I know some on these boards are watch afficianados. My brother is considering a Tiffany's watch that is Swiss-made (some kind of Swiss certification for this particular watch) self-winding, and stainless steel for $3K. His questions are: 1) quality - what is the track record on quality for Tiffany watches, 2) recommend similar watchmakers in the same price range but may be better QPR, and 3) what other considerations should my brother factor in buying the watch?

Thanks in advance for your feedback!
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Originally posted by g-man:
anything with the word phillipe patek in it Big Grin

Or Patek Philippe. Seriously though, I'm always wary of jewelry companies that decide to add a branded watch to their portfolio.
What style of watch is he looking for? One of the 1 lb. hunks of metal that are all the rage or a more slim and elegant style?
Personally, I'm an Omega man. It makes me feel like James Bond Smile
I never really heard of tiffany's as a watch name btw, probably end up paying more for the overpriced rocks. Cartier would be in the same range and probably a better watch maker too.

I've seen a Jaeger-Le Coultre for 3k in hong kong but i believe it might have been uhh certified preowned.

The patek's start at like 15k so it was a joke (but it'll be my retirement watch some day)

I personally have an omega deville and a seamaster. Both of them steel. Mass produced, but they look nice and have a great feel =)

And of course, Rolex has a great marketing brand and everyone has heard of a Rolie
The most popular or well known choices frequently are not what the true aficionado would select. Watches, like anything, are quite a personal thing. Audemars Piguet (owned and loved), Blancpain, Chopard, Franck Mueller, IWC, Jaeger-Le Coultre, Patek Phillipe are all high quality names. Pieces in your brother's price range should include Breitling, Cartier, Ebel, Omega and Rolex.

I've owned a Tag-Heuer for years and still love it. Purchased about 14 years ago, the one time I've had an issue with it, T-H repaired and returned for a very minimal fee. I would not hesitate to buy another.
Snipes is correct, buy the manufacturer not the same watch rebranded with the Tiffany logo. And I also agree with g-man. If I was going to buy a new watch and spend a couple of grand, it would be on a Patek. I've dithered over the years on whether or not to buy one and finally decided not to. Years ago I started to collect vintage watches. There are pluses and minuses going the vintage watch route. Just be sure that he whatever he buys, he does it from a legitimate distributor and not through the gray market. I believe Tiffany sells Patek, although perhaps not at all locations.
Tiffany's is a jeweler, not a watchmaker. Same goes for Cartier. If he's looking for a slim, elegant watch try Jaquet Droz - it will definitely be a unique standout masterpiece and not something recognizable by the proletariat. If you're looking for something a little different but also not easily recognizable, go for an Ulysse Nardin. Take a look at IWC watches as well - perfect balance on all fronts; would be my pick in the price range. If you get a Breitling, Rolex, blah blah blah, well, that's about it - blah blah blah.
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Originally posted by tanglenet:
My pricing is old. They use to start at $2,250 and go up from there. I don't know what the entry level is any more. It might be double. The less expensive model (if I remember correctly) looks like the Calatrava 5116.

http://www.patek.com/


Believe the Calatrava line is all upwards of $12K or so at this point, maybe more like $15Kish retail.
I have an interest in watches that nearly matches my wine habit (read: problem). I own a number of manufacturers and can agree with the general advice you are receiving:
    Go with a watch manufacturer, not a "label"
    Tag is an excellent value - I own 3 - no issues with any of them
    Rolex is not really a great timepiece (if that's important to you) -- more of a status symbol. Most are also clunky
    Blancpain (big fan - only own 1, but love it) is great - you'll have a very difficult time at your price point
    Ulysses Nardin = good suggestion! Not sure of pricing...
    Armand Nicollet is nice - buy from a good dealer as a friend had dealer-service issues
    Chopard, Corum (unique, not for everyone), Concord, IWC (low price-point for IWC),and Ebel are all fine
Thanks for all the feedback so far! My brother wants to stay in the $3K range and was actually looking for a new one for his wife and their anniversary. I will have him look at all the suggestions, and I may even want to buy one for myself if the price is right.
My twin brother (w & a)and I have been smitten with the wine and watch bug. I agree with all the comments above.

