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Game of Thrones [The TV Show Only; Please No Spoilers Based Upon the Books]

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A azwineryanMember
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.


Lol. Some time during the show last night, my wife turned to me and said, "Is that the only position they used back then?"

But yes, this show looks very promising indeed. We haven't watched last night's third episode of 'The Borgias' yet, but I can already tell that I'll enjoy Game of Thrones more. Though I guess I already expected that going in...HBO always seems to deliver for me more than Showtime. Don't get me wrong, Dexter and Californication are two of my favorites shows on TV, but HBO seems to deliver a more epic feel, and higher production value when it comes to these kinds of shows - not to say Showtime didn't deliver with 'The Tudors' though, which was stellar.
W wine+artMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.

Agreed, it was done to show the male domination of the society, but it may have been overkill. Meanwhile, those girls are stunning.


Former 15, just what exactly am I missing here? Confused Wink
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.

Agreed, it was done to show the male domination of the society, but it may have been overkill. Meanwhile, those girls are stunning.


Former 15, just what exactly am I missing here? Confused Wink

Are you saying you don't find the girls attractive, or are you saying you don't know what we are talking about? This is a NSFW shot of one of the primary stars. We'll see how the plot goes, but it seems interesting.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.

I didn't read the books but, as I said, it looks really good. Almost a cross between The Sopranos and Lord of the Rings. I agree about Dinklage.
S spoMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.


I think I prefer you when you are complaining or criticizing something. This is too out of character for you and outside of my comfort zone.
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by spo:
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.


I think I prefer you when you are complaining or criticizing something. This is too out of character for you and outside of my comfort zone.

Anybody who doesn't like this show is an asshole. Better?
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.

I didn't read the books but, as I said, it looks really good. Almost a cross between The Sopranos and Lord of the Rings. I agree about Dinklage.

Funny to mention The Sopranos. Did you note that the first show was directed by The Sopranos goto guy Timothy Van Patten? He of the mega-hotness The Wire.
mneeley490mneeley490Member
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.


Lol. Some time during the show last night, my wife turned to me and said, "Is that the only position they used back then?"

The missionaries hadn't come along yet to spoil things...
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald:
Last night was abit slow and seemed to drag. Maybe they are sitting us up for something, but the entire deal with the kid sword fight, other tha the treachory of the group, just didn't seem to fit!

Saw a short interview with the guy that plays the nomad leader with the hot white hair babe. There is a reason he has a non speaking role to date! Roll Eyes

The sword fight will have meaning for the Prince's relationship with Sansa. I say no more.
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by Chilicat:
While I understand they are trying to bring a sprawling epic to the small screen I do think if you've not read the books you are missing quite a bit of subplot and character insight.

I always try to approach the medium on its own terms. I don't care about the book. Just look at this show (or movie or work of art or whatever.) Is it compelling, well produced well acted? With GoT the answer is a resounding YES.

The only way to truly translate a book to the screen is put all the text on the screen and perhaps have a narrator read all the words.

I've said before, and I'll say again, to say that a movie is not as good as the book is a meaningless statement.
C chilicatMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
I've said before, and I'll say again, to say that a movie is not as good as the book is a meaningless statement.


You'll notice I refrained from judging any merit, i.e. it's as good/not good as the book, and merely made an observation. Based on the comments I'm reading here, I stand by that observation: much insight is lost if you haven't read the book(s). For instance, as I noted above, the Dothraki are not having sex "doggy style," they are having sex in a method that imitates the horses that are such a part of their culture. It's a pretty keen insight you're missing not knowing that and leads to the comments/conclusions I've read here.

Also, not reading the book(s) and watching the movie is neither good nor bad, it just leaves you in a state of imperfect information and insight that the author conveyed in the book. I really wasn't trying to get into any discursive analysis of various mediums and modes of expression...just kind of making a simple observation.
M mareffMember
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Originally posted by TBird:
i'm watching game of thrones/the borgais/camelot, and yes, i get confused here and there too...

thank GOD for "the killing"... Razz

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Originally posted by kingofcool:
Anyone notice the character that is in both the Borgias and GOT? Confused me for a second.


