. Cool

Obviously subjective Smile but Impressionism was birthed by the two stunningly brilliant works of Olympia & Le Dejeuner sur l'herbe. Manet's body of work was so much more than Beauty which is too much of the allure of the genre of impressionism, IMO.

Great art/artist should challenge , provoke and readapt time, space, and even perceptions of the common and uncommon.



I'm certainly no authority on fine art-- or much of anything else-- but last fall I attended a Manet exhibit at the Pompidou in Paris, and as well went to L'Orangerie to see Monet's Water Lilies again.

I think Manet revolutionized the art world through content; I was thoroughly engaged by his wit and remarkable innovation. I think Monet revolutionized the art world through style; I was in awe of the presence, and almost majesty, of the Water Lilies cycle.

I wouldn't presume to rate one of these great artists over the other, but if I had the means to put one their paintings in my home, it would be from Manet, as I expect w+a would do. My wife, who I believe is more sensitive to art than I, would do the opposite.
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Originally posted by Seaquam:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Arsenal4ever:
W+A -
I would never presume to challenge your expertise, but if Manet is twice the artist that the Father of Impressionism was, then he deserves a lot more of my attention, along with the Orsay's.


Musee d'Orsay. Cool

Obviously subjective Smile but Impressionism was birthed by the two stunningly brilliant works of Olympia & Le Dejeuner sur l'herbe. Manet's body of work was so much more than Beauty which is too much of the allure of the genre of impressionism, IMO.

Great art/artist should challenge , provoke and readapt time, space, and even perceptions of the common and uncommon.



I'm certainly no authority on fine art-- or much of anything else-- but last fall I attended a Manet exhibit at the Pompidou in Paris, and as well went to L'Orangerie to see Monet's Water Lilies again.

I think Manet revolutionized the art world through content; I was thoroughly engaged by his wit and remarkable innovation. I think Monet revolutionized the art world through style; I was in awe of the presence, and almost majesty, of the Water Lilies cycle.

I wouldn't presume to rate one of these great artists over the other, but if I had the means to put one their paintings in my home, it would be from Manet, as I expect w+a would do. My wife, who I believe is more sensitive to art than I, would do the opposite.


This may be the only time I disagree with S. Big Grin
Yes, Olympia. . In my eyes, obviously modeled after Titian's Venus of Urbino, but both trumped by Goya's clothed Maja, of which its been said is more sensual than his naked Maja. While I am a big fan of Olympia, (and don't forget another of his masterpieces, A Bar at the Folies-Bergere), upon closer inspection in person, he seemed, to me anyway, to struggle with the execution of her left hand. It's a bit overdone, compared with the softness (!) of the immediate surroundings.

Of Olympia, interesting to retrospect...my wife noticed I loved the painting, so she bought me a note pad of it. At that time, I worked with this black gal...she was super mellow, and we got along great. She saw the note pad and commented, to the effect of, a dislike of it, due to the racial undertones. I was totally oblivious up to that point, and from that day forward, I saw the painting in a different light.
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Originally posted by Jabe11:
Yes, Olympia. . In my eyes, obviously modeled after Titian's Venus of Urbino, but both trumped by Goya's clothed Maja, of which its been said is more sensual than his naked Maja. While I am a big fan of Olympia, (and don't forget another of his masterpieces, A Bar at the Folies-Bergere), upon closer inspection in person, he seemed, to me anyway, to struggle with the execution of her left hand. It's a bit overdone, compared with the softness (!) of the immediate surroundings.

Of Olympia, interesting to retrospect...my wife noticed I loved the painting, so she bought me a note pad of it. At that time, I worked with this black gal...she was super mellow, and we got along great. She saw the note pad and commented, to the effect of, a dislike of it, due to the racial undertones. I was totally oblivious up to that point, and from that day forward, I saw the painting in a different light.


The left hand was purposely Overdone as it represents her vigina.

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