Looking for advice on the region...heading there in mid-October.

Will have a Friday afternoon/evening and all day Saturday to explore. Home base is Montour Falls. We want to visit at least a few wineries and enjoy a national park or two. Open to restaurant suggestions as well.

Any wineries that are not to be skipped? The misses and I prefer more mineral driven rieslings and have a soft spot for cab franc. Also, how's the beer and spirits scene in the area?

Already started doing some research but figured there are some locals on this board as well who have great knowledge.
Thanks.
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Hermann Wiemer and Konstantin Frank are my picks as best wineries.

Next echelon, Lamoreaux Landing and Fox Run.

Favorite hotel is Geneva on the Lake. Their dining room, Lancellotti, is my favorite restaurant.


Thanks Board-O. Any comments on Forge? Chateau de Saint Cosme is a favorite producer and Louis Barruol's involvement peaked my interest.
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Originally posted by Trastevere:
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Originally posted by Board-O:
Hermann Wiemer and Konstantin Frank are my picks as best wineries.

Next echelon, Lamoreaux Landing and Fox Run.

Favorite hotel is Geneva on the Lake. Their dining room, Lancellotti, is my favorite restaurant.


Thanks Board-O. Any comments on Forge? Chateau de Saint Cosme is a favorite producer and Louis Barruol's involvement peaked my interest.


I've to the Finger Lakes many times, most recently 21 months ago, but I've never been to Forge and know nothing about them.
We visited last August and I second Hermann J. Wiemer but I would skip visiting Konstantin Frank. While I like their wines, a visit to their tasting room is just like any other tourist trap. Unless you are a member of their wine club you cannot taste any of the better wines. I would much prefer going to wineries that aren't quite so commercial.

Another winery I enjoyed visiting was Ravines. I visited Fox Run but they were having a garlic festival (which was fun) but they weren't offering tastings due to the huge crowds.

Geneva on the Lake is quite nice, if you can get a room. I also very much enjoyed Belhurst Castle. Of course, it depends a lot on what you want to spend.
So Watkins Glen is a must. A great park with nice trail to soak in some nature.
In Canandaigua now myself. The New York Wine and Culinary Center is a good place to taste several wines from the region and Canandaigua lake itself is beautiful. Down the west side of the lake is Bristol Mountain which has some zip lines and other "active" nature among other things. Enjoy your trip, it should be a beautiful time of year.
The mention of Bristol Mountain brings back lots of memories. As a kid I skied there numerous times. Smart of them to do zip lines in the off season. It was the closest downhill mountain to where I grew up in the suburbs of Rochester. Enjoy your time in the area.

IW
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Appreciate all the feedback. Will report back with some thoughts after the trip...


Some of the advise is from "Trip Advisor" Do not believe everything from Board-O. As one that have lived there for 45 Years.

Do not stay in Montour or the Glen. Very touristy, [poor resturants and over priced. Look at Geneva or Canandaigua.

Yes do go thru the Glen. Hope there is adequate water. During dry season sucks.

Look at Belhurst in Geneva for a place to stay. Less costly than Geneva on the Lake. Get to stay in the old castle. Very quaint

Be sure to go to Hammondsport [Foot of Keauka Lake] and Naples [Foot of Canandaigua Lake] very artsie, quaint, and nice food shops

Be sure to Go to Glenora[ Poor wine but has a tasting room with a super view

Look at NYS wine web site. There are suggested tour Keuka Lake wine tour, Canandaigua wine tour, Seneca etc. Do only One per day. Long way around the lakes

For good lunchs, Look at Red Newt Bistro on east side of Senaca. Food awesome Wine good too. Fox Run has a good deli.

Also Add these Wineries:
Ravines
heron Hill so good and some bad Near Dr Frank
Anthony Road
Red Newt
Hermann Wiemer Great Rieslings
Forge good and bad
Lamoreaux landing

sorry for late notice was on vacation. Excuse typing, done on an iPad
FLWino - appreciate the feedback about the region (I'll let you and Board-O duke it out for Floridian supremacy).

The location choice was mostly based on the fact that I'm attending a wedding on Cayuta Lake that weekend. As there is only 48 hours between touch down and the wedding our winery visits will be limited. Most in contention are on Seneca Lake.

Heard good things about Red Newt bistro (and I enjoy their wines in general) so that's a possibility. Was looking at Dano's Heuriger for dinner. Ever eaten there?
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FLWino - appreciate the feedback about the region (I'll let you and Board-O duke it out for Floridian supremacy).

