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Originally posted by jburman82:
I understand that point Rothko but if all three dragons just fly around roasting Lannisters and Greyjoys there is no drama in that battle. Martin always ups the drama and tests for his characters. I think one of the dragons die. I could be wrong but I'm sticking to it.


The real point is that the 3-headed dragon is needed because dragons will be needed to fight the Others (white Walkers/Night's King in the show) and will be flown by 3 characters - it is up for debate who those 3 are - largely believed to be Dany, Jon and the third is open to debate - many believe Tyrion - some believe Bran either directly or through Three-Eyed Raven powers - It is quite possible a dragon will die in the show (and possibly the books) but that runs up against the 3 Heads of the Dragon theories.

Time will tell
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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:
JC, but why a "3-headed dragon"?

I understand they'll need dragons, and will obviously start off with 3 of them, but just because one dies in battle doesn't mean there weren't three to begin with.... Confused



Lots of options - google it. For history read The World of Ice and Fire.

Historically - Aegon the Conqueror and his 2 sisters had 3 dragons with which they conquered Westeros. When Dany is in the House of the Undying - there are multiple references to the dragon having 3 heads.

Combining these and there are many other hints - came the widely held theory that the 3 dragons will have 3 riders . . .

Whether it will happen or not remains to be seen.
Where I'm losing you guys is that having one dragon killed doesn't ruin the 3-dragon theory.

3 Dragons fly into Westeros, kicking ass, burning up some delicious gyro meat, and destroying the Lannister and Greyjoy army. In the process, one dies, but the Lannister's and Greyjoy's are already dead / dying - so the 3 dragons prophecy still comes true... just that one dies in the end.

Anyway, yeah, we'll wait and see.

Good stuff!
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Originally posted by Jorgerunfast:
Where I'm losing you guys is that having one dragon killed doesn't ruin the 3-dragon theory.

3 Dragons fly into Westeros, kicking ass, burning up some delicious gyro meat, and destroying the Lannister and Greyjoy army. In the process, one dies, but the Lannister's and Greyjoy's are already dead / dying - so the 3 dragons prophecy still comes true... just that one dies in the end.

Anyway, yeah, we'll wait and see.

Good stuff!


It is not a 3 dragon theory - it is that there are 3 people flying the 3 dragons. Dragon power does not mean the dragons fly around doing what they want. Dragons need riders. There are 3 meaning 3 people are needed. We are not there yet. If one is killed, that eliminates this theory/prophecy - which may well happen.

Lannister armies are not central to the real plot - this is a sideshow. Ice and Fire- White Walkers - the Others - that is where the big fight will be and what dragon fire might be useful for. Hell in the books, the Lannisters are barely even hanging on my a threat - Cersei is much much stupider, more incompetent and much much crazier - there is a whole other force (not existing in the show) that will likely have control of Kings Landing by the time the story is at this point
I don't think that Martin ever intended to have quite so many twists and turns as people expect in the TV show (or on the internet). It's like viewers will be upset if there aren't some more major surprises or sudden deaths, or beloved characters dying.

I think his original twist ending was the R+L=J reveal. I can remember reading the books for the first time, thinking it was a great story about Robb Stark getting revenge for Ned's death, and then being blown away by the Red Wedding and coming to realize that the story wasn't about Robb Stark at all, but about Jon Snow and the Others.
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Originally posted by Rothko:
I don't think that Martin ever intended to have quite so many twists and turns as people expect in the TV show (or on the internet). It's like viewers will be upset if there aren't some more major surprises or sudden deaths, or beloved characters dying.

I think his original twist ending was the R+L=J reveal. I can remember reading the books for the first time, thinking it was a great story about Robb Stark getting revenge for Ned's death, and then being blown away by the Red Wedding and coming to realize that the story wasn't about Robb Stark at all, but about Jon Snow and the Others.


If you read the books more than once and the World of Ice and Fire - I think you would be surprised at how many twists and history were planned - The Prologue of the first book starts with the Others - which was a major sign that they were of critical importance. While I can't say I had any idea where the story was going either, I knew Jon was critically important right away

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