Well that didn't suck......
OH, it felt so good.
Amazing. I had goosebumps and was on the edge of my seat for the last 15 minutes...
Daenerys' gonna die!
Bronn's gonna die!
Drogon's gonna die!
Jaime's gonna die!!
So many incredible moments in that battle. I'm gonna watch it over and over again this week.
Daenerys' gonna die!
Bronn's gonna die!
Drogon's gonna die!
Jaime's gonna die!!
So many incredible moments in that battle. I'm gonna watch it over and over again this week.
Very good season so far. Last night's battle was well done.
Was I the only one that thought that Dany was moving in on Jon Snow to kiss him? Part of me was hoping yes, and part of me was saying "no."
Was I the only one that thought that Dany was moving in on Jon Snow to kiss him? Part of me was hoping yes, and part of me was saying "no."
Cannot access cause we are out of the country. This blows.
quote:Originally posted by Rothko:
Very good season so far. Last night's battle was well done.
Was I the only one that thought that Dany was moving in on Jon Snow to kiss him? Part of me was hoping yes, and part of me was saying "no."
I thought so too. I'm feeling some sexual tension building there...
quote:Originally posted by mjraica:quote:Originally posted by Rothko:
Very good season so far. Last night's battle was well done.
Was I the only one that thought that Dany was moving in on Jon Snow to kiss him? Part of me was hoping yes, and part of me was saying "no."
I thought so too. I'm feeling some sexual tension building there...
They appeared to be holding hands as they exited the cave. All in all, a pleasant first date for both of them.
How many times did Bron escape death?
Mets pitcher, Noah Syndergaard, was one of the soldiers on the Lannister side in the battle with Daenarys' warriors.
I think Jon Snow's signature move is "Get her into a cave."
quote:Originally posted by Rothko:
I think Jon Snow's signature move is "Get her into a cave."
Yes, and show her some etchings...
PH
quote:Originally posted by gigabit:quote:Originally posted by mjraica:quote:Originally posted by Rothko:
Very good season so far. Last night's battle was well done.
Was I the only one that thought that Dany was moving in on Jon Snow to kiss him? Part of me was hoping yes, and part of me was saying "no."
I thought so too. I'm feeling some sexual tension building there...
They appeared to be holding hands as they exited the cave. All in all, a pleasant first date for both of them.
How many times did Bron escape death?
I thought they were holding hands too at first, but it was just the camera angle. In the cave scene, it almost seemed like Dany was ready to bend the knee herself, if you catch my drift.
Ayra's scene was awesome. In a way, I think nobody other than Brienne ever took her seriously.
Stannis would be proud that Davos took up his Grammar-Nazi mantle.
So much sadness and suffering at the last battle scene, I literately cried and froze up the moment...... when Bron dropped his gold and contemplated. No Gold, No Castle, only a fat Lady Lolis.
The Sansa/Arya reunion was flat...poor writing. I can't think GRRM signed off on that scene.
Even thought the battle had its moment, there was implausibility that made for some cheesy moments, such as Bronn handling the crossbow so effortlessly, and getting off, like, 5 shots. And cinematographically speaking, I would have like lento have seen a better wide angle shot of the battle.
And for Christ sakes, you have an effing dragon....come in from the flank and cook the whole line in one pass...minimize your exposure. The enemy line will break and let your cavalry do the rest. I was thinking if Jaime possibly survives this, I'm going to start writing screenplays.
Other than that it was pretty good
Even thought the battle had its moment, there was implausibility that made for some cheesy moments, such as Bronn handling the crossbow so effortlessly, and getting off, like, 5 shots. And cinematographically speaking, I would have like lento have seen a better wide angle shot of the battle.
And for Christ sakes, you have an effing dragon....come in from the flank and cook the whole line in one pass...minimize your exposure. The enemy line will break and let your cavalry do the rest. I was thinking if Jaime possibly survives this, I'm going to start writing screenplays.
Other than that it was pretty good
He only got two shots off. A practice shot (which almost hit), and the second shot which brought down the dragon. Excellent marksmanship for Bronn.
Still, since they had the scorpion wagon, where was the dedicated AA crew for that weapon? Why weren't they firing it?
Also, since they had the AA wagon, that meant that they anticipated seeing a dragon. Which means you should have anticipated the napalm attack on your bunched-up troops.
The fact is, without similar air support or very effective anti-aircraft (one scorpion is not sufficient AA), the Lannister army was toast (pun intended) from the get-go.
Still, since they had the scorpion wagon, where was the dedicated AA crew for that weapon? Why weren't they firing it?
Also, since they had the AA wagon, that meant that they anticipated seeing a dragon. Which means you should have anticipated the napalm attack on your bunched-up troops.
The fact is, without similar air support or very effective anti-aircraft (one scorpion is not sufficient AA), the Lannister army was toast (pun intended) from the get-go.
Ok so finally caught up this season.
Wtf, why does every army/navy get caught completely off guard?
Only Euron's half of the Iron Fleet knows how to scout?