I am still confused about the character names in GOT, need a cheat sheet.
G g-manMember
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Originally posted by mareff:
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Originally posted by TBird:
i'm watching game of thrones/the borgais/camelot, and yes, i get confused here and there too...

thank GOD for "the killing"... Razz

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Originally posted by kingofcool:
Anyone notice the character that is in both the Borgias and GOT? Confused me for a second.


I am still confused about the character names in GOT, need a cheat sheet.


don't worry, they all die sooner or later.

oops.
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
I'm surprised no one's said anything about this show since its early episodes. It has quickly become one of my favorite shows on TV right now. The last 2 episodes have been killer.

My favorite scripted show airing new episodes on TV right now...

I'm assuming you're thinking of sports or talk shows as UNscripted, not reality shows which off course have unsung, though credited, writers.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
I'm surprised no one's said anything about this show since its early episodes. It has quickly become one of my favorite shows on TV right now. The last 2 episodes have been killer.

My favorite scripted show airing new episodes on TV right now...

I'm assuming you're thinking of sports or talk shows as UNscripted, not reality shows which off course have unsung, though credited, writers.

You are correct. I was thinking of a way of defining it as a category that does not include shows like, specifically, The Daily Show and The Colbert Report -- not that I don't like it more than those shows, nor less, I just feel they are so different that it is unfair to compare them. Of course most of those shows are also scripted.

What I should have said is that it is my favorite plot-based show on TV airing new episodes right now.
A azwineryanMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
How did no one post on this thread after last week's episode? This week's is entitled The Pointy End. So excited. I haven't read the books so I can only imagine what is coming...


The same thing instantly came to my mind as soon as I noticed this thread bumped up..."how has no one posted about last week's episode yet?"

This series has continued to get stronger each episode of the season thus far, and last week's episode took it to a different level. I'm excited to see what happens tonight.

Clearly the best show on TV right now, and one of the best overall shows on TV in general for that matter.
M mrcabernetMember
A great episode and also shows how they've got so much talent that even a semi-major character like Sansa tears it up at the end.

Unfortunately there will really be nowhere for this to go. With the fifth book coming out after an almost 6 year wait, and with two more books due to end the series, I don't think you'll ever see a resolution on HBO.
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by mareff:
Having never read these books, is the story on HBO coming close to the actual plots in the books?

The show is an excellent adaptation of the first book A Game of Thrones. Many scenes in the book have been cut to keep it to 10 episodes, but if they didn't you'd need at least double that. Almost every major event and scene from the book is represented however.

The look and attention to detail must thrill all Martin fans except the diehards. And Martin has said it's faithful to the book. Also note he wrote last night's excellent episode. But the problem will be that even though each book ends with a real punch (and begins with one for that matter) there is no conclusion yet to the series. And even if there was could HBO continue with its excellent production values for seven seasons? Though HBO has, as noted, already announced the production of the second book I can't see where they can make a commitment to finish the series. It would need Roots-like ratings.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
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Originally posted by mareff:
Having never read these books, is the story on HBO coming close to the actual plots in the books?

The show is an excellent adaptation of the first book A Game of Thrones. Many scenes in the book have been cut to keep it to 10 episodes, but if they didn't you'd need at least double that. Almost every major event and scene from the book is represented however.

The look and attention to detail must thrill all Martin fans except the diehards. And Martin has said it's faithful to the book. Also note he wrote last night's excellent episode. But the problem will be that even though each book ends with a real punch (and begins with one for that matter) there is no conclusion yet to the series. And even if there was could HBO continue with its excellent production values for seven seasons? Though HBO has, as noted, already announced the production of the second book I can't see where they can make a commitment to finish the series. It would need Roots-like ratings.

I noted, myself, that Martin wrote the last episode, and I thought it was fantastic.

