It's interesting (to me anyway) that the vast majority of the names are all under conglomerate ownership of a very few. Predominantly Richemont & LVMH for watches (same with most all lux goods brands really, with the addition of a very few add'l names)
quote:Originally posted by KSC02:
It's interesting (to me anyway) that the vast majority of the names are all under conglomerate ownership of a very few. Predominantly Richemont & LVMH for watches (same with most all lux goods brands really, with the addition of a very few add'l names)
K, just like your business and your new role ... know your audience and speak their language.
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
Rob, the Glashutte senator is a watch I have nearly bought twice now.
The thing worth watching to me is, what if PP only produces this watch for one or two years. If that happens, the $47k will be a nice buy.
I'm a fan of Zenith's pilot watches.
Glashutte is under appreciated. The Senator comes in so many great iterations...
You're right Zenith makes a great pilot watch. I'm especially fond of the Type 20 and because it doesn't use the el-primero it's very reasonable.
And I guess I agree that the PP pilot might be a smart buy and it's a great looking watch, I'm just surprised that Patek went in that direction. It's not them. Then again the PP I'm lusting over (5164/A) most people scoff at and it's the same movement so...
5205G-001 is the one i'm saving up for when i retire
before i ever dropped $50 on a PP, i would simply save my money and double down on a Roger Smith.
If you're going for a dress watch my lusted for unicorn is a platinum FP Journe Octa Reserve de Marche.
That and the Aquanaut is all you'd ever need.
That and the Aquanaut is all you'd ever need.
quote:Originally posted by Řøß_ŚƱŧȞƎƦĿǣɴđ:
If you're going for a dress watch my lusted for unicorn is a platinum FP Journe Octa Reserve de Marche.
That and the Aquanaut is all you'd ever need.
u need a pocket watch too ;-)
quote:Originally posted by Řøß_ŚƱŧȞƎƦĿǣɴđ:
And I guess I agree that the PP pilot might be a smart buy and it's a great looking watch, I'm just surprised that Patek went in that direction. It's not them.
Completely agree, not what you think of when thinking about PP. It was the show stopper at the 2015 Baselworld this year.
quote:Originally posted by Wine doc:
The new Patek Pilot watch is indeed a beauty.
Certainly breaks the mold.
As an investment vehicle, it certainly will not lose value and stands to gain a great deal. I received a Calatrava (5296G-001) as a wedding gift 8 years ago, and it is already priced nearly 70% higher.
I cannot wait to see what your get for your 10 year anniversary!
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:quote:Originally posted by Wine doc:
The new Patek Pilot watch is indeed a beauty.
Certainly breaks the mold.
As an investment vehicle, it certainly will not lose value and stands to gain a great deal. I received a Calatrava (5296G-001) as a wedding gift 8 years ago, and it is already priced nearly 70% higher.
I cannot wait to see what your get for your 10 year anniversary!
indeed!
So, I need some quick advice.
My 13 year old wants to buy himself a watch. He's interested in a Fossil Townsman Automatic stainless steel watch. Looks like it runs for about $250.
I know nothing about the Fossil brand. I do know that at that price range, he could look at a Seiko, Hamilton or Citizen.
Anyone know anything about Fossil?
I'd like him to make his own choice, but if the difference in quality is large enough to point him towards something else, I might "suggest" a different brand.
Thanks.
My 13 year old wants to buy himself a watch. He's interested in a Fossil Townsman Automatic stainless steel watch. Looks like it runs for about $250.
I know nothing about the Fossil brand. I do know that at that price range, he could look at a Seiko, Hamilton or Citizen.
Anyone know anything about Fossil?
I'd like him to make his own choice, but if the difference in quality is large enough to point him towards something else, I might "suggest" a different brand.
Thanks.
quote:Originally posted by Rothko:
So, I need some quick advice.
My 13 year old wants to buy himself a watch. He's interested in a Fossil Townsman Automatic stainless steel watch. Looks like it runs for about $250.
I know nothing about the Fossil brand. I do know that at that price range, he could look at a Seiko, Hamilton or Citizen.
Anyone know anything about Fossil?
I'd like him to make his own choice, but if the difference in quality is large enough to point him towards something else, I might "suggest" a different brand.
Thanks.
Rothko . . . these are fairly decent watches which, if memory serves, is owned by the Swatch Group. My nephew has a fossil watch (not that particular one); bangs it up pretty good and is has lasted a while.