I wear a Rolex that belonged to my father as my daily timepiece. I have a Tag for travelling and holidays, and a Audemars Piguet Star Wheel
for special occassions. Other than the Tag, the others are not in your brothers price range unless you buy from a reputable jeweller second hand.

I find watches like art. It's hard to buy for someone else. It's a very personal purchase and I think you have to try them on before making any commitment.

I'm interested to know what he settles on. I'm sure it will mean something special in any event.
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Originally posted by DoktaP:
My twin brother (w & a)and I have been smitten with the wine and watch bug. I agree with all the comments above.

I wear a Rolex that belonged to my father as my daily timepiece. I have a Tag for travelling and holidays, and a Audemars Piguet Star Wheel
for special occassions. Other than the Tag, the others are not in your brothers price range unless you buy from a reputable jeweller second hand.

I find watches like art. It's hard to buy for someone else. It's a very personal purchase and I think you have to try them on before making any commitment.

I'm interested to know what he settles on. I'm sure it will mean something special in any event.


As your twin, it seems to me it is now MY time to have Dad's watch for the next 20+ years.

I will forward Moms Casio to you in exchange.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by DoktaP:
...and a Audemars Piguet Star Wheel
for special occasions.

Audemars is often referred to as a 'watchmaker's watch'. Very finely made but often unappreciated by people other than those who 'know' watches. Smile


which means they're WAAAY out of the 3k price range =)
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Originally posted by KSC02:
The most popular or well known choices frequently are not what the true aficionado would select. Watches, like anything, are quite a personal thing. Audemars Piguet (owned and loved), Blancpain, Chopard, Franck Mueller, IWC, Jaeger-Le Coultre, Patek Phillipe are all high quality names.


Breguet Cool


There is only one problem with them.

I will have one incredible cellar and a seriously fast German or Italian car before I ever own one. (To be fair, the type XX line does start around 6k, and the basic gold watch is about 12k but really... where is the fun in those? Wink )
Over breakfast today, I was reading an ad for the Rolex Daytona which can 'perfectly measure elapsed time and calculate average speed... [it] sets the standard for those with a passion for driving and elegance.' Who cares? - I nearly had my license suspended last year (and besides my car has been telling me that for years). Why not just get to the point and tell me how powerful it will make me feel as I push that accelerator down harder!

Yesterday, there was the ad for Patek Philippe which informed me that I wouldn't actually be allowed to own it. It said something about being just a caretaker or something who would look after it for the next generation. Made me feel kind of powerless.

None of these watches seem to do what I really want - which is tell me what time it is in a straightforward, uncluttered, and direct manner. Even the Timex and Saico watches nowadays seem hopelessly cluttered with dials and irrelevant stuff.

I may have to carry on with my humble 35 year old Rolex Tudor for a bit longer. It doesn't tell time very accurately, but based on the ads I am reading lately, telling time is not what watches do anyway.

OK, time to get in the car and get going now.
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Originally posted by on the wine:
I may have to carry on with my humble 35 year old Rolex Tudor for a bit longer. It doesn't tell time very accurately, but based on the ads I am reading lately, telling time is not what watches do anyway.
Ha! I received one myself as a gift 10 years ago. I agree with you that it doesn't tell time accurately, but I do love the classic look.
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Originally posted by latour67:
I wear a Casio! It is Shock Resistant, Water Resistant, Solar Recharged with No Battery Replacement Required, Atomic Time reset every 24 hours, Accurate to < tenth of a second daily.

However, recently I've been considering just using my cell phone. Cool


Same here. I alternate between my casio and my cell. I do plan to get an AP or PP (or both) Smile at some point in my life.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by latour67:


However, recently I've been considering just using my cell phone. Cool



Latour, I have never considered that before. (or a Casio either Razz) Are you thinking an alligator band or just simple leather?


The band is made of cheap rubber, which would have been all the rage in the 17th century Smile
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Originally posted by latour67:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by latour67:


However, recently I've been considering just using my cell phone. Cool



Latour, I have never considered that before. (or a Casio either Razz) Are you thinking an alligator band or just simple leather?