The location choice was mostly based on the fact that I'm attending a wedding on Cayuta Lake that weekend. As there is only 48 hours between touch down and the wedding our winery visits will be limited. Most in contention are on Seneca Lake.

Heard good things about Red Newt bistro (and I enjoy their wines in general) so that's a possibility. Was looking at Dano's Heuriger for dinner. Ever eaten there?


I like Dano's a lot. Red Newt bistro can be ok, but I have had mixed experiences and never did like their wines much. It's a pass for me.
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I like Dano's a lot. Red Newt bistro can be ok, but I have had mixed experiences and never did like their wines much. It's a pass for me.


Thanks. Given you are a resident of the area certainly interested in hearing some of your other thoughts/suggestions.
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The mention of Bristol Mountain brings back lots of memories. As a kid I skied there numerous times. Smart of them to do zip lines in the off season. It was the closest downhill mountain to where I grew up in the suburbs of Rochester. Enjoy your time in the area.
IW

Same here IW. There and Swain.
We did the wine festival in July and tasted an insane amount of wines. I was also looking for mineral driven dry Rieslings and found two producers which didn't disappoint.
J.R. Dill
Leidenfrost
I can't say anything about their tasting bars since we didn't visit the wineries but their Rieslings hit the spot. Definitively on my list when I return. As far as the CF I didn't find anything memorable.

Watkins Glen park is stunning and Ithaca's Treman (upper one) park just majestic.
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Ithaca's Treman (upper one) park just majestic.


My parents took me here many times when I was young. Buttermilk falls was also good, There are falls in downtown Ithaca Cascadilla Falls by Cornell.

As I remember there are about 100 falls in the area
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Originally posted by VINELOUSE:

Ithaca's Treman (upper one) park just majestic.


My parents took me here many times when I was young. Buttermilk falls was also good, There are falls in downtown Ithaca Cascadilla Falls by Cornell.

As I remember there are about 100 falls in the area


Also, Taughannock Falls. Taller than Niagara Falls.
Got a chance to visit a handful of wineries, restaurants and two breweries. First data point, we didn't venture off Seneca Lake. Overall, strangely, I was underwhelmed with Riesling offerings across the board. For a region with a reputation based on the varietal I expected more, in terms of complexity and flavor finish. Not to say they were bad, perhaps my expectations were too high.

Here's some thoughts, in the order we visited:

Two Goats Brewery - Great views, slight hippie vibe in a log cabin on a hillside perch. The Hefeweizen was solid and thought the Wyck'd Nuggets IPA was outstanding.

Lamoreaux Landing - We took home some of their 2014 Chardonnay. For someone who doesn't drink much of the varietal I found it a standout among all that we tasted (from Gruner, to Riesling to Cab Franc).

Forge - Almost took top spot for us. Think it is only a matter of time before they are a force in the region. Single vineyard 2015 Rieslings showed plenty of complexity. Great stone, fruit balance.

Hopshire Farm and Brewery - Their CoHOPeration and Near Varna IPA stood out. Unassuming place and worth a stop if you're in the area.

Anthony Road - 2016 Dry Riesling was our favorite. The skin ferment Chardonnay was a close second. Think they missed the mark on a Cab Franc/Lemberger blend.

Hermann J. Wiemer - Feel like the hype set the bar higher and they didn't deliver. There wasn't a wine we tasted that we were dissatisfied with, but just felt that as a leader in the region should have delivered more. The quality to price feel short. Wines not that complex, flavor profiles showed regional characteristics, finishes were cut short at times. Actually found their Cab Franc to be the star of the show.

Finger Lakes Distillery - The biggest disappointment of our trip. From a tasting perspective not worth the visit. If you're looking for a cocktail with a good view, I guess you could stop by.

Hector Wine Company - We tasted all they had to offer both white and red. Not much to write home about. Quite surprising considering the winemaker is also involved with Forge.

Red Newt - Perhaps it was the extremely informed server, or the fact that she let us try nearly everything listed and we weren't disappointed with any, but this place took home honors (slightly above Forge). Their single vineyard Rieslings was more in line with my expectations of the region (and exceeded them most of the time) and their Gew├╝rztraminer was the top wine of the trip. As a fan of Cab Franc I thought they had an excellent representation in their Glacier Ridge Vineyard.

We ate at the Stonecat and Dano's - very enjoyable food. A fun trip - only wish we had more time to visit other recommendations like Fox Fun, Silver Thread, and K.Frank. For what it's worth, we were told that Wiemer recently purchased Standing Stone Vineyards (another recommendation from the locals).

Thanks for all the info. Helped a great deal.

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