Gah!!!
So Jon is definitively the rightful king because he is the first born of the first born and NOT a bastard. But just telling the viewer that with no mention to the characters is cruel. Ugh. I like this show so much.
Arya, damn girl...
A much slower episode after last week's - which was to be expected.
However, some major bombs dropped last night.
Cersei claiming to be pregnant; some pretty wild news. My bet is that she somehow loses the baby, which finally pushes her over the edge of lunacy.
Littlefinger playing some 4D chess against Arya, and winning. Let's see how that all plays out, but I have a feeling next episode will feature some major Arya Vs. Sansa conflict. Question is, where is Bran in all of this?
Jon mother-fuckin' Targaryen!!! How is this all gonna play it?? Will he get along with his auntie?? When is Gilly gonna put two and two together, and how?
The GoT All-Star team heading out past the wall is gonna be amazing. Who's gonna die out there, and what's gonna happen with Gendry? Pretty cool to see him and JonSnow Targaryen having a bro-crush.
Only 2 episodes left though, with a feature-length finale, should be pretty amazing.
However, some major bombs dropped last night.
Cersei claiming to be pregnant; some pretty wild news. My bet is that she somehow loses the baby, which finally pushes her over the edge of lunacy.
Littlefinger playing some 4D chess against Arya, and winning. Let's see how that all plays out, but I have a feeling next episode will feature some major Arya Vs. Sansa conflict. Question is, where is Bran in all of this?
Jon mother-fuckin' Targaryen!!! How is this all gonna play it?? Will he get along with his auntie?? When is Gilly gonna put two and two together, and how?
The GoT All-Star team heading out past the wall is gonna be amazing. Who's gonna die out there, and what's gonna happen with Gendry? Pretty cool to see him and Jon
Only 2 episodes left though, with a feature-length finale, should be pretty amazing.
I thought it was interesting that Danaerys was not more interested in Drogon's interest in Jon Snow.
Still enjoyable.
I thought it was a very bad decision to burn Randall and Dickon Tarly with dragonfire. First, that's not what you do to POWs, and second, using fire to kill them strikes too close to the Mad King. I also wonder what the Dothraki think of offering your enemies the option to "bend the knee." I imagine there might be some grumbling about that.
I liked the fact that Gilly read the scroll about the annulment and that Sam didn't pick up on it. I know the majority of the audience was screaming at him about that, but why would Sam care about the annulment of the marriage of a dead Targaryen prince and subsequent remarriage? He's focusing on the Night King. I imagine though, at some point in the future, he's going to say: "Wait a second, Gilly, what did you tell me about that annulment thing?" and it's all going to click. Until then, we the audience know it, but they don't.
Loved Davos' line about "still rowing" to Gendry. Nice acknowledgement of the Internet's effect on this series.
I don't really buy the "let's go get a wight and bring it back so everyone can see we are telling the truth" strategy. And I certainly don't buy the concept of sending all the leaders (including the King in the North, and the leader of the free folk) to go get one. That's what you have rangers in the Nights Watch for. The idea of an Ocean's Eleven team going out there seemed a bit much. I wondered whether I was witnessing the jumping of a shark.
I thought it was a very bad decision to burn Randall and Dickon Tarly with dragonfire. First, that's not what you do to POWs, and second, using fire to kill them strikes too close to the Mad King. I also wonder what the Dothraki think of offering your enemies the option to "bend the knee." I imagine there might be some grumbling about that.
I liked the fact that Gilly read the scroll about the annulment and that Sam didn't pick up on it. I know the majority of the audience was screaming at him about that, but why would Sam care about the annulment of the marriage of a dead Targaryen prince and subsequent remarriage? He's focusing on the Night King. I imagine though, at some point in the future, he's going to say: "Wait a second, Gilly, what did you tell me about that annulment thing?" and it's all going to click. Until then, we the audience know it, but they don't.
Loved Davos' line about "still rowing" to Gendry. Nice acknowledgement of the Internet's effect on this series.