As to ratings... the ratings paradigm is somewhat different for pay cable than for regular cable and networks. The only number HBO is interested in is the number of people who will continue to subscribe partially or fully due to the fact that this is on the air. Consequently, their calculus is based upon uniqueness and quality, rather than broadness -- a very different operating scheme than networks, which is why virtually all the best shows are on pay cable (mostly HBO).
sd-wineauxsd-wineauxMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
The only number HBO is interested in is the number of people who will continue to subscribe partially or fully due to the fact that this is on the air.

And I'm seriously considering signing up, largely because of this series. But I remain less excited about the following books because (to me) they seemed to wander aimlessly with no convergence toward a conclusion. Still, the first book is that good!
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
The only number HBO is interested in is the number of people who will continue to subscribe partially or fully due to the fact that this is on the air.

And I'm seriously considering signing up, largely because of this series. But I remain less excited about the following books because (to me) they seemed to wander aimlessly with
no convergence toward a conclusion. Still, the first book is that good!

I don't know, I'm 3/4 through Clash of Kings and really enjoying it. The first three books all get great reviews and the fourth is rated good, but not great. 3,000+ pages and he has a pretty good batting average.
sd-wineauxsd-wineauxMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
I don't know, I'm 3/4 through Clash of Kings and really enjoying it. The first three books all get great reviews and the fourth is rated good, but not great. 3,000+ pages and he has a pretty good batting average.

Well, I don't want to clog up this thread any further with this side topic. But's let's just agree that different people can reach different conclusions and still be right according to their preferences.
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by SD-Wineaux:
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
I don't know, I'm 3/4 through Clash of Kings and really enjoying it. The first three books all get great reviews and the fourth is rated good, but not great. 3,000+ pages and he has a pretty good batting average.

Well, I don't want to clog up this thread any further with this side topic. But's let's just agree that different people can reach different conclusions and still be right according to their preferences.

Never, at least in this thread, suggested otherwise. It is nice there's almost universal agreement on the TV show. I agree with grossie's comment on both The Wire and The Sopranos. Due to The Sopranos' inconsistency I might put Battlestar Galactica above it. Helps to be a sci-fi fan, but not really required with this particular show.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by Adam10:
Saw the pilot last night...bit confusing, loads of different characters, and I'm not sure who's who when they're talking about each other...but the ending was rather...intense.

Adam10, it sucks you in. By the third or fourth episode you begin to figure out who is who. You are supposed to be confused at the beginning.
A adam10Member
Yeah...saw the second one last night...I'm just a bit confused as to what happened to the original King, and how Robert became King if the male twin killed his predecessor...

...that blonde bird is WAY fitter with brown hair if you google her. The minty who taught her how to shag was far more tasty, too.

Wonder what's going to happen with the Dragon eggs...and I think the performances from the child actors is strong in this series.

Oh and why doesn't Snow have his Dad's last name just cos he's a bastard?
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by Adam10:
Yeah...saw the second one last night...I'm just a bit confused as to what happened to the original King, and how Robert became King if the male twin killed his predecessor...

...that blonde bird is WAY fitter with brown hair if you google her. The minty who taught her how to shag was far more tasty, too.

Wonder what's going to happen with the Dragon eggs...and I think the performances from the child actors is strong in this series.

Oh and why doesn't Snow have his Dad's last name just cos he's a bastard?

Big Grin These are all questions that get answered as the series goes along!

And I'll take Emilia Clarke with any color hair, thank you. I agree the girl who taught her is amazing, too.
M mrcabernetMember
Well, it is great. But the problem is coming. Next week ends the first season which will match the end of the first book. The fifth of seven planned books is coming out next month. It took over five years for Martin to finish it. So even if he finished the final volume will HBO find it's worth the money to try and produce seven seasons of the show? Will the books be finished by the time they are ready to shoot the final series? Can they keep the cast together (minus of course the surprise deaths)? This has been a great effort, but can it be sustained to give us an ending?
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A azwineryanMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:

I haven't read the books... and I don't want to. This is just too good. Last night's episode was amazing.


