Is it just me or is it exhausting reading WS and seeing highly rated Cabs that are all over $100? I'm looking for some good recommendations for some good Napa Cabs that aren't going to break the bank. Suggestions?
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Interesting that L is the roman numeral for 50.
Lewelling.
Karl Lawrence.
Ladera
Cliff Lede
Larkmead
Lewelling.
Karl Lawrence.
Ladera
Cliff Lede
Larkmead
I thought their picks for the 2004 Turnbull Cab Sauv (about $40) and the 2004 Chappallet Signature Series Caub Sauv (about $40 as well) were spot on. I would definitely recco these two.
Levy & McCLellan
Hmm, I need 3 more Ls to get it to the $350.
Hmm, I need 3 more Ls to get it to the $350.
quote:Originally posted by sprnplr:
Levy & McCLellan
Hmm, I need 3 more Ls to get it to the $350.
Ah but you have 2 Cs in there - C=100
I've been enjoying Mondavi Oakville and Provenance, among others. Only drinking up to my '01s, but the '04 got good ratings.
I second all those L's.
The Napanook '04 is nearly the same wine as the Dominus at twice the price.
All three Hess Cabs deserve better ratings than given, in my opinion.
I second all those L's.
The Napanook '04 is nearly the same wine as the Dominus at twice the price.
All three Hess Cabs deserve better ratings than given, in my opinion.
quote:Originally posted by pape du neuf:
I've been enjoying Mondavi Oakville and Provenance, among others. Only drinking up to my '01s, but the '04 got good ratings.
I second all those L's.
I think the Turnbull '04 is not up to snuff. Have you tried it Don? It is high alcohol and odd.
The Napanook '04 is nearly the same wine as the Dominus at twice the price.
All three Hess Cabs deserve better ratings than given, in my opinion.
I have tried it - and found it neither hot nor odd as you put it. I actually found the fruit to be very pure, nice spice notes and the tannins well integrated. And for the price, IMO, very tough to beat and will benefit from a couple years of rest.
I am interested in the '04 Mondavi Oakville, however, and would love to see a TN from someone who has tried it.
2004 Drinkward Peschon Entre Deux Meres. Release price was $30, but you'd be hard pressed now to find it under $70 (because of a 94 from Parker), so I don't know if that still counts. At the release price, it was the best value for a 2004 cab out there, period.
The 2004 NeaL is pretty good.
quote:Originally posted by Dave Tong BBP:quote:Originally posted by sprnplr:
Levy & McCLellan
Hmm, I need 3 more Ls to get it to the $350.
Ah but you have 2 Cs in there - C=100
So L&M is actually underpriced by L?!?!? Damn, why did I WIML it?
2004 Corte Riva...
A few noted from the WS cab issue
Ghost Block $55 92 pts (Napa Wine Company)
Jean Edwards $50 92 pts (mailing list only)
Chappallet $46 93 pts (easy to find)
Ghost Block $55 92 pts (Napa Wine Company)
Jean Edwards $50 92 pts (mailing list only)
Chappallet $46 93 pts (easy to find)
Neal
Chateau St. Jean
Chateau St. Jean
Don P,
Note that I immediately edited out my comments on the Turnbull. I checked my notes and the '05 is the one I didn't like. I usually love the Turnbull Cab.
Note on the Drinkward Peschon. I believe the release price was $50. At least that is what I paid pre-release. WS is in error.
Note that I immediately edited out my comments on the Turnbull. I checked my notes and the '05 is the one I didn't like. I usually love the Turnbull Cab.
Note on the Drinkward Peschon. I believe the release price was $50. At least that is what I paid pre-release. WS is in error.
'04 St. Clement Oroppas is available in the $40 to $50 range, was highly rated in WS, and forumites seem to like it (see the recent thread I'm too lazy to link to).
I bought some for $40 but I haven't tasted it.
I bought some for $40 but I haven't tasted it.
quote:Originally posted by Dave Tong BBP:
Interesting that L is the roman numeral for 50.
Time to adjust the pricing on Match.
Chappellet Signature is a great buy every year at about 40. Neal and Provenance Rutherford are also excellent values most years, though each is in a pretty firm style; the Chappellet is a bit more generous so suit your palate. All 3 will be better in 5 years than they are now.
Several good ones already mentioned but here is another one;
04 Trespass. Soon to be released. Best ever Cab for them according to their owner. I have a tasting in 2 weeks. 3 pack for $ 174.
04 Trespass. Soon to be released. Best ever Cab for them according to their owner. I have a tasting in 2 weeks. 3 pack for $ 174.
I know ya gotta stop somewhere BUT, for $10 more you could be sipping on Shafer
quote:Originally posted by Dionysis:
2004 Drinkward Peschon Entre Deux Meres. Release price was $30, but you'd be hard pressed now to find it under $70 (because of a 94 from Parker), so I don't know if that still counts. At the release price, it was the best value for a 2004 cab out there, period.
At no time was the Drinkward released at $30. Thay was a typo by WS. The mailer price was $50, and the few stores that carried it shortly after release sold it for $60.
quote:Originally posted by cali wine:
Several good ones already mentioned but here is another one;
04 Trespass. Soon to be released. Best ever Cab for them according to their owner. I have a tasting in 2 weeks. 3 pack for $ 174.
tried it against their 02 cab, 03 cab, and 04 cab franc, and by my taste (and everyone else tasting) it was hands down noticably better than the others (which were also very good wines). I say buy 'em if you can.
quote:Originally posted by Don P:quote:Originally posted by pape du neuf:
I've been enjoying Mondavi Oakville and Provenance, among others. Only drinking up to my '01s, but the '04 got good ratings.