The band is made of cheap rubber, which would have been all the rage in the 17th century Smile



A rubber band on your cell phone around your wrist just seems so prosaic and unimaginative to me. Wink
My Casio watch has a rubber watch band, and my Iphone has a rubber guard around the screen. There's no need to comment on the protection of Rubber anyfurther!!! Eek So, as I said above-------Rubber would've been the rage in the 17th century! Why, because rubber wasn't invented till the 1820's+! Cool
I've been eying a Panerai and trying to resist recently... I have a 40mm breitling (aerospace) now and am curious if anyone here has small wrists (6.5cm on a big day...) with a 44mm watch case? There isn't a dealer locally so before I put too much work in I want to have an idea if I should pursue.
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Originally posted by GRWino:
I've been eying a Panerai and trying to resist recently... I have a 40mm breitling (aerospace) now and am curious if anyone here has small wrists (6.5cm on a big day...) with a 44mm watch case? There isn't a dealer locally so before I put too much work in I want to have an idea if I should pursue.


I do not have a small wrist, but I'm a fan of Panerai and had excellent luck with the watch.
I am someone who doesnt wear jewlery, not even my wedding band (another story), mostly because I do surgery and am afraid I will lose it or forget it etc....but I am looking at watches, basic stuff, nothing super fancy. I have a small wrist and was wondering if anyone had experience with TAG? I like the look of a few of there watches? Good, Bad, Indifferent?
Like you, marcb, I'm not a wearer of jewelry. A watch, however, is a different animal altogether. I admit to being a big admirer of a truely well made watch. Fifteen years ago I was shopping for a nice looking, very well made, watch that I could wear often and not spend an absolute fortune on. I walked into a local fine watch retailer in Montreal intending to purchase a Breitling. The owner talked me into a TAG. I've never regretted it and it has been my 'daily' watch since the day I purchased it. Only time I had an issue, I wrote TAG about it. The addressed the issue immediately. They stand behind their product. I've nothing but good to say about them. A lot of bang for the buck, IMO.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by marcb7:
I am someone who doesnt wear jewlery...I do surgery and am afraid I will lose it or forget it etc...

Big Grin Try to explain that to a patient.



Thanks for the info! Luckily I deal with small area's Wink
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by marcb7:
I am someone who doesnt wear jewlery, not even my wedding band (another story), mostly because I do surgery and am afraid I will lose it or forget it etc....but I am looking at watches, basic stuff, nothing super fancy. I have a small wrist and was wondering if anyone had experience with TAG? I like the look of a few of there watches? Good, Bad, Indifferent?


TAG is a solid choice.

Which model are you looking at?


Any of the square shaped models...I do like the "golf" one, very basic and not terribly fancy.
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Originally posted by marcb7:

TAG is a solid choice.

Which model are you looking at?

Any of the square shaped models...I do like the "golf" one, very basic and not terribly fancy.




Excellent.

I have an IWC Da Vinci which is a rectangle with a simple leather band I get a lot of comments on.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by marcb7:

TAG is a solid choice.

Which model are you looking at?

Any of the square shaped models...I do like the "golf" one, very basic and not terribly fancy.




Excellent.

I have an IWC Da Vinci which is a rectangle with a simple leather band I get a lot of comments on.


Yes, that is a lovely watch. I like the round styles but think, maybe, the square shape may look a little better on my small wrist. I also like a leather or rubber band personally
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Originally posted by marcb7:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by marcb7:

TAG is a solid choice.

Which model are you looking at?

Any of the square shaped models...I do like the "golf" one, very basic and not terribly fancy.




Excellent.

I have an IWC Da Vinci which is a rectangle with a simple leather band I get a lot of comments on.


Yes, that is a lovely watch. I like the round styles but think, maybe, the square shape may look a little better on my small wrist. I also like a leather or rubber band personally


I have too many watches. I'm going to trade the Da Vinci to KSC02. Wink
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Yes, that is a lovely watch. I like the round styles but think, maybe, the square shape may look a little better on my small wrist. I also like a leather or rubber band personally


I have too many watches. I'm going to trade the Da Vinci to KSC02. Wink

Funny...I just stumbled across this last posting.

