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I'm not much of a fan of the genre anymore, but I did like some stuff in the late 80's and early 90's. I figured I would sneak this in and see what others here liked before Board-O comes back and reminds us all that it isn't music. Razz

Public Enemy - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
Ice Cube - Death Certificate
NWA - Straight Outta Compton
Ice-T - Original Gangster
Dr. Dre Featuring Snoop Dogg - The Chronic

Aside from the violent, misogynistic and sometimes racist content of a lot of the lyrics, I felt that these albums all did a good job of telling stories. One can argue that the lyrical content makes the music garbage, but if that were the case than a lot of well-regarded books, films, etc. would be slagged off as well based on what some deem offensive.

For those who were/are fans, please chime in.
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In General, even Board-O likes this genre better than I do, BUT, even I have some positive memories from High School and growing up, either due to finding it funny or just remember it being part of the culture at the time. Two stand out to me for those reasons (not necessarily because I find them good):

2 Live Crew - The 2 Live Crew Is What We Are
Beastie Boys - Licensed to Ill
I listen to more Rap/Hip-Hop than any other type of music and I love how it has evolved over the years. I obviously grew up on the west coast but I actually prefer the east coast style from the likes of A Tribe Called Quest, De la Soul to more recent artists like Talib Kweli, Mos def and the Roots. I think Jay-Z is one of the greatest artists of all time and his The Black Album is the best of the best.
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Originally posted by GlennK:
I think Jay-Z is one of the greatest artists of all time and his The Black Album is the best of the best.


WOW. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions, but I've never been impressed with Jay-Z as an artist. I guess while I'm asking, do you mean in his genre or across all modern music?
I'm curious where would you rank Biggie, Pac, Dre and Cube in relation to Jay-Z from an artistic perspective? Personally I think JayZ is a better producer/entrepreneur type person than he is/was an artist.
To me, JayZ picked up the flag when the best of them were killed off in the 90s.
I, like GlennK, grew up on the west coast. I grew up listening to Dre, Snoop, Ice Cube, and even E-40 (yay area!!). My problem with rap/hip hop is that there just isn't the depth to an album. I love certain songs, but never the whole album. Way too much filler.

That being said, I'd say my favorite album is Hello Nasty by the Beastie Boys. But if I had to name my favorite rappers/bands, I'd have to say listening to the Wu Tang Clan will get me fired up the most (the song Triumph has to be my favorite rap song of all time). Beyond them, I think Kanye (though I extremely dislike his persona), Eminem, and Jay Z are the best rappers out there. J-5 also needs a shout out, as I think they was the best hip hop band out there, along with the Roots.
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
I listen to more Rap/Hip-Hop than any other type of music and I love how it has evolved over the years. I obviously grew up on the west coast.

Why is that obvious? Confused

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I think Jay-Z is one of the greatest artists of all time...

Eek
Yeah, I guess its not obvious. Bad word choice.
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Originally posted by snipes:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
I think Jay-Z is one of the greatest artists of all time and his The Black Album is the best of the best.


WOW. Everyone is certainly entitled to their opinions, but I've never been impressed with Jay-Z as an artist. I guess while I'm asking, do you mean in his genre or across all modern music?
I'm curious where would you rank Biggie, Pac, Dre and Cube in relation to Jay-Z from an artistic perspective? Personally I think JayZ is a better producer/entrepreneur type person than he is/was an artist.
To me, JayZ picked up the flag when the best of them were killed off in the 90s.
I mean across all music and I would rank him comfortably over Biggie, pac, dre and cube. Was never much of a fan of cube and while I liked dre (he lived 2 streets over from me when I grew up) I was just more of an east coast guy. I like biggie and pac, but don't think they have the same depth of Jay.
Naughty by Nature, their eponymous 1991 release with OPP and Everything's Gonna Be Alright

Agree with Tone Loc's Loced After dark.

Does Rage Against The Machine count? I like all of theirs. (Can't believe it's 20 years ago!)

The Chronic has already been mentioned, as was Straight Outta Compton.

I liked Us3's Cantaloop.

I am going to include some trip hop - so Morcheeba and Massive Attack get a tangential inclusion!