Agreed. This show has been brilliant since the beginning, but the last 3 episodes or so have taken it to a new level.

I'm at this point rather glad I haven't read the books because the shock value is still there for me...I was absolutely stunned at the death of Lord Stark going through.
M mrcabernetMember
I'm not telling anyone to read the books--though I think they're great. And I never compare books and movies. The problem is there is no ending, and I don't believe they will create one for the series. I don't think Martin would agree to that.

It's kind of as if they made the Lord Of The Rings trilogy, but the third book wasn't written yet, and there was no definite date for when it was going to come out.

On a side note winetarelli, if it's still possible to edit the thread title it should say, Game of Thrones with spoilers. We do this on another forum I'm in.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
On a side note winetarelli, if it's still possible to edit the thread title it should say, Game of Thrones with spoilers. We do this on another forum I'm in.


Smile I was a little surprised by Ryan's spoiler there, myself! Razz Wink

Done. But may I suggest that discussion on this thread be kept to the show only in terms of spoilers. ie. It is fine to discuss a surprise twist that happened on the show, but not one that happens in the books after the most recent episode of the show has aired.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
Sean Bean: Badass.

So apparently he is 52, was outside of a bar smoking with his 22 year old girlfriend who happens to be a Playboy playmate. Some guy past and made a comment to her about seeing her breasts and Sean told him where to shove it. Later, the guy came back to the bar, started an unprovoked physical altercation which Sean won but which wound up seeing Sean stabbed with glass (a bottle, I think). He accepted first aide from the bar tender but refused to go to the hospital and then ordered another drink and continued the evening out with his girlfriend.
G g-manMember
<slight overall plot spoiler Very high level>
the book is just about the same

the show has so far been very true to the book.

heck even the cut scenes over to the other storylines feels like it matches the book exactly.

The dialog too.

The first book is over 1000 pages, so you can imagine it takes time to build up a whole story.

But where's the overview to follow along.

There's 1 overall story line, 3 main story lines- with 2 that spawn off it, and 2 side stories that have been revealed in the show so far.

The overall is that everyone is fighting for the iron throne.

3 major story lines where everything spawns off are:
Starks involvement
Lannisters involvement
Targaryen involvement
with 2 side plots that spawn off it
-Littlefinger
-Baratheon family

There's also 3 side stories that sneak in there but really ins't part of hte major story line but will form significant side stories.
Jon snow and the night watch
and another 2 other fun little plots that I won't spoil as the show hasn't gotten there yet.
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by jburman82:
I watched the first three episodes last night. I enjoyed it but found it a bit confusing since I havent read any of the books. Is more of the back story told along the way or should I read the books and then watch the rest of the show?

Just watch the show. You don't need to read the book, though excellent as it is.
J jburman82Member
Im all caught up and really enjoying the series. I was very caught off guard by the beheading. Are they setting up the imp as an anti-hero?

Referencing a comment above about the books. Is there really no ending? I hate it when a show doesnt wrap stuff up . . . cough . . . Sopranos . . . cough. If there is no ending is the guy writing another book or is he just leaving it hanging?
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by jburman82:
Im all caught up and really enjoying the series. I was very caught off guard by the beheading. Are they setting up the imp as an anti-hero?

Referencing a comment above about the books. Is there really no ending? I hate it when a show doesnt wrap stuff up . . . cough . . . Sopranos . . . cough. If there is no ending is the guy writing another book or is he just leaving it hanging?

The Sopranos had an ending--it was just terrible. The difference here, as I've said in earlier posts, is that there currently is no ending. It's a planned seven book series with the fifth one coming out next month. Each book ends with a dramatic event, but it is not a wrap up. So the final episode on Sunday will end with dramatic events, but no conclusion. The same thing will happen when the second series comes out next year. And it will continue for as many books as they are willing to finance to adapt to the series. Going by Martin's current track record for releasing the books we may be looking to 2020 before the books are finished let alone the TV series.
J jburman82Member
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
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Originally posted by jburman82:
Im all caught up and really enjoying the series. I was very caught off guard by the beheading. Are they setting up the imp as an anti-hero?

Referencing a comment above about the books. Is there really no ending? I hate it when a show doesnt wrap stuff up . . . cough . . . Sopranos . . . cough. If there is no ending is the guy writing another book or is he just leaving it hanging?

The Sopranos had an ending--it was just terrible. The difference here, as I've said in earlier posts, is that there currently is no ending. It's a planned seven book series with the fifth one coming out next month. Each book ends with a dramatic event, but it is not a wrap up. So the final episode on Sunday will end with dramatic events, but no conclusion. The same thing will happen when the second series comes out next year. And it will continue for as many books as they are willing to finance to adapt to the series. Going by Martin's current track record for releasing the books we may be looking to 2020 before the books are finished let alone the TV series.


Im understanding a little bit better now. So each season is one book, with only 4 out and HBO's standard slow production time this will run out of steam before its finished so I should just go ahead and start reading the books which really wont be that much faster. Wink
G g-manMember
I am simply making a conjecture stating that the author would be pulling an out of nowhere ending to if the prophecy was fulfilled since the last three books have not stated the ending.

Actually even if you followed the book, we still don't know what would truly happen, but I for one would be really disappointed.
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doubleddoubledMember
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Originally posted by Gundam:
Anyone remember if there was ever a scene in which the king DID NOT drank... or rather gulped wine ?
Drinking water, I would imagine, is less common.

I just got caught up with this series, and so far so good. It was a bit of adjustment with the references -- couldn't tell if the characters were referring to their kingdoms, enemies, or their friends.
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by g-man:
how so? your post is more of a spoiler then mine, how about editing it =)

I am simply making a conjecture stating that the author would be pulling an out of nowhere ending to if the prophecy was fulfilled since the last three books have not stated the ending.

Actually even if you followed the book, we still don't know what would truly happen, but I for one would be really disappointed.

At least I have a warning.

When I first read it in the book my first thought was perhaps we would follow the adventures that lead the Stallion to rule Westeros. I did not see his birth as being an end to the story. We will have to see.
G g-manMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:

When I first read it in the book my first thought was perhaps we would follow the adventures that lead the Stallion to rule Westeros. I did not see his birth as being an end to the story. We will have to see.


It just does't fit right to introduce the trials and tribulations that a 16 yr old girl goes through and is shown as a main character to have her son side step her story line wouldn't you agree?

that's why i think her baby is a minor character.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by g-man:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Please note the new title of this thread. Smile


so is the thread only for reviews or for discussion on possible future storylines?

since the book has't ended, no one really knows =)

It just seemed like there were people who were discussing specific plot lines that won't be on TV for years. I just think a lot of the people contributing to this thread haven't read the books and might not want to read definitively of a plot point that won't be on television for a year or more...
G g-manMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by g-man:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
Please note the new title of this thread. Smile


so is the thread only for reviews or for discussion on possible future storylines?

since the book has't ended, no one really knows =)

It just seemed like there were people who were discussing specific plot lines that won't be on TV for years. I just think a lot of the people contributing to this thread haven't read the books and might not want to read definitively of a plot point that won't be on television for a year or more...


i did not at all,

all of my posts are literally what the show has been up to at that point.

I've made conjectures on points that because teh book hasn't ended, I myself don't know where it might go.

I certainly brought up no other future character names either.

Now if people go around replying with confirmation of my posts, I can't be held accountable for that =)
M mrcabernetMember
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
I'll be the first to say, how friggin long do we have to wait for the next season?! Knowing HBO, I'm sure it will be around a year, hopefully no longer. As someone who hasn't read the books, the finale left so much out there without any hint of resolution. As expected, the ending was amazing...the dragon lives!

My wife and I knew what was coming, and had faith that they could pull it off--and they did brillantly. The scene is now set for the second book--what's beyond the wall, what wars are brewing, what will Dany do with her new friends?

But still can HBO pull of 7 seasons when the 6th and 7th book aren't even out? Can you keep your excellent cast together, what about the child actors? With all those years of Harry Potter movies they were bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars in profit and cross-promotions. Will HBO be able to finish A Song of Fire and Ice, and will I live long enough to see it?
G g-manMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
I'll be the first to say, how friggin long do we have to wait for the next season?! Knowing HBO, I'm sure it will be around a year, hopefully no longer. As someone who hasn't read the books, the finale left so much out there without any hint of resolution. As expected, the ending was amazing...the dragon lives!

My wife and I knew what was coming, and had faith that they could pull it off--and they did brillantly. The scene is now set for the second book--what's beyond the wall, what wars are brewing, what will Dany do with her new friends?

But still can HBO pull of 7 seasons when the 6th and 7th book aren't even out? Can you keep your excellent cast together, what about the child actors? With all those years of Harry Potter movies they were bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars in profit and cross-promotions. Will HBO be able to finish A Song of Fire and Ice, and will I live long enough to see it?


i agree, the child actors were brilliant.

one thing i loved about the books is how he portrays the kids and their emotions.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
I may have to consider the books as well. Spring 2012. Ugh.

I saw the final scene coming a mile away -- ever since she did not get burned by the hot eggs -- yet it was still wonderful when it happened. The whole witch thing caught me a bit off guard.

Next week True Blood returns. Then Curb Your Enthusiasm, then Entourage, then Boardwalk Empire. And, of course, we have to wait a year, but, it will / better be worth it for the next season of this. I have to say, as a person who watches virtually zero network television, HBO is just about the most no-brainer $20/month I could possibly imagine spending.
S spoMember
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
But still can HBO pull of 7 seasons when the 6th and 7th book aren't even out? Can you keep your excellent cast together, what about the child actors? With all those years of Harry Potter movies they were bringing in hundreds of millions of dollars in profit and cross-promotions. Will HBO be able to finish A Song of Fire and Ice, and will I live long enough to see it?


Great show. I would love to see it play out for 7 seasons. Maybe the writer should contribute to the TV shows and then write the books at his typical pace. It wouldn't be the end of the world if season 6 aired before the 6th book was out. Smile An unlikely solution but it sounds good to me.
A azwineryanMember
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Originally posted by winetarelli:

Next week True Blood returns. Then Curb Your Enthusiasm, then Entourage, then Boardwalk Empire. And, of course, we have to wait a year, but, it will / better be worth it for the next season of this. I have to say, as a person who watches virtually zero network television, HBO is just about the most no-brainer $20/month I could possibly imagine spending.


+1. You pretty much just named the 4 best shows on TV, and they're all on the same network. I do have a soft spot for Dexter and Californication on Showtime, but HBO is clearly the king of premium programming. I'm really enjoying the brand new Franklin & Bash show on TNT as well right now.
winetarelliwinetarelliMember
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:

Next week True Blood returns. Then Curb Your Enthusiasm, then Entourage, then Boardwalk Empire. And, of course, we have to wait a year, but, it will / better be worth it for the next season of this. I have to say, as a person who watches virtually zero network television, HBO is just about the most no-brainer $20/month I could possibly imagine spending.


+1. You pretty much just named the 4 best shows on TV, and they're all on the same network. I do have a soft spot for Dexter and Californication on Showtime, but HBO is clearly the king of premium programming. I'm really enjoying the brand new Franklin & Bash show on TNT as well right now.

I haven't seen Franklin & Bash, looks entertaining and we seem to have similar taste, I may check it out... I like the attractive naked girls on Californication, but I find the show, overall, a bit simplistic and strangely preachy in an odd sort of way. Dexter, on the other hand, imo, is outright excellence. Seasons 1 and 2 were very good. 3, 4 and 5 were off the charts brilliant, with 4 (Lithgow) maybe being the best season of plot driven drama I have ever seen.
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