So....what about that Da Vinci? Cool Razz
Did I miss seeing this when you were up last?
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Yes, that is a lovely watch. I like the round styles but think, maybe, the square shape may look a little better on my small wrist. I also like a leather or rubber band personally


I have too many watches. I'm going to trade the Da Vinci to KSC02. Wink

Funny...I just stumbled across this last posting.

So....what about that Da Vinci? Cool Razz
Did I miss seeing this when you were up last?


I wore the IWC Da Vinci to Chicago. You made a comment on it, which is why I was talking about trading it to you. Wink
I have 3 IWC/Schaffhausen, circa 1930's, that I inherited from my dad (as well as a Doxa and an Ancre, both gold). They're the wind-up kind, with about 36 hrs/wind. I've never had them cleaned or serviced, and they still run surprisingly accurately for watches of this age. I wear them occasionally just because they remind me of my father.

I have a few newer watches of my own that I bought over the years; my favorite is 1986 Omega Seamaster Titanium, which is extremely lightweight and comfortable. I've always preferred thinner and lighter watches, I think.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
D gave me a Hamilton Jazzmaster Cushion for Christmas.

This watch was entirely off my radar and I love it. I've truly learned a lot from her value system.


Excellent...what type of band? (leather, metal, skin?)

It was displayed with a brown leather (alligator pattern) band (as shown in the link) but D insisted they change it for the same in black. With the black face, I like her choice.
Ok guys/gals...Im thinking of getting the TAG Carrera Automatic, brown leather strap with the silver/white face...thoughts? Anyone have this watch? Problems?

I really would like a IWC, the Davinci to be specific, brown face, but the cost is a little bit more than I can convince my better half to spend
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Ok guys/gals...Im thinking of getting the TAG Carrera Automatic, brown leather strap with the silver/white face...thoughts? Anyone have this watch? Problems?

I really would like a IWC, the Davinci to be specific, brown face, but the cost is a little bit more than I can convince my better half to spend

Found a picture of the TAG online; I think it is very nice looking, cannot tell you more than that.
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Hope this works..


http://www.authenticwatches.com/wv211afc6181.html

Computers and me dont agree...


Excellent option...and the red/brown is the new black, which I love. Cool

I have a MONTBLANC with this color band, and I like it for a change of pace.

I love my IWC Da Vinci ( black band) but think your choice is excellent.

I also have a Tag, and never a problem, other than failing to have the gaskets changed out. Red Face

Wearing my Omega Seamaster today for casual Friday, but that belongs in a different thread! Big Grin
Thanks W+A, some fine watches you have there. This will be my universal/every day watch. Its simple but elegant in my opinion, part of which matches my personality...simple that is!

That brings me to another question as jewlery/watches are not something I dabble in very much...you eluded to changing gaskets...is maintenance a must on these type of watches...and is it costly?
A lovely watch marcb7. I like the clean lines, it's hard for me to see how thick it is from the picture. I'm an Omega man, but I assume the maintenance is similar for TAG. The suggestion is to send it in for a tune up every 4 years I believe. It's not cheap ~$300 IIRC. I'm at about 6 years on my Seamaster James Bond model and haven't had it serviced yet, but will at some point as I my son (4 yrs) has already called dibs on it when he turns 21. No issues and mine never comes off when in the ocean or pool.
1905 18K 56mm Patek pocket watch (bought at auction).
1929 SS Elgin pocket watch (a beautiful bday present from my gf).
Both still keep their time beautifully.

She has a Cartier Santos 100 Carbon edition.

One of these days, when I sell my interest in the company, I will buy a Harry Winston Opus 11.
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Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker:
1905 18K 56mm Patek pocket watch (bought at auction).
1929 SS Elgin pocket watch (a beautiful bday present from my gf).
Both still keep their time beautifully.

She has a Cartier Santos 100 Carbon edition.

One of these days, when I sell my interest in the company, I will buy a Harry Winston Opus 11.


i absolutely love the patek pocket watches. talk about elegance in a time piece, alas one I don't have enough disposable income to purchase . maybe when I sell enough tea ;-)
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Originally posted by g-man:
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Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker:
1905 18K 56mm Patek pocket watch (bought at auction).
1929 SS Elgin pocket watch (a beautiful bday present from my gf).
Both still keep their time beautifully.

