I do love that the show does not spoon feed these issues so things are open to interpretation and debate.
Even with gripes and quibbles, this episode was fantastic. Overall, the season has been excellent although Episodes 6-8 were a weaker segment of the season
quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:although Episodes 6-8 were a weaker segment of the season
And I don't even accept that!
quote:Originally posted by The Old Man:quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:although Episodes 6-8 were a weaker segment of the season
And I don't even accept that!
The Arya stroll through Braavos and Waif attack was lame - surely we can agree on that?
quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:quote:Originally posted by The Old Man:quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:although Episodes 6-8 were a weaker segment of the season
And I don't even accept that!
The Arya stroll through Braavos and Waif attack was lame - surely we can agree on that?
Yep, Waif as Terminator.
quote:Originally posted by The Old Man:quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:quote:Originally posted by The Old Man:quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:although Episodes 6-8 were a weaker segment of the season
And I don't even accept that!
The Arya stroll through Braavos and Waif attack was lame - surely we can agree on that?
Yep, Waif as Terminator.
Yeah lame. She doesn't even really begin Faceless Man training before she's "complete". LAME.
I think we're porting our 21st century culture a bit to what is supposedly a few hundred years back. Sansa prob didn't speak up in the war council because women weren't supposed to. She hasn't earned the respect of Tormund and Davos and Jon's relationship with her has been testy. There was also no knowledge of how and when the Knights of the Vale would help.
Also if she had told them that the man she requested help from was Littlefinger, one of the men that betrayed Ned Stark, there would probably have been quite the disagreement.
I think she's coming into her own and is far more likable in the show than in the books.
Cersi playing chess while everybody else playing checkers.
Also, I love me some lady Mormont.
Also, I love me some lady Mormont.
I'm freaking out guys.
quote:Originally posted by jburman82:
Cersi playing chess while everybody else playing checkers.
Until Jaime kills her next season
quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:quote:Originally posted by jburman82:
Cersi playing chess while everybody else playing checkers.
Until Jaime kills her next season
You really think that will happen?quote:Originally posted by jburman82:quote:Originally posted by Jcocktosten:quote:Originally posted by jburman82:
Cersi playing chess while everybody else playing checkers.
Until Jaime kills her next season
65% likely I would say.
quote:Originally posted by jburman82:
...I love me some lady Mormont.
+1
PH
I guess we now know Jon Snow's origin...
quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
I guess we now know Jon Snow's origin...
who's the father though?
was it rhaegar or robert
or a little ambigious still?
With the way the story lines are developing, I'm gonna say Rhaegar's the father, and Danarys and Jon will form some sort of alliance/marriage. What I'm having trouble seeing at this point is any good fights left. Everyone is going to ally themselves against the Lannisters. They're gonna be slaughtered. What major houses are even left on their side? Besides the Frey's?
quote:Originally posted by mjraica:
With the way the story lines are developing, I'm gonna say Rhaegar's the father, and Danarys and Jon will form some sort of alliance/marriage. What I'm having trouble seeing at this point is any good fights left. Everyone is going to ally themselves against the Lannisters. They're gonna be slaughtered. What major houses are even left on their side? Besides the Frey's?
The white walkers are the overarching battle still.
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
I guess we now know Jon Snow's origin...
who's the father though?
was it rhaegar or robert
or a little ambigious still?
Yeah I think the father is ambiguous, but I took it that Jon is the probable heir to the Iron Throne.
quote:Originally posted by PD2K:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
I guess we now know Jon Snow's origin...
who's the father though?
was it rhaegar or robert
or a little ambigious still?
Yeah I think the father is ambiguous, but I took it that Jon is the probable heir to the Iron Throne.
It shouldn't be ambiguous anymore.
The baby is Jon Snow.
Jon Snow is obviously no longer Ned's bastard.
There were two Kingsguard guarding Lyanna Stark who can only be commanded by the royal family. Nobody but Rhaegar in the royal family has any connection to Lyanna Stark. Rhaegar + Lyanna = Jon Snow.
The show is also called Song of Ice and Fire. Jon Snow = Ice, Daenarys Targaryen = Fire. Showdown time.
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
I guess we now know Jon Snow's origin...
who's the father though?
was it rhaegar or robert
or a little ambigious still?
Robert is not the father because she was kidnapped before they were married. Also because Robert couldn't command the Kingsguard. If it was Robert's child, the Kingsguard would probably have orders to kill the baby upon delivery and wouldn't be waiting around outside.
quote:Originally posted by Danyull:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
I guess we now know Jon Snow's origin...
who's the father though?
was it rhaegar or robert
or a little ambigious still?
Yeah I think the father is ambiguous, but I took it that Jon is the probable heir to the Iron Throne.
It shouldn't be ambiguous anymore.
The baby is Jon Snow.
Jon Snow is obviously no longer Ned's bastard.
There were two Kingsguard guarding Lyanna Stark who can only be commanded by the royal family. Nobody but Rhaegar in the royal family has any connection to Lyanna Stark. Rhaegar + Lyanna = Jon Snow.
The show is also called Song of Ice and Fire. Jon Snow = Ice, Daenarys Targaryen = Fire. Showdown time.
Robert could be the father as you dont know the timeline before lyanna was kidnapped by rhaegar.
quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by Danyull:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:quote:Originally posted by g-man:quote:Originally posted by PD2K:
I guess we now know Jon Snow's origin...
who's the father though?
was it rhaegar or robert
or a little ambigious still?
Yeah I think the father is ambiguous, but I took it that Jon is the probable heir to the Iron Throne.
It shouldn't be ambiguous anymore.
The baby is Jon Snow.
Jon Snow is obviously no longer Ned's bastard.
There were two Kingsguard guarding Lyanna Stark who can only be commanded by the royal family. Nobody but Rhaegar in the royal family has any connection to Lyanna Stark. Rhaegar + Lyanna = Jon Snow.
The show is also called Song of Ice and Fire. Jon Snow = Ice, Daenarys Targaryen = Fire. Showdown time.
Robert could be the father as you dont know the timeline before lyanna was kidnapped by rhaegar.
It doesn't make any sense for Robert to be the father.