The Lannister/Tarly army marchs from the Crownlands all the way to Highgarden and the Tyrells can't put up a decent defense? The Reach has the largest standing army in Westeros and the Tarlys are not the most powerful house. House Hightower is probably the most powerful non-great house. And the rationale for why they lost a siege in few days is "we're not good at fighting"?
Seasoned battle commanders like Jaime Lannister and Randyll Tarly are caught completely off guard by a Dothraki horde? Please.
Also, it seemed pretty unlikely that Jaime Lannister of all people, a man with no honor left in the eyes of the people, was able to convince someone like Randyll Tarly to betray a house he's been loyal to for his entire life to fight for someone like Cersei. Especially given that there was a Targaryen army off the coast, a King in the North, a defiant Dorne, and his sworn Lord in open rebellion. Self-preservation seemed illogical. And Tarly was not Roose Bolton or Walder Frey.
Despite the plot holes, I'm loving it.
Wtf, why does every army/navy get caught completely off guard?
Only Euron's half of the Iron Fleet knows how to scout?
The Lannister/Tarly army marchs from the Crownlands all the way to Highgarden and the Tyrells can't put up a decent defense? The Reach has the largest standing army in Westeros and the Tarlys are not the most powerful house. House Hightower is probably the most powerful non-great house. And the rationale for why they lost a siege in few days is "we're not good at fighting"?
Seasoned battle commanders like Jaime Lannister and Randyll Tarly are caught completely off guard by a Dothraki horde? Please.
Also, it seemed pretty unlikely that Jaime Lannister of all people, a man with no honor left in the eyes of the people, was able to convince someone like Randyll Tarly to betray a house he's been loyal to for his entire life to fight for someone like Cersei. Especially given that there was a Targaryen army off the coast, a King in the North, a defiant Dorne, and his sworn Lord in open rebellion. Self-preservation seemed illogical. And Tarly was not Roose Bolton or Walder Frey.
Despite the plot holes, I'm loving it.
Danyull,
Agree with you completely on the lack of scouts. Any decent army would have outriders, scouts and pickets at least 10-20 miles out. The Lannisters should never have been caught like that in the field. As King Robert once said, only a fool meets the Dothraki in the open field.
It's even harder for a fleet to fall upon another by surprise.
And I agree about House Tarly. They were bannermen to House Tyrell. I don't recall anything about Cersei promising to make them the replacement House for Highgarden, but maybe that happened.
Still, if everything was logical and militarily sound, it would be a much longer, more boring show.
Agree with you completely on the lack of scouts. Any decent army would have outriders, scouts and pickets at least 10-20 miles out. The Lannisters should never have been caught like that in the field. As King Robert once said, only a fool meets the Dothraki in the open field.
It's even harder for a fleet to fall upon another by surprise.
And I agree about House Tarly. They were bannermen to House Tyrell. I don't recall anything about Cersei promising to make them the replacement House for Highgarden, but maybe that happened.
Still, if everything was logical and militarily sound, it would be a much longer, more boring show.
Dudes, there are dragons, ice zombies and people being brought back to life. Can we chill on the lack of military realism?
quote:Originally posted by jburman82:
Dudes, there are dragons, ice zombies and people being brought back to life. Can we chill on the lack of military realism?
Yes, but what I thought was very good about Martin's books was that while magic existed in his world, it was very rare. It's not like walking around in Hogwarts where even the paintings on the wall moved. For most people in Westeros, magic didn't even exist. No one in Westeros had seen a dragon (which technically isn't magical) in 300 years, or ice zombies in thousands of years. Asking a Westerosi to believe in an ice zombie is like asking you or me to believe in an animated mummy.
So, you should expect Westerosi armies to be very conventional in their tactics, for the most part. Of course, now that they've seen that dragons are real, they are going to have to adjust.
I can incorporate the fantasy aspects into the world easily.
But it just doesn't fit with how much political strategy is going around for everyone to be military eff-ups. It just seems like the show writers are lazy.
Euron is able to ambush two separate fleets on opposite sides of a continent? Westeros is at LEAST the size of California, it would take more than a few days to sail around Dorne, back up the Reach and up to the Westerlands at Casterly Rock. Come on.
Also, Dragonstone is pretty close to Kings Landing. How did they have no idea about Eurons gigantic fleet anchored off Kings Landing.
But it just doesn't fit with how much political strategy is going around for everyone to be military eff-ups. It just seems like the show writers are lazy.
Euron is able to ambush two separate fleets on opposite sides of a continent? Westeros is at LEAST the size of California, it would take more than a few days to sail around Dorne, back up the Reach and up to the Westerlands at Casterly Rock. Come on.
Also, Dragonstone is pretty close to Kings Landing. How did they have no idea about Eurons gigantic fleet anchored off Kings Landing.
Yes,
Especially this season, people know things or don't when it is convenient to the plot; and take time getting places or move at seemingly warp speed, again, when it is what works for the plot. It is annoying.
Also, still love the f'n show!
Especially this season, people know things or don't when it is convenient to the plot; and take time getting places or move at seemingly warp speed, again, when it is what works for the plot. It is annoying.
Also, still love the f'n show!
I get all those points but so much has to happen in just 13 episodes this stuff was bound to happen. If we want to bitch why just 13 instead of 20 I'm in.