The best single rap tune of all time is Tupac and Dre's "California Love." No arguing!
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Originally posted by Vino Bevo:
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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:
Never a fan of the genre (different strokes). I do like a few Beastie Boys songs.


+1 - I have a couple early Beastie songs on my playlist, but beyond that while I respect it as a genre I'm not a fan.


+3
Though I do like the Roots.

Now, as someone mentioned Morcheeba, that I can get into!

I guess when you guys were listening to NWA, Ice-T etc. I was listening to the NOFX and the Pixies...
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Originally posted by spo:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
I think Jay-Z is one of the greatest artists of all time and his The Black Album is the best of the best.


I do think you are cool, GlennK, but this is the worst post I have seen on the forum yet. Razz


Spit It took balls to say it, GlennK, but it still was a very polarizing claim Confused
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders
De La Soul - Stakes is High
WU - 36 Chambers
Gang Starr - Hard to Earn
Biggie - Ready to Die
MF DOOM - Madvillany
Mobb Deep - the infamous
Black Moon - Enta Da Stage
The Roots - Do you want more!?!?!
Nas - Illmatic
Outkast - Aquemini
Pharcyde - Bizarre Ride II


that said - my favourites to this day are still old mix tapes dubbed off the CKLN power moves show....
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Originally posted by Rob_Sutherland:
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Originally posted by Vino Bevo:
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Originally posted by Red guy in a blue state:
Never a fan of the genre (different strokes). I do like a few Beastie Boys songs.


+1 - I have a couple early Beastie songs on my playlist, but beyond that while I respect it as a genre I'm not a fan.


+3
Though I do like the Roots.

Now, as someone mentioned Morcheeba, that I can get into!

I guess when you guys were listening to NWA, Ice-T etc. I was listening to the NOFX and the Pixies...


The Pixies...now there's a band.
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Originally posted by KSC02:
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Originally posted by spo:
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Originally posted by GlennK:
I think Jay-Z is one of the greatest artists of all time and his The Black Album is the best of the best.


I do think you are cool, GlennK, but this is the worst post I have seen on the forum yet. Razz


Spit It took balls to say it, GlennK, but it still was a very polarizing claim Confused
Haha. It wasn't balls, just how I feel. I know it's not the opinion of the majority and I'm more than fine with that. Wink
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Originally posted by spo:

I especially hated the skits.



Skits can be a tough listen. I'm trying to think of one (one!) with staying power.

Prince has been too fond of skits, too.

_

As an aside, one of the funniest things about the internets is seen on a thread like this one. It starts out with a "What's you favorite..." thread and then draws in then draws in the whines of "I don't like any" or "None ya have my exquisite taste."

It gives me a chuckle every time. I plead guilty to having done it, too.

Human nature!

You could start a thread about people's favorite type of steak and you'd be guaranteed some "I hate meat" and "None of you know steak like I do" proclamations along the way.
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Originally posted by vinoevelo:
A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders


You prefer this over the Low End Theory or People's Instinctive Travels? I've always thought this was Tribe's 3rd greatest album.

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Originally posted by vinoevelo:

Black Moon - Enta Da Stage


Can't believe I forgot this one. Excellent call!
honestly - splitting hairs for any of those tribe albums. they've never left regular rotation. same goes for most of the de la albums up to stakes.

AML had a bunch in there i should've added too - that Deltron 3030 might be one of the most under appreciated hip hop albums ever done and may have been the first dan the automator exposure i got pre-handsome boy modelling school.

re: black moon- still got an old nervous records t shirt around somewhere

i think i should've added common sense (pre 'common' - resurrection & maybe Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth's 'Mecca & The Soul Brother'
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Originally posted by vinoevelo:
honestly - splitting hairs for any of those tribe albums. they've never left regular rotation. same goes for most of the de la albums up to stakes.

i think i should've added common sense pre 'common' - resurrection & maybe Pete Rock & C.L. Smooth's 'Mecca & The Soul Brother'


Love these too. Still have Mecca and the Sould Brother and the Main Ingredient playing regularly.