I second all those L's.
I think the Turnbull '04 is not up to snuff. Have you tried it Don? It is high alcohol and odd.
The Napanook '04 is nearly the same wine as the Dominus at twice the price.
All three Hess Cabs deserve better ratings than given, in my opinion.
I have tried it - and found it neither hot nor odd as you put it. I actually found the fruit to be very pure, nice spice notes and the tannins well integrated. And for the price, IMO, very tough to beat and will benefit from a couple years of rest.
I am interested in the '04 Mondavi Oakville, however, and would love to see a TN from someone who has tried it.
While I don't post TNs, I have tried the 04 oakville and I am pretty sure I'll be back for more. If you like the 04 napa I believe you might like the oakville a bit more. It a has a little more of everything (in a good way). What I mean is that it is a bit more complex ( I noticed more tea and floral notes), the finish is a bit fuller (the napa seemed to cut short at a certain point, possibly the mid-palate?) and also a bit sweeter, which some might not like but I think it is distinctively Napa. I enjoyed it, and at the costco price of 33.99 it was a great buy.
quote:Originally posted by lizardking:
and at the costco price of 33.99 it was a great buy.
Don't suppose you know the item number...?
I don't, I found it at the gilroy costco though in case you happen to be in the area, or don't mind making a short trip. Is that why you're asking, so you can get it? If so, you can call them for the item number.
quote:Originally posted by Dave Tong BBP:quote:Originally posted by lizardking:
and at the costco price of 33.99 it was a great buy.
Don't suppose you know the item number...?
Dave, I posted this in the Costco Alert. Sunnyvale location, Item #121049, $32.99.
You'd better get there fast because they will soon disappear.
ortiz
quote:Originally posted by oritz:
Dave, I posted this in the Costco Alert. Sunnyvale location, Item #121049, $32.99.
You'd better get there fast because they will soon disappear.
ortiz
Missed that. Thanks!
quote:Originally posted by lizardking:quote:Originally posted by Don P:quote:Originally posted by pape du neuf:
I've been enjoying Mondavi Oakville and Provenance, among others. Only drinking up to my '01s, but the '04 got good ratings.
I second all those L's.
I think the Turnbull '04 is not up to snuff. Have you tried it Don? It is high alcohol and odd.
The Napanook '04 is nearly the same wine as the Dominus at twice the price.
All three Hess Cabs deserve better ratings than given, in my opinion.
I have tried it - and found it neither hot nor odd as you put it. I actually found the fruit to be very pure, nice spice notes and the tannins well integrated. And for the price, IMO, very tough to beat and will benefit from a couple years of rest.
I am interested in the '04 Mondavi Oakville, however, and would love to see a TN from someone who has tried it.
While I don't post TNs, I have tried the 04 oakville and I am pretty sure I'll be back for more. If you like the 04 napa I believe you might like the oakville a bit more. It a has a little more of everything (in a good way). What I mean is that it is a bit more complex ( I noticed more tea and floral notes), the finish is a bit fuller (the napa seemed to cut short at a certain point, possibly the mid-palate?) and also a bit sweeter, which some might not like but I think it is distinctively Napa. I enjoyed it, and at the costco price of 33.99 it was a great buy.
Excellent. Thanks for the note!
Easy answer and readily available:
Chappellet Signature. Should be under $50.
Chappellet Signature. Should be under $50.
quote:Originally posted by lizardking:quote:Originally posted by Don P:quote:Originally posted by pape du neuf:
I've been enjoying Mondavi Oakville and Provenance, among others. Only drinking up to my '01s, but the '04 got good ratings.
I second all those L's.
I think the Turnbull '04 is not up to snuff. Have you tried it Don? It is high alcohol and odd.
The Napanook '04 is nearly the same wine as the Dominus at twice the price.
All three Hess Cabs deserve better ratings than given, in my opinion.
I have tried it - and found it neither hot nor odd as you put it. I actually found the fruit to be very pure, nice spice notes and the tannins well integrated. And for the price, IMO, very tough to beat and will benefit from a couple years of rest.
I am interested in the '04 Mondavi Oakville, however, and would love to see a TN from someone who has tried it.
While I don't post TNs, I have tried the 04 oakville and I am pretty sure I'll be back for more. If you like the 04 napa I believe you might like the oakville a bit more. It a has a little more of everything (in a good way). What I mean is that it is a bit more complex ( I noticed more tea and floral notes), the finish is a bit fuller (the napa seemed to cut short at a certain point, possibly the mid-palate?) and also a bit sweeter, which some might not like but I think it is distinctively Napa. I enjoyed it, and at the costco price of 33.99 it was a great buy.
Lizardking's "non-TN" is spot on. The 04 Mondavi Oakville is a nice, plush experience... comfort wine? Got mine from Costco in San Juan Capistrano.
Also bought quite a few of the Mondavi Reserves; yet to try but understand that most of the grapes were sourced from To Kalon. At $89 and 95 pts., probably a good value compared to the other high flyers - especially if it represents a further step up from the already awesome Oakville bottling.
Lieff -- fantastic -- only 89 cases of 04 and 600 of the 05. HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT!