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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.

Agreed, it was done to show the male domination of the society, but it may have been overkill. Meanwhile, those girls are stunning.
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.


Lol. Some time during the show last night, my wife turned to me and said, "Is that the only position they used back then?"

But yes, this show looks very promising indeed. We haven't watched last night's third episode of 'The Borgias' yet, but I can already tell that I'll enjoy Game of Thrones more. Though I guess I already expected that going in...HBO always seems to deliver for me more than Showtime. Don't get me wrong, Dexter and Californication are two of my favorites shows on TV, but HBO seems to deliver a more epic feel, and higher production value when it comes to these kinds of shows - not to say Showtime didn't deliver with 'The Tudors' though, which was stellar.
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.

Agreed, it was done to show the male domination of the society, but it may have been overkill. Meanwhile, those girls are stunning.


Former 15, just what exactly am I missing here? Confused Wink
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.

Agreed, it was done to show the male domination of the society, but it may have been overkill. Meanwhile, those girls are stunning.


Former 15, just what exactly am I missing here? Confused Wink

Are you saying you don't find the girls attractive, or are you saying you don't know what we are talking about? This is a NSFW shot of one of the primary stars. We'll see how the plot goes, but it seems interesting.
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.

I didn't read the books but, as I said, it looks really good. Almost a cross between The Sopranos and Lord of the Rings. I agree about Dinklage.
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.


I think I prefer you when you are complaining or criticizing something. This is too out of character for you and outside of my comfort zone.
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Originally posted by spo:
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.


I think I prefer you when you are complaining or criticizing something. This is too out of character for you and outside of my comfort zone.

Anybody who doesn't like this show is an asshole. Better?
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
This show is perfectly done. Fans of the book, except hardcore perfectionists, can only be thrilled. Outsiders should find no trouble quickly getting sucked into this fantasy world. And for those of us who think Peter Dinklage is great, a showcase vehicle for his talents.

I didn't read the books but, as I said, it looks really good. Almost a cross between The Sopranos and Lord of the Rings. I agree about Dinklage.

Funny to mention The Sopranos. Did you note that the first show was directed by The Sopranos goto guy Timothy Van Patten? He of the mega-hotness The Wire.
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
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Originally posted by snipes:
Agreed, looks promising. I did think the requisite doggy style in each sex scene got a bit tiring though.


Lol. Some time during the show last night, my wife turned to me and said, "Is that the only position they used back then?"

The missionaries hadn't come along yet to spoil things...
Last night was abit slow and seemed to drag. Maybe they are sitting us up for something, but the entire deal with the kid sword fight, other tha the treachory of the group, just didn't seem to fit!

Saw a short interview with the guy that plays the nomad leader with the hot white hair babe. There is a reason he has a non speaking role to date! Roll Eyes
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Originally posted by Sandy Fitzgerald:
Last night was abit slow and seemed to drag. Maybe they are sitting us up for something, but the entire deal with the kid sword fight, other tha the treachory of the group, just didn't seem to fit!

Saw a short interview with the guy that plays the nomad leader with the hot white hair babe. There is a reason he has a non speaking role to date! Roll Eyes

The sword fight will have meaning for the Prince's relationship with Sansa. I say no more.
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Originally posted by Chilicat:
While I understand they are trying to bring a sprawling epic to the small screen I do think if you've not read the books you are missing quite a bit of subplot and character insight.

I always try to approach the medium on its own terms. I don't care about the book. Just look at this show (or movie or work of art or whatever.) Is it compelling, well produced well acted? With GoT the answer is a resounding YES.

The only way to truly translate a book to the screen is put all the text on the screen and perhaps have a narrator read all the words.

I've said before, and I'll say again, to say that a movie is not as good as the book is a meaningless statement.
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
I've said before, and I'll say again, to say that a movie is not as good as the book is a meaningless statement.


You'll notice I refrained from judging any merit, i.e. it's as good/not good as the book, and merely made an observation. Based on the comments I'm reading here, I stand by that observation: much insight is lost if you haven't read the book(s). For instance, as I noted above, the Dothraki are not having sex "doggy style," they are having sex in a method that imitates the horses that are such a part of their culture. It's a pretty keen insight you're missing not knowing that and leads to the comments/conclusions I've read here.

