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Originally posted by CSM:

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Originally posted by wine+art:

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Originally posted by CSM:
Have narrowed my next choice down to either a Zenith Chronomaser Open Grande Date or a PAM 347. Not usually a fan of Panerai, but this one is speaking to me.

Very nice, CSM.

It is a casual day for me today and I'm wearing a Panerai.

The PAM 347 is really the classic PAM 321 with a metal band. I'm a fan of the P 9000 movement ( in-house) and think you would enjoy the watch. That said, I do love Zenith as well ( excellent movements) and you cannot go wrong here. Does the Zenith have a metal strap? Not sure I have seen that watch with metal before.

The Zenith does have a metal strap yes. The face is just a lot busier than the Panerai so I'm concerned I'll not like it over the long run, which is why I'm leaning toward the Panerai, along with the in house movement.

Much busier for sure. The Panerai sandwich face is classic and clean for sure.

The only thing with a bracelet on a Panerai is if you wear it all the time people will begin to think you're a chronic masturbator. Your left bicep will get huge. They are a lethal weapon/ 2 lbs of steel on your arm...

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
The only thing with a bracelet on a Panerai is if you wear it all the time people will begin to think you're a chronic masturbator. Your left bicep will get huge. They are a lethal weapon/ 2 lbs of steel on your arm...

But I wear my watch on my left arm and....never mind.

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
The only thing with a bracelet on a Panerai is if you wear it all the time people will begin to think you're a chronic masturbator. Your left bicep will get huge. They are a lethal weapon/ 2 lbs of steel on your arm...

thanks Rob. I needed a chuckle today.

In light of the above, i switched the wrist my watch was on and if i close my eyes it does kinda feel like someone else is wearing it.

I love my Panerai. Band is skin not metal so my biceps are equal in size.

Can anyone comment on the Panerai in-house versus out of house movement? Pros and cons?

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
The only thing with a bracelet on a Panerai is if you wear it all the time people will begin to think you're a chronic masturbator. Your left bicep will get huge. They are a lethal weapon/ 2 lbs of steel on your arm...

You're assuming one must wear a watch for such.

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Originally posted by Wine doc:
Can anyone comment on the Panerai in-house versus out of house movement? Pros and cons?

E, I will email you.

Like W+A, I have a Panerai with the in-house P900 movement. I'll leave the pro's/cons list to him, but I have been pleased with mine so far. It's hard to truly gauge a movement's reliability/consistency without a number of years of service to compare. That said, so far, so good. It's been as good as my Blancpain, which is the gold-standard in my small collection.

I opted for a vintage leather band rather than a metal band to suit the look I wanted in my PAM.

FWIW - I've noticed no significant change in my personal sex life since owning the PAM...

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Originally posted by CSM:
Have narrowed my next choice down to either a Zenith Chronomaser Open Grande Date or a PAM 347. Not usually a fan of Panerai, but this one is speaking to me.

CSM, did you buy?

Back to shopping for Panerai. Have gone back and forth between Radiomir and Luminor. Currently leaning towards Luminor PAM 564. Radiomirs are supposed to have a lower profile and fit more easily under the shirt cuff than the Luminor. Anyone have this problem with their Luminor?

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Originally posted by Wine doc:
Back to shopping for Panerai. Have gone back and forth between Radiomir and Luminor. Currently leaning towards Luminor PAM 564. Radiomirs are supposed to have a lower profile and fit more easily under the shirt cuff than the Luminor. Anyone have this problem with their Luminor?

PAM564 is a pretty watch. I never had a problem with shirt cuffs and a 44mm Luminor but I guess if you have somewhat tight button cuffs and a big wrist you could have an issue.

The Radiomir sits much thinner on the wrist and has a smaller profile. It's a more elegant watch.

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Wine doc:
Back to shopping for Panerai. Have gone back and forth between Radiomir and Luminor. Currently leaning towards Luminor PAM 564. Radiomirs are supposed to have a lower profile and fit more easily under the shirt cuff than the Luminor. Anyone have this problem with their Luminor?

PAM564 is a pretty watch. I never had a problem with shirt cuffs and a 44mm Luminor but I guess if you have somewhat tight button cuffs and a big wrist you could have an issue.

The Radiomir sits much thinner on the wrist and has a smaller profile. It's a more elegant watch.

Off the rack shirts are so provincial.

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Originally posted by wine+art:

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Originally posted by CSM:
Have narrowed my next choice down to either a Zenith Chronomaser Open Grande Date or a PAM 347. Not usually a fan of Panerai, but this one is speaking to me.

CSM, did you buy?

Pulling the trigger this week. Saw the Zenith and liked it a lot more than I thought I would. Not sure which I want but I am going to decide by the end of the week.

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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:

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Originally posted by Wine doc:
Back to shopping for Panerai. Have gone back and forth between Radiomir and Luminor. Currently leaning towards Luminor PAM 564. Radiomirs are supposed to have a lower profile and fit more easily under the shirt cuff than the Luminor. Anyone have this problem with their Luminor?

Depends on the shirt - I have one that just won't go over a 44M (Canali) (PAM other, as I own 2 44M), but that's the only one that is super-tight on a 44M timepiece.

PAM564 is a pretty watch. I never had a problem with shirt cuffs and a 44mm Luminor but I guess if you have somewhat tight button cuffs and a big wrist you could have an issue.

The Radiomir sits much thinner on the wrist and has a smaller profile. It's a more elegant watch.

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Originally posted by snipes:
Off the rack shirts are so provincial.

Gents, I believe you've been schooled

Decided on the Zenith today. Really liked the Panerai, but it was just too big for me (not that the Zenith is small). I get it next week!

You chose wisely. I love my Zenith El Primero Rainbow. Keeps great time and looks sharp. Zenith used to make the workings for the Rolex Daytona. Wear it in good health my friend.

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Originally posted by CSM:
Decided on the Zenith today. Really liked the Panerai, but it was just too big for me (not that the Zenith is small). I get it next week!

So????