Fine Watches

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Originally posted by Vinaigre:
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Originally posted by wine+art:

Congratulations! Which PAM?

The two that seem to get a lot of support on watch forums are, Holben’s for canvas and Brandy Straps for sailcloth.

I have bought numerous leather straps from both DONS in Canada and Toshi in the U.K. for both of my Panerai watches. I also have a strap made from Metta Catherina leather thanks to Rob.


Got the PAM00577 Radiomir 1940
Love the strap it came with, just want a second one to wear in summer or water activities.

Thoughts about the ABP site mentioned in this thread ?


Love the watch. Congrats again.

ABP has a great reputation for leather straps. I don’t know anything about their canvas but can’t imagine they would not be excellent as well.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Vinaigre:
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Originally posted by wine+art:

Congratulations! Which PAM?

The two that seem to get a lot of support on watch forums are, Holben’s for canvas and Brandy Straps for sailcloth.

I have bought numerous leather straps from both DONS in Canada and Toshi in the U.K. for both of my Panerai watches. I also have a strap made from Metta Catherina leather thanks to Rob.


Got the PAM00577 Radiomir 1940
Love the strap it came with, just want a second one to wear in summer or water activities.

Thoughts about the ABP site mentioned in this thread ?


Love the watch. Congrats again.

ABP has a great reputation for leather straps. I don’t know anything about their canvas but can’t imagine they would not be excellent as well.


Agree with w+a. It's the only place my wife will get straps for her PAM111 from. They do stellar leather straps but have no idea about other fabrics. If you do get a leather one, do a custom bespoke one and not one of their new ready made. The bespoke is much more special for very little extra.

Also look at their new small leather goods line. Phenomenal quality for exceptionally cheap. I"ve talked a lot to the owner and these prices are for the short term while they ramp up and get comfortable with the space.
A few weeks ago I received a very special timepiece from my dad. I am the 4th person to have the watch. It was bought in 1945 by my great grandfather. The only condition as a result of this generous gift is to keep it in good condition and give it to my nephew when I become an old man. It is a Vacheron Constantin gold watch. It is on the small side but that is ok since it is a true family heirloom. I hope to wear it occasionally for many years to come. Thanks Dad.

IW
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Originally posted by Italian Wino:
A few weeks ago I received a very special timepiece from my dad. I am the 4th person to have the watch. It was bought in 1945 by my great grandfather. The only condition as a result of this generous gift is to keep it in good condition and give it to my nephew when I become an old man. It is a Vacheron Constantin gold watch. It is on the small side but that is ok since it is a true family heirloom. I hope to wear it occasionally for many years to come. Thanks Dad.

IW


IW, I know you are excited and rightfully so. I could tell when we were looking at the watches I have in Santa Fe together you were hopeful it would be yours soon.

Remember, my guy in Santa Fe will work on the piece for you.
I request aid from the watch aficionados.

My friend is interested in purchasing one of the original Dirty Dozen military watches made in WW2. Many of the originals were repaired or refurbished with cheap parts so he's looking for a reputable dealer to buy one.

Any help or recommendations?
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Originally posted by Danyull:
I request aid from the watch aficionados.

My friend is interested in purchasing one of the original Dirty Dozen military watches made in WW2. Many of the originals were repaired or refurbished with cheap parts so he's looking for a reputable dealer to buy one.

Any help or recommendations?


Not my area of expertise.

I have seen an IWC and Eterna at auction recently, but didn’t research much about them. I do know the R.E.M.E. repaired so many without any regard to manufacturer so many have parts interchanged from different producers as standard protocol. The goal was just to get them back working.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by Danyull:
I request aid from the watch aficionados.

My friend is interested in purchasing one of the original Dirty Dozen military watches made in WW2. Many of the originals were repaired or refurbished with cheap parts so he's looking for a reputable dealer to buy one.

Any help or recommendations?


Not my area of expertise.

I have seen an IWC and Eterna at auction recently, but didn’t research much about them. I do know the R.E.M.E. repaired so many without any regard to manufacturer so many have parts interchanged from different producers as standard protocol. The goal was just to get them back working.


Yes that is spot on which is why he's looking for a good dealer or broker that would help him find something in good condition. I think he's primarily looking for an Omega. Any suggestions on where to look?
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Agree with w+a. It's the only place my wife will get straps for her PAM111 from. They do stellar leather straps but have no idea about other fabrics. If you do get a leather one, do a custom bespoke one and not one of their new ready made. The bespoke is much more special for very little extra.


Got my strap fro APB, went for a custom gray sharkskin.
Damn I love the look and the finish is great !

Ordering and shipping went smoothly too !!
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Originally posted by Vinaigre:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Agree with w+a. It's the only place my wife will get straps for her PAM111 from. They do stellar leather straps but have no idea about other fabrics. If you do get a leather one, do a custom bespoke one and not one of their new ready made. The bespoke is much more special for very little extra.


Got my strap fro APB, went for a custom gray sharkskin.
Damn I love the look and the finish is great !

Ordering and shipping went smoothly too !!


Happy to hear you love the strap and combo.

One thing about Panerai, multiple straps are just part of ownership! I until recently owned 3 ( now 2) Panerai watches and had 11 straps.

Enjoy your new watch and hope to see you again soon.
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Originally posted by Vinaigre:
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
Agree with w+a. It's the only place my wife will get straps for her PAM111 from. They do stellar leather straps but have no idea about other fabrics. If you do get a leather one, do a custom bespoke one and not one of their new ready made. The bespoke is much more special for very little extra.


Got my strap fro APB, went for a custom gray sharkskin.
Damn I love the look and the finish is great !

Ordering and shipping went smoothly too !!