She has a Cartier Santos 100 Carbon edition.

One of these days, when I sell my interest in the company, I will buy a Harry Winston Opus 11.


i absolutely love the patek pocket watches. talk about elegance in a time piece, alas one I don't have enough disposable income to purchase . maybe when I sell enough tea ;-)

To be honest, I have gravitated towards the pocket watch because the market for them at the time of purchase was depressed. There was no way I could have purchased a Patek wristwatch in that condition, that size and with that provenance for what I was able to get the pocket watch for. I bought at auction in HK and I was only competing with one other bidder... Compared to the vintage Patek wristwatches which had multiple bidders and were quickly over estimate. It's closer than you realize... Keep selling that tea!
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Originally posted by marcb7:
http://www.omegawatches.com/ge...meter/23113422102001

I really like this Omega too...have never really looked at these watches before. No idea the price or the size...I have a small wrist so its a challenge.


Wow that's a beauty. Don't know the price either, but TAG and Omega run in the same general pricing circles. There are plenty of online sites that should give you ballpark pricing for most any watch you are interested in. My suggestion is to ensure you are buying from an authorized retailer and get all the authentic paperwork etc.
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Thanks W+A, some fine watches you have there. This will be my universal/every day watch. Its simple but elegant in my opinion, part of which matches my personality...simple that is!

That brings me to another question as jewlery/watches are not something I dabble in very much...you eluded to changing gaskets...is maintenance a must on these type of watches...and is it costly?



marcb7, I have too many watches really, but whatever. I have a friend wanting my Panerai, so I may have one less soon. Wink

I was swimming a few years ago and noticed my TAG was fogging up. I had not had it serviced, and found out the gaskets were not tight anymore, thus the fogging issue.

Expensive lesson. Frown

I like Omega more than TAG for some reason, but both are solid, and like both of your choices a lot!
Nice watches you're looking at marcb.

I've had a TAG since 1987. Had it serviced twice during that time. I've done nothing more than treat it respectfully and send it in when it stops (as others, this then results in changing all the seals, etc. A thorough general cleaning (approx $400). Never had an issue with it but once within its' first couple of years and TAG resolved the issue without issue and without cost. I've nothing but positive experiences with them. My other watch is a Hamilton that D gave me last Xmas and I've tended to wear that most often these days. Larger size (which I like) and great for casual/business.

Enjoy your watch. I'm not a fan of ANY type of jewelery (rings, necklace, etc) on my body. But a watch...that's different!
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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
This is an informative thread. Thanks to all posters.

I am not particularly into watches - just an old Movado that I have had since law school graduation in the 90s (from FKG's parents) and a cheap digital watch for skiing, traveling and outdoor activities.

I used to have a Movado. The infamous gold color band and body, black face devoid of anything but the gold hands. Had it a few years until one day I lifted my wrist to see the time and saw the hour hand literally just fall to the bottom of the crystal.

Warranted or not, I've never given even a passing glance at a Movado since.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
This is an informative thread. Thanks to all posters.

I am not particularly into watches - just an old Movado that I have had since law school graduation in the 90s (from FKG's parents) and a cheap digital watch for skiing, traveling and outdoor activities.

I used to have a Movado. The infamous gold color band and body, black face devoid of anything but the gold hands. Had it a few years until one day I lifted my wrist to see the time and saw the hour hand literally just fall to the bottom of the crystal.

Warranted or not, I've never given even a passing glance at a Movado since.


I have that one - silver and gold band. Had it over 14 years, other than battery replacement, no issue. Worn daily
For me:
Rolex Daytona
Patek-Phillipe Calatrava (very thin)
Cartier Roadster chronograph (black-face)
Chaumet chronograph (black-face)
Timex Ironman (for work)

Next on the wish list: Panerai!

Wife wears a Cartier Roadster (white-face) or
Franck Muller Long Island (gorgeous)
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Originally posted by Wine doc:
For me:
Rolex Daytona
Patek-Phillipe Calatrava (very thin)
Cartier Roadster chronograph (black-face)
Chaumet chronograph (black-face)
Timex Ironman (for work)

Next on the wish list: Panerai!

Wonderful list of timepieces!

