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G g-manMember
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Originally posted by Maverick:
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Originally posted by Francis S:

OK. Whatever. You're [all] stupid.

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If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.
~ Zen saying



Nan-in, a Japanese master during the Meiji era (1868-1912), received a university professor who came to inquire about Zen.

Nan-in served tea. He poured his visitor's cup full, and then kept on pouring.

The professor watched the overflow until he no longer could restrain himself. "It is overfull. No more will go in!"

"Like this cup," Nan-in said, "you are full of your own opinions and speculations. How can I show you Zen unless you first empty your cup?"

read some proper zen koans pls internet quotes hurt the chakra
G g-manMember
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
Just in Vegas with some friends. One was a vegan. Talk about a miserable experience trying to get her to wrap up her order in a restaurant--"Does it have cheese in it, is it cooked in butter, there aren't any eggs in it, can you make the chicken salad without chicken...?"


i have a friend that'sa fruitarean. At least when we go out it's pretty straight forward.
robsutherlandrobsutherlandMember
I've had plenty of vegan dishes and many of them have been very tasty, it's so hard to make some things good though! Polenta and Ratatouille, fine easy, tasty, Love it.

Making a 30 step meal when you could take out 10 of the steps by using cheese and and another 10 with butter though is only for the hardcore. Unless you ARE vegan why would you go through the trouble to get something difficult to make that is ALMOST as good as something else that is so easy and equally healthy?
robsutherlandrobsutherlandMember
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Originally posted by g-man:
quote:
Originally posted by The Old Man:
Just in Vegas with some friends. One was a vegan. Talk about a miserable experience trying to get her to wrap up her order in a restaurant--"Does it have cheese in it, is it cooked in butter, there aren't any eggs in it, can you make the chicken salad without chicken...?"


i have a friend that'sa fruitarean. At least when we go out it's pretty straight forward.


I have a friend whose rule is she won't eat anything that had or came from something that had eyelashes. I just roll the eyeballs under my eyelashes. I did ask once if any of her boyfriends ever asked "Where does this leave me?"
G g-manMember
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I've had plenty of vegan dishes and many of them have been very tasty, it's so hard to make some things good though! Polenta and Ratatouille, fine easy, tasty, Love it.

Making a 30 step meal when you could take out 10 of the steps by using cheese and and another 10 with butter though is only for the hardcore. Unless you ARE vegan why would you go through the trouble to get something difficult to make that is ALMOST as good as something else that is so easy and equally healthy?


I recall this convo with a nutritionist talking about how only if you really have more money than sense and a heck of a lot of time to prep your meal would veganism really work out well. She mentioned, it's great that you can eat whatever you want, simply because it took you 3 hours to prep whatever you want that it'd be time for the next meal anyway.
mneeley490mneeley490Member
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Originally posted by irwin:
I'll admit to grilling asparagus. The key is to lay them on the grill perpendicular to the grates, not parallel to them, otherwise they fall in.


A meal without wine is called breakfast.

Sorry, I had a mimosa yesterday.
For the record, although I grill nearly every meat available, I love grilled asparagus. It's the best way to prepare them, imo.

Vegan Powers!
S stefaniawineMember
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Originally posted by Maverick:
LOL. I love this.

I'll be willing to bet that not even one(1) of you ball-busters even looked at the thread.

VEGAN Bahn Mi

~ Tofu Bahn Mi
2 Tbs soy sauce
2 Tsp brown suger
1 package firm tofu, diced

One baguette



Well you should know I did. I'm the guy who went gluten free on a dare from Grossie after all. I'm not eating any of the above after messing with Grossie's lead. I've never felt better, have tons of energy, I'm in the best shape since I stopped playing hockey and I've lost 30 pounds. Meat is a main part of that though.

What ever works for people though.
G g-manMember
i've actaully never been to the chicago CDP.

You way northerners and the way southerners, I've yet had to the chance to meet you guys.

Regardless, I'd be surprised you can replace the "fish" taste in fish sauce. I've tried a couple and they are all slight variations of soy sauce. Can it be good? yes definitely, but it doesn't have that fishy taste.
G g-manMember
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Originally posted by Maverick:
Think about it like this, it's an "ingredient" or a condiment to a larger flavor. It does what it does to get the job done, like a good Union player. Another example is EVOO. If you use it in a dressing with more than maybe 3 other things, you lose the fact that you paid more $$$ for it's taste qualities. There is a lot going on in the Bahn Mi that any little nuisances of your fish sauce won't really be missed. I don't think so anyway.


the defining taste of a bahn mi is fish sauce and liver.

You can infact utilizing soy protein, rice flour, soy sauce and cumin recreate the liver texture and flavor. (which you don't do btw in your recipe) Fish sauce though is such a strong flavor, that you don't really replicate a bahn mi without it.

it aint a big mac if it don't have its special sauce.
T tpewinedrinkerMember
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Originally posted by Maverick:
Southwest Chipotle Chickpea Burgers

These burgers have a smokey flavor, and are dense and filling, making them perfect for a vegan burger fix.

1 can chickpeas (1 15-oz can)
2 new potatoes, cooked and cut into quarters
1 medium onion, finely chopped
1 large tomato, coarsely chopped
1 small jalepeño, minced (optional)
2 chipotle chiles in adobo sauce
1 tsp salt
Freshly ground pepper
1/3 c quinoa flakes or corn meal
Olive oil

1. In a small skillet, heat a little olive oil over medium-high heat. Add the onions and sauté until translucent and just starting to brown. Add the minced jalapeño and saute for 2-3 minutes, until just softened. Add the tomatoes and cook until softened. Remove from heat.

2. Combine the chickpeas, chipotle chiles and quartered potatoes in a food processor or a large bowl with a wand blender. Pulse until smooth. Add the onion and tomato mixture and spices, and stir with a spoon or fork until thoroughly combined.

3. On a large plate, sprinkle quinoa flakes or corn meal. Place the patty in the "crumbs" and turn to coat the outside of the patty.

4. In a large skillet, heat a little olive oil over medium heat. Add the patties and cook until golden, about 3-5 minutes. Flip and cook the other side until golden.

5. Serve on a bun with lettuce, tomato, and all the other fixings you love best on a burger.

Enjoy!

I will stick with beef.
purplehazepurplehazeMember
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Originally posted by Maverick:
Very very few recipes ... anywhere ... are original.


True, but disingenuous. That's like saying that no writing is original because all the words have been used elsewhere. When you copy and paste someone else's writing verbatim, including editorial comments, opinions etc. without attribution, the implication is that the writing and content are yours. As a "known" cook, it's even more incumbent on you to be clear. Nothing wrong with posting other folks writing. Attribution is just a form of courtesy to the originator, and honesty to your reader.

PH
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S seaquamMember
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Originally posted by Maverick:
Wonderful. Everything is all good. You can take your "disingenuous", and shove it… You can continue… I'm not going to continue… I am however, going to continue… oh well… sorry.




I think I sort of get what you're saying, though I think what you meant to say was that you didn't think it was a problem to post other people's recipes, but now that you know it might be a problem, you're going to cite the source of the recipes. Or possibly as an alternative, you're simply going to provide a link to the recipe so that anyone who's interested can just read the original.

I have been blessed with the ability to read between the lines and understand what people meant to write, even if they didn't. I feel very lucky in that respect. Smile
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