Glad to hear!!
Anybody have any knowledge about Tourbillon watches by a local Toronto watchmaker named Scott Wilk? I stopped at his booth at the One of a Kind show and saw a beautiful limited edition (30) 41mm GMT Tourbillon for a very good price. He uses both Swiss and Chinese movements and his reviews are scarce but favourable. I would like to pull the trigger but want to do my due diligence. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally posted by DoktaP:
Anybody have any knowledge about Tourbillon watches by a local Toronto watchmaker named Scott Wilk? I stopped at his booth at the One of a Kind show and saw a beautiful limited edition (30) 41mm GMT Tourbillon for a very good price. He uses both Swiss and Chinese movements and his reviews are scarce but favourable. I would like to pull the trigger but want to do my due diligence. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Is that the Seagull tourbillon movement?

Do you know the price?
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Originally posted by Danyull:
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Originally posted by DoktaP:
Anybody have any knowledge about Tourbillon watches by a local Toronto watchmaker named Scott Wilk? I stopped at his booth at the One of a Kind show and saw a beautiful limited edition (30) 41mm GMT Tourbillon for a very good price. He uses both Swiss and Chinese movements and his reviews are scarce but favourable. I would like to pull the trigger but want to do my due diligence. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Is that the Seagull tourbillon movement?

Do you know the price?


Hangzhou tourbillon movement

< 2k USD
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Originally posted by DoktaP:
Anybody have any knowledge about Tourbillon watches by a local Toronto watchmaker named Scott Wilk? I stopped at his booth at the One of a Kind show and saw a beautiful limited edition (30) 41mm GMT Tourbillon for a very good price. He uses both Swiss and Chinese movements and his reviews are scarce but favourable. I would like to pull the trigger but want to do my due diligence. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Dok, I emailed you something to read.
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Originally posted by wine+art:
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Originally posted by DoktaP:
Anybody have any knowledge about Tourbillon watches by a local Toronto watchmaker named Scott Wilk? I stopped at his booth at the One of a Kind show and saw a beautiful limited edition (30) 41mm GMT Tourbillon for a very good price. He uses both Swiss and Chinese movements and his reviews are scarce but favourable. I would like to pull the trigger but want to do my due diligence. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.


Dok, I emailed you something to read.


Thanks bro. I have contacted the watch maker and await his response. I have a few questions for Scott before buying. It felt great on my wrist and the 44mm was just too big for my liking.

I am still looking for that "fine" (or modestly so) watch.  In other words, something in my price range (under $3000) and "elegant."  The latter, of course is completely subjective.  I was looking at Junghans.  Now, I'm leaning heavily towards Baume and Mercier.  There are a couple of watches I like the looks of: Classima (10332) and Clifton (10436).  Does anyone have any experience with this watchmaker? 

I don't have any experience with Baume and Mercier so no help on that front. Have you considered the Omega DeVille collection? With a bit of research you can find a pre-owned version with their co-axial movement for $3k or so. Very similar look to the Classima you referenced. 

Haggis, of those two choices, the Clifton 10436 would be my pick without question. It has a COSC certified in-house movement. 

The 10332 appears to have a Stella movement. I doubt B&M is getting any ETA movements since they are owned by Richemont. Regardless, the COSC certification in the 10436 speaks very well. 

wineart 2 posted:

Haggis, predictive text took over and I can’t find the edit button on this cluster of a new site. 

Sellita is the movement I think is in the 10332. 

Thank you!  This is enormously helpful!  I know next to nothing about these various movements, so I greatly appreciate your expertise and advice.  Much obliged!  I am getting closer....

Winetarelli, they will have a push-to-set crown which is interesting.

Production will also be under 400 per model per year, so very limited. I think they have a German look overall. I own three different German brands and have been looking/debating about AL&S all year. 

wineart 2 posted:

Winetarelli, they will have a push-to-set crown which is interesting.

Production will also be under 400 per model per year, so very limited. I think they have a German look overall. I own three different German brands and have been looking/debating about AL&S all year. 

What is interesting to me is that I came about this, not because of watches I will never own, but because of cameras I will never own.  (Upcoming Q2 might change that, depending upon various factors — but chances are above 50% I won’t pull the trigger, depending.)  FWIW:  I’m in love with the current AL&S  datograph in rose gold with black face, but I cannot justify wearing a really nice car on my wrist even for that wonderful piece. But I do love AL&S as a spectator. 

Haggis, good morning.

If you are still looking, you might take a look at the Christopher Ward 595. It appears to be in the style you are looking at. The ETA hand wound movement is solid and CW is a customer driven firm. The 595 reference is the thickness on the watch, 5.95mm which is very thin.

I own a CW sport watch that while I rarely wear, it has outperformed its cost without debate.

Regards.

wineart 2 posted:

Haggis, good morning.

If you are still looking, you might take a look at the Christopher Ward 595. It appears to be in the style you are looking at. The ETA hand wound movement is solid and CW is a customer driven firm. The 595 reference is the thickness on the watch, 5.95mm which is very thin.

I own a CW sport watch that while I rarely wear, it has outperformed its cost without debate.

Regards.

Hi, WA2:  oh, I like that!  I like thin watches and I like this style.  Might forgo the Junghans for this. 

Make sure you wear your Panerai the next time you are in Newport Beach! 

It is nuts. I noticed several from our table at dinner. After dinner we went to the outdoor area for drinks and to enjoy the weather. It was like a Panerai watch club plus Ferragamo shoes and belt required club. 

I then took a quick Uber back to my hotel. Panerai watches everywhere. Who knew... 

mangiare posted:

excuse my ignorance but what does the dial in the top left do? 

 

Power reserve. 

Then separate timezones on each dial really with separate movements that are harmonically linked to make them more accurate. It's really a marvel. And so is the cost. Eye watering.   

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