Also, not reading the book(s) and watching the movie is neither good nor bad, it just leaves you in a state of imperfect information and insight that the author conveyed in the book. I really wasn't trying to get into any discursive analysis of various mediums and modes of expression...just kind of making a simple observation.
i'm watching game of thrones/the borgais/camelot, and yes, i get confused here and there too...

thank GOD for "the killing"... Razz

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Originally posted by kingofcool:
Anyone notice the character that is in both the Borgias and GOT? Confused me for a second.
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Originally posted by TBird:
i'm watching game of thrones/the borgais/camelot, and yes, i get confused here and there too...

thank GOD for "the killing"... Razz

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Originally posted by kingofcool:
Anyone notice the character that is in both the Borgias and GOT? Confused me for a second.


I am still confused about the character names in GOT, need a cheat sheet.
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Originally posted by mareff:
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Originally posted by TBird:
i'm watching game of thrones/the borgais/camelot, and yes, i get confused here and there too...

thank GOD for "the killing"... Razz

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Originally posted by kingofcool:
Anyone notice the character that is in both the Borgias and GOT? Confused me for a second.


I am still confused about the character names in GOT, need a cheat sheet.


don't worry, they all die sooner or later.

oops.
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
I'm surprised no one's said anything about this show since its early episodes. It has quickly become one of my favorite shows on TV right now. The last 2 episodes have been killer.

My favorite plot-based show airing new episodes on TV right now...

[obvious edit]
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
I'm surprised no one's said anything about this show since its early episodes. It has quickly become one of my favorite shows on TV right now. The last 2 episodes have been killer.

My favorite scripted show airing new episodes on TV right now...

I'm assuming you're thinking of sports or talk shows as UNscripted, not reality shows which off course have unsung, though credited, writers.
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Originally posted by Mr Cabernet:
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
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Originally posted by AZwineRyan:
I'm surprised no one's said anything about this show since its early episodes. It has quickly become one of my favorite shows on TV right now. The last 2 episodes have been killer.

My favorite scripted show airing new episodes on TV right now...

I'm assuming you're thinking of sports or talk shows as UNscripted, not reality shows which off course have unsung, though credited, writers.

You are correct. I was thinking of a way of defining it as a category that does not include shows like, specifically, The Daily Show and The Colbert Report -- not that I don't like it more than those shows, nor less, I just feel they are so different that it is unfair to compare them. Of course most of those shows are also scripted.

What I should have said is that it is my favorite plot-based show on TV airing new episodes right now.
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Originally posted by wineismylife:
I understood you perfectly winetarelli. No added explanation needed. Wink

Thank you for me, I'm stoopid.

Unfortunately we live in a time when the lowest form of TV in its history has pretty much taken over. Low cost--high ratings, a programmer's dream.
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Originally posted by winetarelli:
How did no one post on this thread after last week's episode? This week's is entitled The Pointy End. So excited. I haven't read the books so I can only imagine what is coming...


The same thing instantly came to my mind as soon as I noticed this thread bumped up..."how has no one posted about last week's episode yet?"

This series has continued to get stronger each episode of the season thus far, and last week's episode took it to a different level. I'm excited to see what happens tonight.

Clearly the best show on TV right now, and one of the best overall shows on TV in general for that matter.
A great episode and also shows how they've got so much talent that even a semi-major character like Sansa tears it up at the end.

Unfortunately there will really be nowhere for this to go. With the fifth book coming out after an almost 6 year wait, and with two more books due to end the series, I don't think you'll ever see a resolution on HBO.
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Originally posted by mareff:
Having never read these books, is the story on HBO coming close to the actual plots in the books?

The show is an excellent adaptation of the first book A Game of Thrones. Many scenes in the book have been cut to keep it to 10 episodes, but if they didn't you'd need at least double that. Almost every major event and scene from the book is represented however.

The look and attention to detail must thrill all Martin fans except the diehards. And Martin has said it's faithful to the book. Also note he wrote last night's excellent episode. But the problem will be that even though each book ends with a real punch (and begins with one for that matter) there is no conclusion yet to the series. And even if there was could HBO continue with its excellent production values for seven seasons? Though HBO has, as noted, already announced the production of the second book I can't see where they can make a commitment to finish the series. It would need Roots-like ratings.

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