Which Panerai you thinking about?

Wife wears a Cartier Roadster (white-face) or
Franck Muller Long Island (gorgeous)
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Originally posted by marcb7:
Yeah Thanks!

Have any of you purchased from any online sites that are trust worthy? If so, how does warranty, service etc work?


If you buy from an "authorized" dealer they generally have to advertise the watch at the "list price". If you contact them they will give you a price break, but less likely on a limited edition piece. Also buying from an authorized dealer ensures your watch is covered by the maker.

With that said there are other retailers that are not "authorized" that will offer their own warranty. They also advertise the watches at a discount. If they are reputable then comes down to choice. The only problem is if that retailer goes out of business, so does your warranty.
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Originally posted by wine+art:

I was swimming a few years ago and noticed my TAG was fogging up. I had not had it serviced, and found out the gaskets were not tight anymore, thus the fogging issue.

Expensive lesson. Frown


I had the same experience while swimming with one of my TAG's about a year ago. Though I recall having the gasket replaced not being all that pricey.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wine doc:

Next on the wish list: Panerai!

Wonderful list of timepieces!

Which Panerai you thinking about?
QUOTE]


I would like one that is simple and clean. Luminor or Luminor Marina models are very attractive.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by Jcocktosten:
This is an informative thread. Thanks to all posters.

I am not particularly into watches - just an old Movado that I have had since law school graduation in the 90s (from FKG's parents) and a cheap digital watch for skiing, traveling and outdoor activities.

I used to have a Movado. The infamous gold color band and body, black face devoid of anything but the gold hands. Had it a few years until one day I lifted my wrist to see the time and saw the hour hand literally just fall to the bottom of the crystal.

Warranted or not, I've never given even a passing glance at a Movado since.



I bought my wife the black Movado Museum for her birthday about 20 years ago. Other than a couple of straps that wore out, it's performed flawlessly (it has been serviced a couple of times as well). To my eye, it is still one of the most elegant of watches.

My favorite watch is an Omega Seamaster Titanium, circa 1986. I've had my eye on a gold Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra mid-size for a while now, but there always seems to be something other than a watch that I want more.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
I'm not a fan of ANY type of jewelery (rings, necklace, etc) on my body. But a watch...that's different!

+1. I actually feel naked when I walk out the door without a watch.

I have two watches that were given to me as college graduation gifts over twenty years ago - Cartier Tank and a Rolex Tudor (entry level watch that isn't sold in the US). Both are completely different but have classic looks. The Cartier has a leather strap with a gold face while the Tudor is mostly stainless steel with touches of gold. The leather strap is a bit pricey to replace ($100?) so I try not to wear the watch too often in the summer when I perspire more easily. I think I've serviced them every 7-10 years. It's not cheap so I try to minimize the exposure to moisture and dust.
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
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Originally posted by KSC02:
I'm not a fan of ANY type of jewelery (rings, necklace, etc) on my body. But a watch...that's different!

+1. I actually feel naked when I walk out the door without a watch.

I have two watches that were given to me as college graduation gifts over twenty years ago - Cartier Tank and a Rolex Tudor (entry level watch that isn't sold in the US). Both are completely different but have classic looks. The Cartier has a leather strap with a gold face while the Tudor is mostly stainless steel with touches of gold. The leather strap is a bit pricey to replace ($100?) so I try not to wear the watch too often in the summer when I perspire more easily. I think I've serviced them every 7-10 years. It's not cheap so I try to minimize the exposure to moisture and dust.


DD, let me understand this. You will drop a $100+++ on a wine in the blink of an eye, but concerned you need to replace a leather band every 5-10 years on a Cartier Tank. Razz Wink
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Originally posted by wine+art:
DD, let me understand this. You will drop a $100+++ on a wine in the blink of an eye, but concerned you need to replace a leather band every 5-10 years on a Cartier Tank. Razz Wink
You're right. Now that you put it that way. Smile
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Originally posted by DoubleD:
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Originally posted by g-man:
you think 7-10 years is long, wait till you hear about how long it took for him to think about renovating his bathroom when he needed it.
wise guy Smile It took me three girlfriends to realize that I needed a remodel.


the girlfriend or the house? ;-)

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