You have excellent taste!
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Originally posted by Pinotlvr:
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Originally posted by The Old Man:
Now some of you know how I feel when people say they think Journey or Iron Maiden are great bands. Big Grin


Since Iron Maiden is the greatest band ever...it just proves you are an old fart Big Grin Big Grin ....cause they are almost 60 themselves Eek

I'm a proud old fart who's been around long enough to know Molly Hatchet sucked too!
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
I'll post mine after wine+art and Board-O post theirs.

PH


Big Grin

I do have a few on my playlist, thank you very much. Razz

I just find this genre of music to be too much like wine from Australia, it makes me gag. Wink You just have to plow through too much s$it to find an occasional gem, and it is just not worth my time.

When I hear one I like, or a friend sends me something I enjoy, (like wine outliers) I add to my playlist.
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Originally posted by g-man:
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Originally posted by TPEwinedrinker:
1. Ready to Die
2. Ready to Die
3. Ready to Die
4. Ready to Die
5. Ready to Die
6. Fugees- The Score
7. Kanye- College Dropout
8. Snoop- Doggystyle
9. DMX- It's Dark and Hell is Hot
10. Rakim- 18th Letter
11. Pharcyde- labcabincalifornia


what!

any list without wutang is worthless

Wu-Tang's entire body of work is top 10 worthy, but there is not a single album individually that can be considered top 10 in my opinion.
I know I'm resurrecting this thread from the depths, but I can't believe there wasn't a single mention of arguably the greatest album in hip hop history:

"Paid in Full" - Eric B & Rakim

Most everyone in the industry of note from hip hop's "Golden Age" will cite this album as the inflection point that expanded their perception of the art of rhyming as well as production. And if you think about who preceded Eric B & Rakim, it's easy to see that "Paid in Full" was the jumpoff point for styles and rhythms to evolve.

To use a football analogy, they were the Bill Walsh of hip hop & rap, spawning many greats who took the genre into new spaces.
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Originally posted by The Cabernet of Doctor Caligari:
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Originally posted by spo:

I especially hated the skits.



Skits can be a tough listen. I'm trying to think of one (one!) with staying power.



C'mon! Most of us can recite at least a couple of lines from the "$20 Sack Pyramid" skit off of "The Chronic". Fill in the next line after:


"Uhhh, uhhh, uhhh......Halle Berry. Uhhh, En Vogue."

Wink
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Originally posted by PurpleHaze:
I can honestly say that I would not be able to identify one "song" in this thread if I heard it. This genre just has no appeal for me. Perhaps a generational thing.....

PH


Definitely a generational thing, but I have to admit, you do (or should) feel a bit silly singing/rapping along with some of the (attempt at) language on albums like Ready To Die. The ones I listed though are more fun and less 'colourful'. Esp. if you're white which I may or may not be. Razz
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Originally posted by fusionstorm:
I know I'm resurrecting this thread from the depths, but I can't believe there wasn't a single mention of arguably the greatest album in hip hop history:

"Paid in Full" - Eric B & Rakim

Most everyone in the industry of note from hip hop's "Golden Age" will cite this album as the inflection point that expanded their perception of the art of rhyming as well as production. And if you think about who preceded Eric B & Rakim, it's easy to see that "Paid in Full" was the jumpoff point for styles and rhythms to evolve.

To use a football analogy, they were the Bill Walsh of hip hop & rap, spawning many greats who took the genre into new spaces.

I think you have to be REALLY old school to be in the camp that really appreciates this for what it was...I think that may be why there is no mention of it. I recall many of the same citations for the album back when I was heavy into rap in the 90's, and I bought the CD(!). It never really resonated with me, and think it was probably just a timing issue.

Not sure I chimed in on this thread earlier, but The Low End Theory would probably occupy spost 1-5 for me, similar to what TPE did with Ready to Die. I've gotten rid of nearly all of my CD's, but I hang onto that one (as well as Midnight Maraurders, FWIW) because of how much of an impact it had on me. How I miss the days of Tribe...
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Originally posted by fusionstorm:
I know I'm resurrecting this thread from the depths, but I can't believe there wasn't a single mention of arguably the greatest album in hip hop history:

"Paid in Full" - Eric B & Rakim
A little before my time, but I do have some Eric B & Rakim in the rotation. I can see how they were revolutionary for their time.

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