I don't really buy the "let's go get a wight and bring it back so everyone can see we are telling the truth" strategy. And I certainly don't buy the concept of sending all the leaders (including the King in the North, and the leader of the free folk) to go get one. That's what you have rangers in the Nights Watch for. The idea of an Ocean's Eleven team going out there seemed a bit much. I wondered whether I was witnessing the jumping of a shark.
quote:Originally posted by Rothko:
Still enjoyable.
I thought it was a very bad decision to burn Randall and Dickon Tarly with dragonfire. First, that's not what you do to POWs, and second, using fire to kill them strikes too close to the Mad King. I also wonder what the Dothraki think of offering your enemies the option to "bend the knee." I imagine there might be some grumbling about that.
I liked the fact that Gilly read the scroll about the annulment and that Sam didn't pick up on it. I know the majority of the audience was screaming at him about that, but why would Sam care about the annulment of the marriage of a dead Targaryen prince and subsequent remarriage? He's focusing on the Night King. I imagine though, at some point in the future, he's going to say: "Wait a second, Gilly, what did you tell me about that annulment thing?" and it's all going to click. Until then, we the audience know it, but they don't.
Loved Davos' line about "still rowing" to Gendry. Nice acknowledgement of the Internet's effect on this series.
I don't really buy the "let's go get a wight and bring it back so everyone can see we are telling the truth" strategy. And I certainly don't buy the concept of sending all the leaders (including the King in the North, and the leader of the free folk) to go get one. That's what you have rangers in the Nights Watch for. The idea of an Ocean's Eleven team going out there seemed a bit much. I wondered whether I was witnessing the jumping of a shark.
Drama has replaced strategery but that's ok. There's obviously a really important story element that has to involve Jon Snow and his SEAL team 6 in beyond the wall that should be epic.
I think it's a little odd that we're going to go from Jon Snow to Jon Targaryen. An annulment would be really weird plot hole as Rhaegar had 2 children by Elia Martell and seemingly nobody else knew about it. Essentially divorcing a princess of Dorne to marry someone else seems like a hard secret to keep. Hopefully they explain it.
So succession-wise, that puts Jon Targaryen > Danaerys Targaryen. The Father of Dragons???
quote:Originally posted by Danyull:
I thought it was interesting that Danaerys was not more interested in Drogon's interest in Jon Snow.
I thought that scene was rather odd: Why did she fly up and land in front of him like that? Why not further back? Well, of course, the writers had to find a moment when Jon would interact with the dragons, and Danaerys needed to be nearby to see for herself. I suppose she couldn't just have walked the dragon up on a leash for Jon to pet it.
As a result, I think she suspects that there is some Targaryen blood in his veins. How else could he become so intimate with the dragon, so quickly?
The bigger question running through her mind is: How incestuous would it be to hook up with Jon (which, we all know, is what she has wanted since they locked eyes in that cave)? Would it be as incestuous as...say...a couple of Lannister siblings procreating thrice?
This next episode is going to be a major, major, major doozy. I'm resisting downloading the leaked episode courtesy of HBO Spain and Nordic divisions, but I did read the spoilers. As usual, the tradition of the penultimate episode of a GoT season having a ton of action and plot movement continues......
#Suicide Squad
Ok. So... is Tyrion a Targeryen/Snow?
He also was able to communicate with / keep docile the dragons (in the cave where they were chained). His mother also died giving birth to him. Do non-Targeryen women die when giving birth to Targeryen men? (Dany's still-born fetus looked dragon-like, but she was able to carry it.) Is that why that line has so much incest? Tywin always hated Tyrion. Right before Tyrion killed him, Tywin claimed that Tyrion was not his son. Was he being literal? Could the Mad King have impregnated Tyrion's mother? There are three dragons. Are there only two dragon riders / living Targeryens? And if there are 3 Targeryens alive, and we have met all three, it doesn't seem plausible that it be anyone else. Ep1, S1 Tyrion claims to Jon that dwarfs are treated like bastards by their fathers. What if he was treated like a bastard because he is one?
He also was able to communicate with / keep docile the dragons (in the cave where they were chained). His mother also died giving birth to him. Do non-Targeryen women die when giving birth to Targeryen men? (Dany's still-born fetus looked dragon-like, but she was able to carry it.) Is that why that line has so much incest? Tywin always hated Tyrion. Right before Tyrion killed him, Tywin claimed that Tyrion was not his son. Was he being literal? Could the Mad King have impregnated Tyrion's mother? There are three dragons. Are there only two dragon riders / living Targeryens? And if there are 3 Targeryens alive, and we have met all three, it doesn't seem plausible that it be anyone else. Ep1, S1 Tyrion claims to Jon that dwarfs are treated like bastards by their fathers. What if he was treated like a bastard because he is one?
Winetarelli, there are not going to be there dragons forever. I've said it before, they simply have to kill one or two of them to keep this suspenseful.
I watched the leaked episode. It was great.
I watched the leaked episode. It was great.
Why would you watch the leaked episode?
Now you have to wait almost two weeks.
Now you have to wait almost two weeks.
quote:Originally posted by Rothko:
Why would you watch the leaked episode?
Now you have to wait almost two weeks.
I'll watch it again on Sunday. Hell, I'll probably watch it again before Sunday. Plus, I bet the last one is somehow leaked. Its not like its hurting viewership. Last two episodes have been the most watched ever.
Not reading as I am a few episodes behind because if our trip. But we visited several filming locatio s today in Northern Island
didn't download the hack, waited for the episode to air. Wow, that was some good TV watching…
quote:Originally posted by winetarelli:quote:Originally posted by jburman82:
I'll add something like this had to happen, just like at least one of the dragons has to die. If not there is no real suspense in this battle.
Die? Yes. But when and where? Do his eyes turn blue?
I thought it was a great episode. Lots of suspense: Is Jon going to die? Is Beric going to die? Is Tormund going to die? Oh my, look who just died!
All that to capture a single wight. To paraphrase Saving Private Ryan, that had better be a real special wight - like it had better discover the cure for cancer or something.
So much for the idea of the three heads of the dragon and the three dragon riders.
All that to capture a single wight. To paraphrase Saving Private Ryan, that had better be a real special wight - like it had better discover the cure for cancer or something.
So much for the idea of the three heads of the dragon and the three dragon riders.
I read somewhere that the "three heads of the dragon" was still a possibility in that Jon and Dany were gonna make a baby, but who knows.
I never thought I'd be so sad over the death of a dragon - that scene was beautifully done.
Aside from that, I actually thought it was a pretty poorly written episode. Granted, yes, it was great for moving the storyline forward but the Hound throwing the stones was so predictable and a really lazy way of moving things forward, the dragon's saving the men on the island was too "milked" IMO, they would've been dead by then, Uncle Benjen was lame and too "out of nowhere", the Sansa v. Arya thing feels lazy, etc.
So yeah, good episode in terms of plot revelations and moving things forward - but I felt like a lot of it was lazily written.
With all that being said, looks like CLEGANEBOWL is confirmed!!!
I never thought I'd be so sad over the death of a dragon - that scene was beautifully done.
Aside from that, I actually thought it was a pretty poorly written episode. Granted, yes, it was great for moving the storyline forward but the Hound throwing the stones was so predictable and a really lazy way of moving things forward, the dragon's saving the men on the island was too "milked" IMO, they would've been dead by then, Uncle Benjen was lame and too "out of nowhere", the Sansa v. Arya thing feels lazy, etc.
So yeah, good episode in terms of plot revelations and moving things forward - but I felt like a lot of it was lazily written.
With all that being said, looks like CLEGANEBOWL is confirmed!!!
Jorge, I do get your point about Benjen. That felt very contrived. Im just waiting for someone to get pissed about the wights having giant chains just laying around.
I like the Sansa/Arya thing though. I think it will go in a different direction than most people expect.
I like the Sansa/Arya thing though. I think it will go in a different direction than most people expect.
quote:Originally posted by jburman82:
Jorge, I do get your point about Benjen. That felt very contrived. Im just waiting for someone to get pissed about the wights having giant chains just laying around.
Best answer I've read for where they got the chains: Hardhome Depot