Hamilton is certainly more of a "legitimate" watch for a burgeoning watch aficionado than Fossil in this price category. One other watch you might want to check out is Shinola. not sure of price point but this is an American brand. Odd name, yes, but they have some pretty nice looking designs, will be pretty distinctive (if your son cares about that) and have gotten pretty good press about their movements
I would say the fact that your 13 year old is interested in an analogue, automatic watch is good enough right now! I wouldn't push him and just be happy he doesn't want to use his phone to check the time!
Rothko, I agree with Rob.
Fossil is a company started and based in Dallas, and produces many fashion items, including watches. They also make many other fashion watches under different branding.
They bought out Zodiac ( Swiss based) watches years ago, and for their price point seem to be very popular.
As for Shinola, they buy movements out of the Far East or from ETA, and are in the $500-$1000 price point I think. As I said, I agree with Rob. He will be proud of his Fossil and a great start to his passion of horology.
Fossil is a company started and based in Dallas, and produces many fashion items, including watches. They also make many other fashion watches under different branding.
They bought out Zodiac ( Swiss based) watches years ago, and for their price point seem to be very popular.
As for Shinola, they buy movements out of the Far East or from ETA, and are in the $500-$1000 price point I think. As I said, I agree with Rob. He will be proud of his Fossil and a great start to his passion of horology.
quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
Rothko, I agree with Rob.
Fossil is a company started and based in Dallas, and produces many fashion items, including watches. They also make many other fashion watches under different branding.
They bought out Zodiac ( Swiss based) watches years ago, and for their price point seem to be very popular.
As for Shinola, they buy movements out of the Far East or from ETA, and are in the $500-$1000 price point I think. As I said, I agree with Rob. He will be proud of his Fossil and a great start to his passion of horology.
Shinola buys movements from Far East? They have done some crafty advertising then because all their advertisements highly suggest they are an all-American brand. Good to know
quote:Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
I would say the fact that your 13 year old is interested in an analogue, automatic watch is good enough right now! I wouldn't push him and just be happy he doesn't want to use his phone to check the time!
And kudos to him for not jumping on an I-watch!
Thanks for the advice.
I think I'll just keep my mouth shut and let him buy the Fossil that he wants.
And, yes, I agree it's great to have a son who is interested in wearing a watch. I bought a watch for my older son, and he wore it like 20 times and then stopped.
I think I'll just keep my mouth shut and let him buy the Fossil that he wants.
And, yes, I agree it's great to have a son who is interested in wearing a watch. I bought a watch for my older son, and he wore it like 20 times and then stopped.
quote:Originally posted by Parcival:quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
Rothko, I agree with Rob.
Fossil is a company started and based in Dallas, and produces many fashion items, including watches. They also make many other fashion watches under different branding.
They bought out Zodiac ( Swiss based) watches years ago, and for their price point seem to be very popular.
As for Shinola, they buy movements out of the Far East or from ETA, and are in the $500-$1000 price point I think. As I said, I agree with Rob. He will be proud of his Fossil and a great start to his passion of horology.
Shinola buys movements from Far East? They have done some crafty advertising then because all their advertisements highly suggest they are an all-American brand. Good to know
K, I sent you an email.
quote:Originally posted by Parcival:quote:Originally posted by wine+art:
Rothko, I agree with Rob.
Fossil is a company started and based in Dallas, and produces many fashion items, including watches. They also make many other fashion watches under different branding.
They bought out Zodiac ( Swiss based) watches years ago, and for their price point seem to be very popular.
As for Shinola, they buy movements out of the Far East or from ETA, and are in the $500-$1000 price point I think. As I said, I agree with Rob. He will be proud of his Fossil and a great start to his passion of horology.
Shinola buys movements from Far East? They have done some crafty advertising then because all their advertisements highly suggest they are an all-American brand. Good to know
I just looked it up. Shinola watches are assembled in Detroit, but use a "Swiss" movement made by Ronda. To call it a "Swiss" movement, I believe it must be designed in Switzerland, the design must have been originally made in Switzerland, and must contain a certain percentage of Swiss parts (maybe 30%?), but it can use parts from, and be put together in another country, and still be called "Swiss". In this case, it seems the movements are made either in Hong Kong or Thailand. This fact has raised criticism of the brand image (thus the nickname "Chinola"). But since the Shinola product actually does result in real jobs in the city of Detroit, most of the criticism has faded. Even if it's not 100%, it is more "American" than Seiko or Tag Hauer, for example. I believe Tag has been known to use similar Asian made "Swiss" movements in some of their watches from time to time.